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Post by Nivro™ on May 29, 2022 14:26:31 GMT -5
5. I never understand why people that already got a specific figure or more than one of the same figure have to get another figure just because it is on clearance. (Gotta get a deal guy I'm looking at you) Someone who doesent have alot of spending power, that is struggling in college, could be waiting and relying on their nearest Walmart to bring these prices down, and then someone else who got there first and has greater spending power unnecessary swoops them up just because well...."gotta get a deal, I have two already but I will ...ah I will use it for a custom" |
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on May 29, 2022 17:32:23 GMT -5
Whiny collectors who nit pick everything.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on May 29, 2022 21:17:53 GMT -5
The hate comes from jealousy. People are upset that influencers get stuff for free when they can't find it. It's advertising and a ton of people here don't understand how it works. On that note, all of my pet peeves come from other collectors, not collecting itself. 1. People who don't understand that Mattel can't make whoever they want, they have to follow what WWE allows. 2. People clamoring for obscure jobber #42 and won't shup up about it. 3. People that don't have any patience and have to have something NOW 4. When people buy a ton of the same figure and post about it and act all bad about it. I don't care how you spend your money, do whatever you want. You're not a badass, we're all nerds that collect action figures here. 5. "Just buy a bunch of the new gen ring and sell them! It's not scalping!" It literally is scalping. Shut up. Yeah, no, I wouldn’t call that scalping. It was a crowdfunded project, and without the resellers, it literally may not have even met all the goals. I disagree. |
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Post by arossi417 on May 30, 2022 13:42:50 GMT -5
I guess this is as good a place as any for a first post?
Store exclusives are varying levels of annoying for the sole fact that the northeast seems to be the last spot to get stuff, and it either shows once or warms forever. Some of the Legends sets (7, 8, half of 10, 12-14) have been well stocked and even re-stocked, but some (9 & 11) seemed to show up once in random assortments rather than full cases. The Batista ultimate seems to be finally showing up, but it's very weird that Target has a monopoly on the product and goofed on the street date and didn't bother offering what presumably is a good collector's item for preorder. I don't really get that even if they have gotten better with exclusives. Walmart is easier to complain about since their preorders are laughable and even with a line designed to sell like the Hollywood set, the Cena and Rock figures are just now finding their way out while the Piper never really showed. The Amazon exclusives just seem to be a free for all without any sort of fanfare around preorder dates. I'm sure some of it is pandemic based, but it's really strange that major retailers who have no competition for specific products can't find an efficient way to just consistently get the product into consumer's hands.
This is probably a local issue, but I swear I never really see mainline elites or basics on Target/Walmart shelves anymore. Maybe stores get a case or two once a month and the picked through figures sit there in a mess of hollywood elites or legends that aren't moving, and the mainline figures never really get restocked. I'm glad the collector's edition concept has been shelved since they would feel impossible to find with how stuff is distributed now. That doesn't seem to be a sole Mattel problem, since the AEW figures tend to have the same thing happen (with their exclusives at walmart hogging a whole peg as well). Not really sure how that could be improved, but I've stopped trying to buy the regular lines at retailers and use them solely for the exclusives. Even with the complaints of basics being poor quality, all I ever see are the top picks clogging the pegs.
I'd say an actual minor annoyance figure-wise are the chase figures for mattel that aren't easily identifiable from the packaging. It took a while to find the L14 Edge chase in general, and then to find one without a huge paint application issue on the red trunks too which ended up being annoying. There's been others with small differences (E85 Aleister Black, E68 King Mabel) where you don't notice it if you're not careful. I wouldn't mind completely different looks for chases like the AEW line tends to do, but I get these are mostly paint swaps and not really entirely different figures at the end of the day. At least it's pretty obvious on basics most of the time.
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Post by shanieomaniac on May 30, 2022 17:02:08 GMT -5
Yeah, no, I wouldn’t call that scalping. It was a crowdfunded project, and without the resellers, it literally may not have even met all the goals. I disagree. You can disagree but it doesn't change the fact that without people buying multiples there's a very good chance it never would have reached the goals. It's not like people were tripping over themselves to order that thing, not before Macho was added. Plus, it was a crowdfunded preorder. Joe Reseller buying 10 wouldn't have stopped you from getting yours, if you had the money. This isn't a case of buying the only three Sting Chase figures in the entire state and then reselling them for 500 bucks a piece. "Scalping", by definition has never meant simply "Reselling an item you bought previously." So yeah, the New Gen Arena resellers aren't people I would consider scalpers. That said, it said Joe Reseller takes his 10 Machos and puts them on secondary for 2000 dollars a piece, that would make him a bag of d*cks and I really hope it doesn't come to that. (It probably will.) |
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Post by shanieomaniac on May 30, 2022 17:03:15 GMT -5
I guess this is as good a place as any for a first post? Store exclusives are varying levels of annoying for the sole fact that the northeast seems to be the last spot to get stuff, and it either shows once or warms forever. Some of the Legends sets (7, 8, half of 10, 12-14) have been well stocked and even re-stocked, but some (9 & 11) seemed to show up once in random assortments rather than full cases. The Batista ultimate seems to be finally showing up, but it's very weird that Target has a monopoly on the product and goofed on the street date and didn't bother offering what presumably is a good collector's item for preorder. I don't really get that even if they have gotten better with exclusives. Walmart is easier to complain about since their preorders are laughable and even with a line designed to sell like the Hollywood set, the Cena and Rock figures are just now finding their way out while the Piper never really showed. The Amazon exclusives just seem to be a free for all without any sort of fanfare around preorder dates. I'm sure some of it is pandemic based, but it's really strange that major retailers who have no competition for specific products can't find an efficient way to just consistently get the product into consumer's hands. This is probably a local issue, but I swear I never really see mainline elites or basics on Target/Walmart shelves anymore. Maybe stores get a case or two once a month and the picked through figures sit there in a mess of hollywood elites or legends that aren't moving, and the mainline figures never really get restocked. I'm glad the collector's edition concept has been shelved since they would feel impossible to find with how stuff is distributed now. That doesn't seem to be a sole Mattel problem, since the AEW figures tend to have the same thing happen (with their exclusives at walmart hogging a whole peg as well). Not really sure how that could be improved, but I've stopped trying to buy the regular lines at retailers and use them solely for the exclusives. Even with the complaints of basics being poor quality, all I ever see are the top picks clogging the pegs. I'd say an actual minor annoyance figure-wise are the chase figures for mattel that aren't easily identifiable from the packaging. It took a while to find the L14 Edge chase in general, and then to find one without a huge paint application issue on the red trunks too which ended up being annoying. There's been others with small differences (E85 Aleister Black, E68 King Mabel) where you don't notice it if you're not careful. I wouldn't mind completely different looks for chases like the AEW line tends to do, but I get these are mostly paint swaps and not really entirely different figures at the end of the day. At least it's pretty obvious on basics most of the time. Hey there! Welcome to the board! |
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Post by Captain McKay on May 30, 2022 17:40:45 GMT -5
I don't usually like store exclusives when it's one single figure. Something like the HOF line being a Target exclusive is fine to me, since it's an entire series and not one figure that MIGHT be there.
Reuse of terrible parts is also not great. I'll never understand why certain head sculpts get reused.
People being unwilling to adapt to new ideas...I remember when Ultimates were first announced and people HATED them because they were different from Elites, and then again when Elites started getting the double-jointed elbows, some people were NOT fans. Even though the final product is a better action figure, more often than not.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on May 30, 2022 18:32:58 GMT -5
You can disagree but it doesn't change the fact that without people buying multiples there's a very good chance it never would have reached the goals. It's not like people were tripping over themselves to order that thing, not before Macho was added. Plus, it was a crowdfunded preorder. Joe Reseller buying 10 wouldn't have stopped you from getting yours, if you had the money. This isn't a case of buying the only three Sting Chase figures in the entire state and then reselling them for 500 bucks a piece. "Scalping", by definition has never meant simply "Reselling an item you bought previously." So yeah, the New Gen Arena resellers aren't people I would consider scalpers. That said, it said Joe Reseller takes his 10 Machos and puts them on secondary for 2000 dollars a piece, that would make him a bag of d*cks and I really hope it doesn't come to that. (It probably will.) They weren't limited to collectors at the time. They will be limited for new collectors that weren't around when the crowdfunding thing started. That's what makes it scalping to me. |
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Post by Keck Collects on May 30, 2022 20:13:34 GMT -5
I guess this is as good a place as any for a first post? Store exclusives are varying levels of annoying for the sole fact that the northeast seems to be the last spot to get stuff, and it either shows once or warms forever. Some of the Legends sets (7, 8, half of 10, 12-14) have been well stocked and even re-stocked, but some (9 & 11) seemed to show up once in random assortments rather than full cases. The Batista ultimate seems to be finally showing up, but it's very weird that Target has a monopoly on the product and goofed on the street date and didn't bother offering what presumably is a good collector's item for preorder. I don't really get that even if they have gotten better with exclusives. Walmart is easier to complain about since their preorders are laughable and even with a line designed to sell like the Hollywood set, the Cena and Rock figures are just now finding their way out while the Piper never really showed. The Amazon exclusives just seem to be a free for all without any sort of fanfare around preorder dates. I'm sure some of it is pandemic based, but it's really strange that major retailers who have no competition for specific products can't find an efficient way to just consistently get the product into consumer's hands. This is probably a local issue, but I swear I never really see mainline elites or basics on Target/Walmart shelves anymore. Maybe stores get a case or two once a month and the picked through figures sit there in a mess of hollywood elites or legends that aren't moving, and the mainline figures never really get restocked. I'm glad the collector's edition concept has been shelved since they would feel impossible to find with how stuff is distributed now. That doesn't seem to be a sole Mattel problem, since the AEW figures tend to have the same thing happen (with their exclusives at walmart hogging a whole peg as well). Not really sure how that could be improved, but I've stopped trying to buy the regular lines at retailers and use them solely for the exclusives. Even with the complaints of basics being poor quality, all I ever see are the top picks clogging the pegs. I'd say an actual minor annoyance figure-wise are the chase figures for mattel that aren't easily identifiable from the packaging. It took a while to find the L14 Edge chase in general, and then to find one without a huge paint application issue on the red trunks too which ended up being annoying. There's been others with small differences (E85 Aleister Black, E68 King Mabel) where you don't notice it if you're not careful. I wouldn't mind completely different looks for chases like the AEW line tends to do, but I get these are mostly paint swaps and not really entirely different figures at the end of the day. At least it's pretty obvious on basics most of the time. Quite the first post. Welcome to WF. |
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Post by Keck Collects on May 30, 2022 20:15:35 GMT -5
I'm going to add, Target not getting full cases of Survivor Series, Wrestlemania and especially Royal Rumble sets, instead randomly inserting them into casepacks and we as the customer have to hope for the best that they show up. Especially since Target will not allow purchase on their app/online for most figures anymore.
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Post by shanieomaniac on May 31, 2022 6:59:11 GMT -5
You can disagree but it doesn't change the fact that without people buying multiples there's a very good chance it never would have reached the goals. It's not like people were tripping over themselves to order that thing, not before Macho was added. Plus, it was a crowdfunded preorder. Joe Reseller buying 10 wouldn't have stopped you from getting yours, if you had the money. This isn't a case of buying the only three Sting Chase figures in the entire state and then reselling them for 500 bucks a piece. "Scalping", by definition has never meant simply "Reselling an item you bought previously." So yeah, the New Gen Arena resellers aren't people I would consider scalpers. That said, it said Joe Reseller takes his 10 Machos and puts them on secondary for 2000 dollars a piece, that would make him a bag of d*cks and I really hope it doesn't come to that. (It probably will.) They weren't limited to collectors at the time. They will be limited for new collectors that weren't around when the crowdfunding thing started. That's what makes it scalping to me. But the new collectors who weren't around when the crowdfunding happened wouldn't have any chance at all for them if the people hadn't bought them when they were available? I'm genuinely curious as to the logic here. Would you still consider it scalping if they only charged 50 bucks a piece for the resold figures? I mean, I doubt people will, but would that make it not scalping? Or do you consider simply buying to resell later at any price "scalping" because if that's true, I don't see how this would offend people who didn't have a shot at the crowdfund because the resell of it would be the *only* way they could get the stuff later. |
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Post by coldblooded on May 31, 2022 7:14:56 GMT -5
I guess im a scalper cause i supported the new gen set.
Nevermind the fact that i never sold a figure ever lol
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Post by Thunder Chunky on May 31, 2022 8:10:44 GMT -5
They weren't limited to collectors at the time. They will be limited for new collectors that weren't around when the crowdfunding thing started. That's what makes it scalping to me. But the new collectors who weren't around when the crowdfunding happened wouldn't have any chance at all for them if the people hadn't bought them when they were available? I'm genuinely curious as to the logic here. Would you still consider it scalping if they only charged 50 bucks a piece for the resold figures? I mean, I doubt people will, but would that make it not scalping? Or do you consider simply buying to resell later at any price "scalping" because if that's true, I don't see how this would offend people who didn't have a shot at the crowdfund because the resell of it would be the *only* way they could get the stuff later. Agree to disagree. |
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Post by glassoni0n on May 31, 2022 11:29:29 GMT -5
Distribution issues are a major pet peeve. For me store exclusives fall under that umbrella because figures aren't everywhere anymore. Places like Target and Walmart have a hard enough time keeping their selections stocked and current, now we need to rely on them for hot figures many collectors want? The system worked a lot better when you had Toys R Us, KB Toys and other big box retailers. I got back into figure collecting when they released the retros because I wanted to fig hunt again, HA…I only ever found series 3 on the shelf. Which brings me to my second pet peeve, possibly even greater, Amazon. Not trying to go on an anti-Amazon rant per say, but goddamn do they disrespect figures. I get pop vinyls from them that look like they were Gronk spiked in the factory and then run over by a truck. I pulled the trigger on a loose retro collection because my first figure came with a bent card. Needless to say, I only buy from Amazon when I want to let something breathe.
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Post by DonDaBomb13 on May 31, 2022 17:37:40 GMT -5
My biggest pet peeve is scale. I hate when figures are not the correct height when compared to other wrestlers. I especially am frustrated by most of the current women's Elite figures. They look like children displayed next to most of the women's figures from Mattel 2010-2020. I think it started when they made Elites like AJ Styles/Daniel Bryan/etc. way shorter than their basics. They then compared the women's scales to those figures. Now the scales are all out of whack compared to earlier years.
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Post by kinnikuman on May 31, 2022 19:29:36 GMT -5
None. If I want it, I'll get it.
I have a pet peeve about this site though: guys who can't let go of a period in wrestling almost 30+ years ago and make post after post about wanting more Ultimate Warriors, Hogans, Machos, Razors, HBKs, Kanes, etc.
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Post by wheeljack83 on May 31, 2022 21:18:28 GMT -5
"Bad guidance."
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Post by bish on Jun 2, 2022 8:43:09 GMT -5
Extremely inconsistent distribution. Here in Canada we get legends figures at Toys R Us, but not every series.
Since Mattel relaunched the series here is how things have played out for us.
Series 7: Not available
Series 8: Available
Series 9: Available
Series 10: Not available
Series 11: Not available
Series 12: Available
Series 13: Not Available
Series 14: Partially available
The same thing happens with the PPV series figures. We got the Survivor Series set in March, didn’t get the Royal Rumble set at all and just got the WrestleMania set at the beginning of May. It’s so unpredictable!
What’s becoming the biggest pet peeve as of late is the cost. Inflation has been running 6-7% in Canada but we just got a 15% increase on legends figures. As a MOC and loose collector it’s forcing me to take a step back and choose one to keep MOC or loose as opposed to buying doubles of my favorites.
I don’t want to sound too negative. I still really enjoy the hobby and think Mattel does some great work. I just see some opportunities for improvement that could take the experience to another level.
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Post by kaleb9 on Jun 2, 2022 18:32:39 GMT -5
Loose joints straight out of the box
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Jun 3, 2022 10:09:10 GMT -5
When figures don't come with C shaped hands.
I also hate most screaming or mouth open headscans.
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