burtgummer
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Post by burtgummer on Mar 27, 2023 13:47:08 GMT -5
I can't believe y'all are hating on this. Blows my mind. Premium sets like this are all I could ever want as an adult wrestling figure collector. Like, dream stuff. Insane to me that anyone could see this and crap on it. Only ppl hating on it are the ones who can’t afford it.
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originaloutsider
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Post by originaloutsider on Mar 27, 2023 13:49:49 GMT -5
Im a fan, but I could've done without Hogan and Warrior. Easily could've put the Outsiders in this set.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Mar 27, 2023 13:50:00 GMT -5
A casual fan isn't going to drop 400+ on an arena. This set is for the hardcore collectors. You telling me that someone who never bought a Marvel Legend or maybe just a couple of their favorites over the years didn’t get wind of the Galactus crowdfund and ended up backing it? Or with the GI Joe Hiss Tank. That wasn’t anyone’s entry point into the Classified line? Plus the Mattel line has been alive for well over a decade. There hasn’t been anyone that stopped collecting in those years where this may be the piece that lures em back in? You mean an absolute fraction of the people who are gonna be buying this? You are coping real hard brother. A casual fan does not stumble across something that costs 450+ dollars and drop it on a whim like walking past an elite for 25 bucks.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Mar 27, 2023 13:51:59 GMT -5
There are zero yellow trunks WCW Hogan figures. Plus something like this has to have somewhat mass appeal. The goal should be to try and get the attention of some casual fans that may jump in for the first time after seeing this. My brother in christ, every yellow trunks Hogan is basically a WCW yellow trunks Hogan lmao. Every Cena is the same, as is every Stone Cold, every Roman, every Rock. It’s the accessories that differentiate them. Hogan is the most recognizable wrestler ever, in attire we’ve never gotten before, that’s been requested by numerous members of this community, that fits perfectly with the theme of the set. I get the gripes with Rey and DDP, but complaining about a yellow and red WCW Hogan is something I can’t wrap my head around.
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Post by coldblooded on Mar 27, 2023 13:52:11 GMT -5
But I didn't watch WCW. So they have to try and sell to a lot of people who didn't watch it. I love warrior, and have most of his figs, but I disagree on it being the 11k to nudge more people. New gen crawled to the 8k mark. I don't see this hitting 11k And if it doesn't? The hole thing isn't worth 400 imo. Especially a thrown in Hogan figure that looks exactly like his other 2 ultimates. I mean, forgive my ignorance, but you got a late WCW warrior, Steiner and DDP. But you have a debuting Hogan, with a late nitro stage? The attire choice is throwing me off. But did nitro have that stage when Hogan debuted? Forgive my ignorance 😂 I think we forget that New Gen got like 6K backers in a day. There wasn’t any motivation to back it after that because they didn’t add anymore tiers and cut off the ability to get Savage. That’s not the case this time. Hogan unlocks if funded within a week and will be available even if you get in late. Also, Nitro is a much more popular brand averaging something like 5 million viewers a week during its peak. The Nitro stage is a lot more iconic and eye catching than a neon entrance and another ring. Plus Hogan and Warrior bookending tiers will get people in early and late. I hope so, cause I would only back it for the entire set.
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skogen
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Post by skogen on Mar 27, 2023 13:53:24 GMT -5
What incentive do the “influencers” on IG and YouTube get from telling us, “you need to back this whether you like it or not because if you don’t there won’t be another crowdfund after it.” I just think that’s a ridiculous take - given the circumstances and financial struggles a lot of folks are going through right now. Exactly. "there won't be another crowdfund after if you don't back it"... ok? if it's stuff that's too expensive and doesn't have value for me then why would I care if there isn't another one. I don't even buy that argument necessarily, if there's a way to make money then Mattel will justifiably do it.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Mar 27, 2023 13:54:04 GMT -5
My brother in christ, every yellow trunks Hogan is basically a WCW yellow trunks Hogan lmao. Every Cena is the same, as is every Stone Cold, every Roman, every Rock. It’s the accessories that differentiate them. Hogan is the most recognizable wrestler ever, in attire we’ve never gotten before, that’s been requested by numerous members of this community, that fits perfectly with the theme of the set. I get the gripes with Rey and DDP, but complaining about a yellow and red WCW Hogan is something I can’t wrap my head around. Are any of the people you mentioned trying to be used as an incentive to get people to part with nearly 500 dollars of their money? No. You can get away with re-release figures with new accessories at 25 dollars, not 500.
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Thunder Chunky
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Mar 27, 2023 13:54:11 GMT -5
A casual fan isn't going to drop 400+ on an arena. This set is for the hardcore collectors. You telling me that someone who never bought a Marvel Legend or maybe just a couple of their favorites over the years didn’t get wind of the Galactus crowdfund and ended up backing it? Or with the GI Joe Hiss Tank. That wasn’t anyone’s entry point into the Classified line? Plus the Mattel line has been alive for well over a decade. There hasn’t been anyone that stopped collecting in those years where this may be the piece that lures em back in? Wrestling has always been niche and wrestling figure collectors are an even smaller portion of the audience. Joe's and Marvel Legends have always had much bigger fan bases. There are at least 4 different Ultimate Hogans out there, with one of them being the exact same figure besides some of the accessories. The Hogan isn't pulling anybody in.
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Post by coldblooded on Mar 27, 2023 13:56:30 GMT -5
But I didn't watch WCW. So they have to try and sell to a lot of people who didn't watch it. I love warrior, and have most of his figs, but I disagree on it being the 11k to nudge more people. New gen crawled to the 8k mark. I don't see this hitting 11k And if it doesn't? The hole thing isn't worth 400 imo. Especially a thrown in Hogan figure that looks exactly like his other 2 ultimates. I mean, forgive my ignorance, but you got a late WCW warrior, Steiner and DDP. But you have a debuting Hogan, with a late nitro stage? The attire choice is throwing me off. But did nitro have that stage when Hogan debuted? Forgive my ignorance 😂 Yes Hogan wore the red & yellow when Nitro debuted (which is what this stage represents, Nitro's early years). You seem conflicted - like you should buy this even though you didn't watch WCW? If it's just the figures you'd want, just buy them on the secondary market - it'll be way cheaper than $400. I can understand that this isn't going to be for everybody; I'm just hoping there are enough WCW fans left (such as myself) to get this funded in-full. My main disappointment is that there is no Eric Bischoff figure; He was integral to WCW Nitro and should be part of this set. I'd have also been happy with a late-career Mean Gene Okerlund who was a huge part of Nitro. Booker T is also a glaring omission - and no Nitro set is complete without Sting and Flair (I understand why they're not here). I hope this meets 11K but I have my doubts - I will be a day-One backer - I watched WCW Nitro every week while it was on! I'm a huge WCW fan and always will be - besides my minor gripes I'm thrilled with this set and hope it becomes a reality! I'm willing to help back it for future project like I backed the new gen set. If the hole thing gets 11k then it's clearly an awesome deal. But I have to have the 11k for me to back it, as if it finishes short on the 11k the chances are pretty high of me canceling it all together, and I'd imagine I wouldn't be alone on that front either. I'd love to back it but I'm not spending 400 on a Rey I don't want and a Hogan I already have. Unless the entire thing gets 11k then yes absolute deal.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Mar 27, 2023 13:58:11 GMT -5
What incentive do the “influencers” on IG and YouTube get from telling us, “you need to back this whether you like it or not because if you don’t there won’t be another crowdfund after it.” I just think that’s a ridiculous take - given the circumstances and financial struggles a lot of folks are going through right now. Exactly. "there won't be another crowdfund after if you don't back it"... ok? if it's stuff that's too expensive and doesn't have value for me then why would I care if there isn't another one. I don't even buy that argument necessarily, if there's a way to make money then Mattel will justifiably do it. I think that argument was valid for the New Gen Arena since it was the first one and if corporate sees the first as failure then assuming another would be is kinda understandable. The second one failing after you learn nothing from the first one and at nearly double the cost is not a death kneel like the first one failing.
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markanthonyxiii
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Post by markanthonyxiii on Mar 27, 2023 14:00:26 GMT -5
I can't believe y'all are hating on this. Blows my mind. Premium sets like this are all I could ever want as an adult wrestling figure collector. Like, dream stuff. Insane to me that anyone could see this and crap on it. Only ppl hating on it are the ones who can’t afford it. I don't think people are hating on it for the price, as $400 is a decent price, its the outside the US collectors, in UK we have to pay more, $400 works out around £320-40 yet we are being charged £470 for this.
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Post by jacobl18 on Mar 27, 2023 14:04:03 GMT -5
I can't believe y'all are hating on this. Blows my mind. Premium sets like this are all I could ever want as an adult wrestling figure collector. Like, dream stuff. Insane to me that anyone could see this and crap on it. Only ppl hating on it are the ones who can’t afford it. I’m hating on it but I’ll order two only because I want Mattel to do more crowdfunds. I fear if this fails they won’t try again.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Mar 27, 2023 14:08:36 GMT -5
You know what really bugs me? That Steiner's singlet is incorrect. The shape should be more of a U shape and is more V shaped. It's not hard to find reference pics. I also don't like how we're consistently getting those cheap painted biker trunks. Could we not get get MOLDED BIKER TRUNKS? This is the singlet I wanted, I'm assuming some details were left off. I do know he wore one without details. For a figure of this caliber there shouldn't really be many mistakes.
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crush
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Post by crush on Mar 27, 2023 14:09:06 GMT -5
I can't believe y'all are hating on this. Blows my mind. Premium sets like this are all I could ever want as an adult wrestling figure collector. Like, dream stuff. Insane to me that anyone could see this and crap on it. Only ppl hating on it are the ones who can’t afford it. This might be the dumbest take I've ever read on here, and good lord is that saying a lot.
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Post by HandsomeHollywood on Mar 27, 2023 14:11:30 GMT -5
I was just born in the wrong time. If this were in store for $200CAD I would gladly purchase it.
Unfortunately, like the New Gen set, I don't want to spend $800CAD after taxes and fees and shipping, for a Nitro stage. The incentives are fine, but it's the stage I want. Seeing how the incentives sold on the second hand Canadian market makes reselling the bits I don't want not very viable. Reselling to Americans is also not viable since they are usually very scared to deal with international collectors.
I just want to be able to go to the store and buy figures. It's insane to me Mattel makes this as hard as possible for international fans.
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Post by One Punch Reigns on Mar 27, 2023 14:17:12 GMT -5
I can't believe y'all are hating on this. Blows my mind. Premium sets like this are all I could ever want as an adult wrestling figure collector. Like, dream stuff. Insane to me that anyone could see this and crap on it. Only ppl hating on it are the ones who can’t afford it. Didn't we see people say that with the failed Engine of Vengeance HasLab? And we're in a pretty crap period economically, woof, rough take. Not entirely fair either, I love the stage and I want it, not $400 want it tho
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champofakind
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Post by champofakind on Mar 27, 2023 14:17:35 GMT -5
While this is cool it's a big pass. If it goes through with all tiers I'll buy steiner, ddp, and rey off ebay or something.
Would have made more sense for a raw is war entrance stage or a hell in the cell. You know for the ring they just released and you can still purchase.
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Figure Nova
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Post by Figure Nova on Mar 27, 2023 14:19:28 GMT -5
The figure choices are ludicrous. Surely the no-brainers that even the most basic fan would choose over this group would be:
- Nash and Hall in their debut street gear - commentator look/nwo Bischoff - Jeans DDP - Steiner in his more iconic shorts and chainmail look - FTITL Mongo as a bonus
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marklud
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Post by marklud on Mar 27, 2023 14:21:20 GMT -5
I can't believe y'all are hating on this. Blows my mind. Premium sets like this are all I could ever want as an adult wrestling figure collector. Like, dream stuff. Insane to me that anyone could see this and crap on it. Only ppl hating on it are the ones who can’t afford it. In this regard, I do wish Mattel and this board and the figure Facebook groups/etc. would ALL emphasize that we can all pay with payment plans. Payments plans are the way to go on big-ticket figure items. $100 a month or whatever for something as amazing as this is a complete no-brainer in my book. I completely get being spooked by a $400 price tag, but I really think we as a community need to be made aware that payment plans are the way to go with items like this. (It's the only way anyone buys Hot Toys, for example.)
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Post by kiloinnorcal on Mar 27, 2023 14:21:47 GMT -5
While this is cool it's a big pass. If it goes through with all tiers I'll buy steiner, ddp, and rey off ebay or something. Would have made more sense for a raw is war entrance stage or a hell in the cell. You know for the ring they just released and you can still purchase. Yeah could you imagine a Raw is War stage with an Ultimate Mankind, Triple H, China, Trish, Lita, and Kurt Angle?
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