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Post by CM Tusk on Jan 30, 2022 20:05:57 GMT -5
The 2015 one was the worst booked one of all time and not because Roman won. My problem with last night, is that it gave me those 2015 vibes. Instead of Kane and Big Show literally just dumping people one by one… it was Lesnar. Just picking them up and dropping them over. Even with Drew last. No back and forth, making Drew look strong in defeat. Nope. Missed Claymore, picked up and dumped over. 2015, 2014 and 2022… Top 3 worst Rumbles in recent WWE history. See difference for me is by that point no one wanted to see Show or Kane in ing slacks. It was obvious they were both in there to get so much heat that people would cheer Roman when he beat them but it backfired because it was go away heat. Brock on the other hand is still over and a believable unstoppable monster. It would have been better with with a bigger fight between him and Drew though.
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Post by stratusfaction23 on Jan 30, 2022 20:08:22 GMT -5
The dirtsheets are claiming that Shane was the writer and producer of the men's royal rumble match and he has a lot of heat how everything turned out especially with the boys in the locker room. 👀
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Post by Triple S on Jan 30, 2022 20:08:50 GMT -5
My problem with last night, is that it gave me those 2015 vibes. Instead of Kane and Big Show literally just dumping people one by one… it was Lesnar. Just picking them up and dropping them over. Even with Drew last. No back and forth, making Drew look strong in defeat. Nope. Missed Claymore, picked up and dumped over. 2015, 2014 and 2022… Top 3 worst Rumbles in recent WWE history. See difference for me is by that point no one wanted to see Show or Kane in ing slacks. It was obvious they were both in there to get so much heat that people would cheer Roman when he beat them but it backfired because it was go away heat. Brock on the other hand is still over and a believable unstoppable monster. It would have been better with with a bigger fight between him and Drew though. Then you add Styles being eliminated by Moss, Owens being eliminated by Shane… Almost as if nothing made sense intentionally. Also, lol @ “Kane in ing slacks”
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Post by CM Tusk on Jan 30, 2022 20:12:55 GMT -5
See difference for me is by that point no one wanted to see Show or Kane in ing slacks. It was obvious they were both in there to get so much heat that people would cheer Roman when he beat them but it backfired because it was go away heat. Brock on the other hand is still over and a believable unstoppable monster. It would have been better with with a bigger fight between him and Drew though. Then you add Styles being eliminated by Moss, Owens being eliminated by Shane… Almost as if nothing made sense intentionally. Also, lol @ “Kane in ing slacks” The man looked less ridiculous as a dentist
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Post by Triple S on Jan 30, 2022 20:15:43 GMT -5
Then you add Styles being eliminated by Moss, Owens being eliminated by Shane… Almost as if nothing made sense intentionally. Also, lol @ “Kane in ing slacks” The man looked less ridiculous as a dentist Or a fake Diesel.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jan 30, 2022 20:28:26 GMT -5
Last night’s mens rumble match was pretty bad, but still not the worst one in recent memory for me…
1. 2015 - Absolute dogcrap. We all knew what Vince was doing. And even if he didn’t want Bryan to win, you had other hot acts like Ambrose, Rusev, Wyatt, and Ziggler. But nah, have Kane and Show dump everyone out so Roman looks really, really strong in victory. You also knew things are bad when Roman couldn’t even get a rub via The Rock.
2. 2022 - Just like 2015, we knew who was winning as soon as Brock/Lashley ended. The lack of star power in the WWE was evident, and nobody came out looking good outside of Brock.
3. 2011 - Everyone knew ADR was winning this despite him not being over what so ever. Some of the returns like Booker and Diesel were cool, but 40 entrants was overkill, especially considering we knew who was winning.
2014 was annoying due to Bryan not winning, but it led to an amazing rise for him and a defining moment at WM30. I can’t put that worse than the three above.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Jan 30, 2022 21:23:43 GMT -5
The dirtsheets are claiming that Shane was the writer and producer of the men's royal rumble match and he has a lot of heat how everything turned out especially with the boys in the locker room. 👀 LOL
Shane, I love you, but go home.
You can't save this ship. The holes are too big and you patching them with tar is only adding fuel to the fire.
Just go home.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2022 0:31:23 GMT -5
I was at the show, and I think that makes me abit biased but I didnt hate the show at all. I was just disappointed in the Rumble winners because they easily couldve had two different people win the thing and still set up Ronda/Becky and Roman/Brock through different but obvious means. They hand title shots out, they couldve easily handed them the shots after Elimination Chamber, or damn, let Lesnar run through whoever inside the Chamber to challenge Reigns. Whoever is facing Lashley for the WWE Championship, and Charlotte for the SmackDown Womens Championship couldve used the Rumble victory way more than Ronda/Brock.
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Post by TheSystem 1.5 on Jan 31, 2022 0:36:59 GMT -5
The dirtsheets are claiming that Shane was the writer and producer of the men's royal rumble match and he has a lot of heat how everything turned out especially with the boys in the locker room. 👀 LOL
Shane, I love you, but go home.
You can't save this ship. The holes are too big and you patching them with tar is only adding fuel to the fire.
Just go home.
He didn’t spring for tar. Mother er was trying to use duct tape
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Post by CM Tusk on Jan 31, 2022 1:00:56 GMT -5
Out of everything, I’m most confused by why people didn’t like the finish to Seth vs Roman. It continues the story. Roman let emotions get the best of him. Seth got into his head unlike anyone has been able to. Roman still hasn’t beat Seth when it really matters. Rollins is doing amazing character work. It could be argued he only wants chaos. I’m so excited to see where they go next as we still have months before Mania.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Jan 31, 2022 1:05:00 GMT -5
LOL
Shane, I love you, but go home.
You can't save this ship. The holes are too big and you patching them with tar is only adding fuel to the fire.
Just go home.
He didn’t spring for tar. Mother er was trying to use duct tape Should have used Flex Tape™.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jan 31, 2022 1:19:30 GMT -5
I went into the Royal Rumble with a clear head and wanted to enjoy the event.
What happened was... I watched the entire show and enjoyed the event.
I personally find that once I stop trying to be a booker from home, I enjoy the show a lot more.
Seriously people, who really could have won the Rumble but Brock Lesnar?? The only suitable win would have been if Roman did lose the Universal Title to Seth and came back in the Rumble and won that to get his Wrestlemania main event spot and rematch.
Big E failed as a WWE Champion. He failed so bad they threw him back over to Smackdown out of nowhere as Kofi's tag partner again in New Day.
Owens couldn't win, because WWE doesn't seem to want an "ordinary guy who looks like the casual fan" to be the face of the WWE Title picture.
Styles should have won, and to be eliminated by a joke like Madcap is it?? So dumb. Why not have someone eliminate him which could create a possible feud down the road??
Randy Orton or Riddle winning would be possible if they were putting each of them in a WWE Title picture, but they aren't. They are gonna stick as a tag team clearly.
Brock Lesnar was the only suitable choice to win the Royal Rumble.
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Post by rkmo: 9 Month Warning on Jan 31, 2022 3:09:14 GMT -5
Again, a lack of stars and viable contenders is a them problem, not an us problem. They act completely independent from what anyone says, so all b*tching and moaning about b*tching and moaning is misplaced when directed towards anyone besides Creative and management.
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Post by E N I G M A on Jan 31, 2022 4:30:17 GMT -5
The Rumble is pretty much the only event I watch every year as it tends to be fun whatever the storylines are.
This year however, both rumbles felt sooooo boring and dragged out... The Women's Rumble really showed how thin the current roster is, pretty much all the so-called "Legends" looked so lost in there that the whole match just didn't pick up any steam. The only smart spot was the one with Sonya and Naomi IMO. I don't wanna rant but F the Bellas for preaching no bullying campaigns and then eliminating Liv & Sarah and giving them the L taunt... Some of the stuff in that match just showed in what kind of messy state the WWE currently is.
The Men's Rumble was a bit better but also lost all its steam as soon as AJ was eliminated without any fanfare. And Shane O'mac being in the final 4 in the year of 2022 is just sad... Kofi botching his spot was a better spot than his last (un)predictable spots.
Overall I was mildly entertained, you could see who's winning ALL the matches from a mile away but I still watched to see how they got there.
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Post by hbkjason on Jan 31, 2022 4:55:43 GMT -5
Why the hell were there no NXT guys or girls in the Rumble? Toxic Attraction, Raquel Gonzalez and Dakota Kai should have been in the womans Rumble. It would have also been a good way to showcase Bron Breaker too!
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Post by Liquid Swordsman on Jan 31, 2022 5:37:54 GMT -5
NXT(before the brand change)was every bit of proof that you could create stars on WWE with the right creative. Something that's not really common on their main roster. Too bad they salvaged the NXT brand, character assassinated their superstars Game Of Thrones/Dexter style until they saw no use for them to stay employed.
It's interesting the same type of people here who will defend the Brock/Rhonda decision and take issue with others complaints about lack of stars won't even address the elephant in the room.
If people are complaining about lack of stars during this event, then there's a good reason why.
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Post by shanieomaniac on Jan 31, 2022 8:27:32 GMT -5
NXT(before the brand change)was every bit of proof that you could create stars on WWE with the right creative. Something that's not really common on their main roster. Too bad they salvaged the NXT brand, character assassinated their superstars Game Of Thrones/Dexter style until they saw no use for them to stay employed. It's interesting the same type of people here who will defend the Brock/Rhonda decision and take issue with others complaints about lack of stars won't even address the elephant in the room. If people are complaining about lack of stars during this event, then there's a good reason why. Oh I fully agree with this.
And, really, it's less about defending Brock as the winner and more of "It's the lesser evil"
In my mind the fact that there was this notion of, once they came to the main roster, they had to beat the NXT out of them - that strikes me as having always been the wrong direction to go. Some gimmicks from NXT were ill-fitted to the main roster from day one. Sami Zayn is proof of this. His "Heart and Soul of NXT" meant nothing on the main roster and it wasn't until he reinvented himself properly that he found any success.
But how many people weren't even give that chance? How many people, like the AOP, like SANitY, people that had things that could have been gold on the main roster. When AOP joined with Seth I thought "Oh, this should be interesting, lets see where this goes!" NOTHING HAPPENED. I was so dang excited to see what SANitY could do on the main roster. NOTHING HAPPENED. Time and time again people left NXT with things that would work and Vince either decided "Let's just throw all this away and start over" (and failed), or decided "Never mind, this isn't what I wanted after all" and they just got released.
In all honesty? The fact that Sami even lasted long enough to reinvent himself is a shock to me. He's doing great now but, really, I'm genuinely shocked that he was ever kept around long enough to find his footing on the main roster. Outside of his program with Kevin, and the one after that, and the one after... ok, you get my point. I'm not saying he's bad at all. He's a great wrestler and a joy to watch. But like so many others before him (including Kevin) he isn't "Vince's Type" and the fact that they have both somehow survived the past 2 years and come out smiling is a shocker to me.
But my overall point is that NXT had the potential to make stars. Past Tense. The brand revamp is quite possibly the worst downgrade I have seen this company pull since they tried to bring back ECW on SyFy.
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Post by finnbalor1 on Jan 31, 2022 8:30:08 GMT -5
Why the hell were there no NXT guys or girls in the Rumble? Toxic Attraction, Raquel Gonzalez and Dakota Kai should have been in the womans Rumble. It would have also been a good way to showcase Bron Breaker too! Yeah,I thought for sure we would've at least seen Io,Dakota and LA Knight. Maybe even Raquel,Dunne and Strong too.
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Post by Warriah' on Jan 31, 2022 8:45:49 GMT -5
everyone complains about the same old guys, however wwe has 0 star power in new stars. no one looks like a wrestler, no one acts like a wrestler, so you have to keep going back to the old guys. I watched Brock vs Bobby and they both looked like a million $. Entertaining, and it had a big fight feel, too. Then I watched the rumble and I saw a lot of people in the rumble i'd never heard of and they were almost all puny, dressed similarly, look similar, all doing the same weird thigh slaps. It's not just on the WWE failing to make new stars. The kinds of people interested in becoming wrestlers now just don't have the ability, appearance or charisma to become stars to begin with.
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Post by Its Tiffy Time on Jan 31, 2022 8:50:14 GMT -5
I went into the Royal Rumble with a clear head and wanted to enjoy the event. What happened was... I watched the entire show and enjoyed the event. I personally find that once I stop trying to be a booker from home, I enjoy the show a lot more. Seriously people, who really could have won the Rumble but Brock Lesnar?? The only suitable win would have been if Roman did lose the Universal Title to Seth and came back in the Rumble and won that to get his Wrestlemania main event spot and rematch. Big E failed as a WWE Champion. He failed so bad they threw him back over to Smackdown out of nowhere as Kofi's tag partner again in New Day. Owens couldn't win, because WWE doesn't seem to want an "ordinary guy who looks like the casual fan" to be the face of the WWE Title picture. Styles should have won, and to be eliminated by a joke like Madcap is it?? So dumb. Why not have someone eliminate him which could create a possible feud down the road?? Randy Orton or Riddle winning would be possible if they were putting each of them in a WWE Title picture, but they aren't. They are gonna stick as a tag team clearly. Brock Lesnar was the only suitable choice to win the Royal Rumble. wasnt so much Big E Failed as WWE Failed him, failed to book him properly and such.
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