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Post by originaloutsider on Mar 27, 2023 22:47:47 GMT -5
I'm interested in the stage, not the figs. I'll sell the figures, even as a nWo fan I just have love for the big three (Hogan, Hall, and Nash) sorry Scottie.
I guess they went this route due to what happened last year with adding the tiers for Macho. One want I would be happy about is adding removable pieces to add the nWo nitro stage.
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Post by originaloutsider on Mar 27, 2023 22:48:37 GMT -5
Willing to be we get a WCW Ring as a Ringside Exclusive with some WCW wrestler, then the next Ultimate Edition 2-Pack after the Usos is Hall and Nash oh I hope so... |
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Post by originaloutsider on Mar 27, 2023 22:48:57 GMT -5
just one more thing, RODZILLA UE will be legendary
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Post by matgarza5 on Mar 27, 2023 22:50:54 GMT -5
Overall this offering from Mattel is absolutely amazing. I’m very excited and grateful that we have the opportunity to add such a highly detailed and accurate WCW Nitro Stage to our collections. This will likely be our only chance to get this thing made. I know that some think it’s too big or price is a little high but it’s a one time purchase and the regret of missing out on such a fantastic piece would be a tough pill to swallow. The figures I know are a little plain for some and a few have actually been released before but not in Ultimate form. For months people have asked for more and more Ultimate style figures and Mattel is trying by giving us a possible FIVE if this is fully backed. We are mostly die hard collectors here so we know that we’d rather have DDP w/Jeans, Outsider Hall/Nash, Bischoff, or FTITL figs BUT I think that with this being displayed at Access and being offered around Wrestlemania they are trying to appeal to the common action figure collector, new to the game collector, or 30-40 yr old who grew up watching Nitro and see this thing and think WOW I NEED THAT. Has to be why they offered a Hogan we basically have or a DDP that we have elites of. Pump and Warrior were likely thrown in to get us on board no matter what. I’ll be backing one no doubt. But I think Mattel has to have one more surprise up there sleeve just in case numbers stall at a certain point
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 27, 2023 22:56:34 GMT -5
Still unsure where I land on this. I love the stage so much, but the lack of guaranteed additional products makes the price very hard to justify. If you were early on the New Gen, you had the entrance/ring etc and 2 desirable figures guaranteed (1 FTIL Ultimate and 1 excellent repaint), with 1 figure and ring skirts as the stretch goals. With the Nitro one, you could argue all of the desirable figures are in the stretch goals and 2 uninteresting repaints are the guarantees.That's probably why they did it that way, having the more desirable figures at the end gives it more of a chance to make 11K backers. I'm guessing they're hoping the entrance stage is the main seller for the first tier to get it made, then the figures sell the rest. If you put Hogan and Rey as the last two figures, it's possible people wouldn't care about getting it to 10-11K. If this doesn’t get fully funded. I hope we can still get ultimate ddp and Steiner. Steiner seems to be likely to get another UE figure, maybe not in the same gear, but in one of his shorts look as Big Poppa Pump. Probably one figure from his tag team days too. DDP to me might be doubtful. I'm gonna share my thoughts on this all in one place now.... The entrance stage is awesome. It's iconic. It's perfectly done. Everything about it RULES. The deco, the size, the lighting. What an absolute home run. If I was 16 years old I'd be losing my MIND with excitement to get this. 5 Ultimate Edition figures is also a great bonus. $35 each (retail) = $175. Making up almost half the cost. When you think about how much the entrance and ring cost in the new gen set, this feels right. I definitely don't feel ripped off by this price point IF we get to all tiers.
Hulk Hogan- An absolute must for Ultimate collectors. A WCW "debut" is an important piece for us. But why do we need 2 shirts? seems kind of unnecessary. Especially given the next few tiers. It seems like they went heavy on Hogan accessories not saving room for much else Rey Mysterio- This one is a head scratcher TBH. It's not a memorable attire, I guess it's gonna come with a robe, but like we JUST got a Rey in a robe with the legends figure and its WCW-esque. Not to mention we are also JUST getting another Ultimate Rey in a way more impressive attire/look. It's a weird choice to say the least. I'm not all that thrilled about it. DDP- This is where they both have and lose me. DDP in jeans is his most iconic look in WCW. his peak was when he was wearing jeans. Plus we haven't really gotten it in figure form properly. This feels like a miss. No title belt, no rib tape,just very few accessories. It's going to be a VERY light "ultimate" figure. It looks cool, it's a nice figure. I just feel like it's the wrong choice overall for this set. Scott Steiner- This is an excellent way to debut Steiner in the line. It will sell on name alone, I'm glad he's coming with the US belt, it still feels light on accessories though for an "ultimate" Ultimate Warrior- This one is both puzzling and cool at the same time. I get it being the last tier because its really obscure. Glad it would be coming with a full duster, that will help put it over the top. But if we were going to get a figure in jeans for this set....it should have been DDP, and they could have put anybody else besides Warrior in the last tier. It seems like warrior is taking up a lot of budget with a detailed duster. The figure choices are solid, but I honestly feel like they are just the wrong moves. We have an overload of Rey, Hogan and Warrior in every line... DDP is not in his most iconic look and accessory light. Steiner is obviously the standout and it feels like he should be the guaranteed one. This thing is FOR collectors, not casuals. They don't need 3 anchor figures....and it feels like they dont have enough confidence in this to go a different route Debut Ultimate Booker T, debut Ultimate DDP (in jeans) and debut Ultimate Scott Steiner would have been sufficient. Then you bring a Hogan and either Warrior or Rey if you need "top" guys. Lastly, I still firmly believe (unless they have it in their back pocket) that one of the teirs should have been WCW themed ropes, turnbuckles & ringskirts. We've just bought 2 real scale rings in the last calendar year. Those have sold pretty damn well. Everyone would love the ability to convert one of those rings to match this entrance. Again, we don't know how this is all going to play out, but I feel like if they started with those accessories as a tier instead of a figure it would have gotten WAY more positive responses. All in all, this thing OVERALL is fantastic. I'm absolutely in for 1....I just would have handled it differently if I was creating it True, the figures themselves almost pay for the thing itself, each of the New Generation Figures went for $80 or more on eBay, if this holds the same, then 5 figures times $80 equals $400 dollars. Though, that would depend on everything getting backed. I think for most people, it is definitely worth the price if all of the tiers get backed. I agree with you on the figure choices, some are head scratchers, but the only one that seems weird to me is Rey, I just don't think of Nitro with him, maybe because he wasn't one of the big-time stars during its run, or maybe because he's been in the WWE for so long that I associate him more with them. I think if they would have gone with debut Lex Luger with 1995/96 wrestling gear underneath the clothing, or debut Scott Hall, again with 1996/97 wrestling gear underneath the clothing, that would have been a better option. It’s really gonna need the announcer stage to go with it. That should have been the early bird special, the announcer table with either ultimate edition Bishoff or Mongo, of course... Put that as the early bird special and debut Hogan as the first tier figure instead of Rey.  |
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Post by MKSavage on Mar 27, 2023 23:00:01 GMT -5
Willing to be we get a WCW Ring as a Ringside Exclusive with some WCW wrestler, then the next Ultimate Edition 2-Pack after the Usos is Hall and Nash That would make sense and could help sell this even more for some people. Put out images of Hall and Nash as the wave 2 UE 2-pack, then maybe announcer the Steiners as wave 3. Next release a WCW Nitro ring with an Ultimate Edition figure like what they did with the Raw ring and UE Kane. If people know that they're going to get a WCW nitro ring and 5 more WCW UE figures, that could help, maybe. |
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Post by wrestlingfan1000 on Mar 27, 2023 23:02:05 GMT -5
I'm mostly in this for the stage. Having that makes a great center piece for my WCW display! I can't stop thinking about the possibilities of it. I really do hope it gets funded along with the figures or least to unlock Scott Steiner.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Mar 27, 2023 23:19:42 GMT -5
5 Ultimate Edition figures is also a great bonus. $35 each (retail) = $175. Making up almost half the cost. When you think about how much the entrance and ring cost in the new gen set, this feels right. I definitely don't feel ripped off by this price point IF we get to all tiers. And that’s mass produced retail. These are more comparable to limited made to order figures like Cody Roads and Paul Logan sold exclusively on Mattel Creations which go for $45. Multiply that by 5 and it’s $225. |
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Post by JokerFC on Mar 27, 2023 23:26:31 GMT -5
That's a great set. Happy that The Steiner included is one I could have lived without
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Post by Jeremiah on Mar 27, 2023 23:28:24 GMT -5
What if at the reveal they show renders of wcw UE we know a Macho is coming and Orton bit who's UE 20 ?
Nash
Hall
Booker T
Eddy Guerrero
Curt Hennig
Rick Steiner
Not saying all but who knows.
To help entice this getting the backers.
When I asked Steve he said more Black UE wrestlers were in the future with his of course response.
We should know Coliseum 3
Prototypes of 102, 103 ?
Renders of 104 maybe legends 20 ?
Prototypes of legends 19
Usos colored renders.
Maybe renders of RA series 4 or 5 and 6.
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Post by TheFallen on Mar 27, 2023 23:40:31 GMT -5
The more I’ve thought about this the more I’m most likely going to back it.
It’s gonna cost a fortune in $aud but something tells me if this is successful the smaller RAW stage is next, kind of like how the Raw is War Ring came off the success of the Next Gen Arena.
I’m a Golden Era fan first and foremost but the Monday Night Wars was an amazing time as a wrestling fan. I’m covered with the Coliseum Collection for my Golden Era so bring on the Nitro stage and even more Monday Night Wars era figures.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Mar 27, 2023 23:41:03 GMT -5
I kinda have the feeling that the people saying “why make Hogan the early bird? That figure isn’t going to motivate people to back it early” are the same people who complained about Mr T and Sgt Slaughter being the SDCC exclusive saying they were dumb choices and wouldn’t sell out. Same with No Holds Barred saying it was a bad movie that no one liked so why would anyone want to buy those figs.
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Mar 27, 2023 23:59:42 GMT -5
I kinda have the feeling that the people saying “why make Hogan the early bird? That figure isn’t going to motivate people to back it early” are the same people who complained about Mr T and Sgt Slaughter being the SDCC exclusive saying they were dumb choices and wouldn’t sell out. Same with No Holds Barred saying it was a bad movie that no one liked so why would anyone want to buy those figs. slaughter as an ultimate and a new attire was great. Also mr t I’m pretty sure that was his first figure. NOT the same. Hogans attire is the same as the as the other 2 hogans that are readily available. Also zeus first figure! That’s a great selling point |
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Mar 28, 2023 0:11:05 GMT -5
I kinda have the feeling that the people saying “why make Hogan the early bird? That figure isn’t going to motivate people to back it early” are the same people who complained about Mr T and Sgt Slaughter being the SDCC exclusive saying they were dumb choices and wouldn’t sell out. Same with No Holds Barred saying it was a bad movie that no one liked so why would anyone want to buy those figs. |
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Post by sandeep on Mar 28, 2023 0:22:40 GMT -5
Great stage but not impressed with included figures.
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Post by sandeep on Mar 28, 2023 0:23:56 GMT -5
Hope to have Jean DDP in regular ultimate line.
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Post by AxelSmackdown on Mar 28, 2023 0:30:08 GMT -5
Mysterio should come with a WCW Cruiserweight Championship
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Post by CM Tusk on Mar 28, 2023 0:32:51 GMT -5
I kinda have the feeling that the people saying “why make Hogan the early bird? That figure isn’t going to motivate people to back it early” are the same people who complained about Mr T and Sgt Slaughter being the SDCC exclusive saying they were dumb choices and wouldn’t sell out. Same with No Holds Barred saying it was a bad movie that no one liked so why would anyone want to buy those figs. To be fair, with SDCC figures, they usually sell out quick because limited qualities and scalpers know people want them. There are people that want this Hogan, but I don’t think the majority are going to be more motivated to spend that much in the next week and a half just for him. Especially when we have seen multiple variations of that gear already. I’m going be ordering regardless, as I’m an Ultimate completionist, but I don’t really need another Hogan. So if it doesn’t end up making the goal by the early bird cut off and the figure isn’t made, I won’t lose any sleep over it. Which is why I think they should have done Steiner as the early bird. He would be the best chance of hitting 5k in the first week. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Mar 28, 2023 0:34:49 GMT -5
Easiest of easy passes for me. The actual stage is fantastic - but for the cost of it all to the UK (£480 = $590), the figures had to be something special... and, aside from Steiner, I'd genuinely have a hard time coming up with four more underwhelming and disappointing figures. Oh well.
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Post by CM Tusk on Mar 28, 2023 0:38:44 GMT -5
It would never happen, even if he were still with the company, but the more I look at that Rey the more I want a Dean Malenko Ultimate. Honestly believe he is Rey’s greatest opponent.
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