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Post by Ministry of Darkness on Mar 28, 2023 3:59:41 GMT -5
I will only consider backing when the WWF Raw Is War stage becomes a reality. That's the only stage I would consider since that's my favourite time in wrestling.
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Post by Bramahummel on Mar 28, 2023 5:30:20 GMT -5
Mattel Creations lists this as £470 + £9 shipping inclusive of duty and tax. ...which is about $590 USD 🥴. So us lucky UK peeps would be paying almost $200 more...? As I said... what with the overall cost and poor figure choices, it's an easy pass. Man you UK guys dont get it?! Its incl custom charges, taxes, fees and shipping. Or do you realy think this huge package ships for 9.99 from the US to UK? 🙄
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Post by tigerlillysingh on Mar 28, 2023 5:51:30 GMT -5
I like the stage a lot actually almost enough to convince me to buy but I don’t think there’s enough for the money they’re asking for. Being UK also kills it. If I’m spending £150-£160 on postage and packinging, I want it within the next hour not 16 months from now.
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Post by Cammi Oh on Mar 28, 2023 5:54:02 GMT -5
The stage celebrates the defunct promotion that ran itself into the ground. WCW represents the worst of wrestling since most of this era was trying to be a second rate version of WWF. THe NWO stuff started out as interesting TV but that is not present in this crowdfunding project. Unless they add 3 or 4 more Ultimates, it is NOT worth backing, IMO
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Post by SteveHulk on Mar 28, 2023 5:54:16 GMT -5
...which is about $590 USD 🥴. So us lucky UK peeps would be paying almost $200 more...? As I said... what with the overall cost and poor figure choices, it's an easy pass. Man you UK guys dont get it?! Its incl custom charges, taxes, fees and shipping. Or do you realy think this huge package ships for 9.99 from the US to UK? 🙄 Errrm... yeah, we get it(?). That's why I said "the overall cost". Obviously, it's going to cost more to ship - but it still sucks for international peeps, having to pay nearly $200 more than in the US. It will also put a lot of (international) people off backing it - which will hurt the sales/tiers for everyone.
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Post by TheEvilDoink1987 on Mar 28, 2023 5:59:29 GMT -5
I'm sorry but there's no arguing the figures aren't all poor choices except for Steiner. Hogan is basically a re-release, DDP is in a gear we've gotten 2 times already, Warrior is barely associated with WCW and is in street gear and Rey is barely passable but certainly isn't clamored for. They have better options under deals, Booker T, Bischoff, Nash, Hall, Flair, and Luger all spring to mind. That's cool and all but all those you named besides Bischoff and maybe Booker have countless figures as well. People were complaining about Luger being in the legends line recently let alone being an ultimate.... With that, people are saying some of the ultimates in this set are boring and you want another Luger that would check the box of a boring ultimate. Makes sense. As far as general consensus, most people aren't interested in an ultimate Luger or Luger himself in for that matter... So not sure if he'd "put butts in seats" for this project. Agreed that WCW Luger had a very generic look. It is funny how a figure of his would be considered boring for most if included in this set, but a "Made in the USA" Lex for the New Generation arena could've probably gotten that one funded to another tier.
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Post by The Assassin on Mar 28, 2023 6:01:31 GMT -5
Don't agree with most of the figure/attire choices, but then I never really expected to since I guessed Mattel would take the "A-lister Ultimates" approach, whereas personally I'd have preferred the "more-obscure Elites" approach (e.g. ring announcer Michael Buffer, commentator Steve McMichael, referee Nick Patrick, interviewer Gene Okerlund, nitro girl Kimberly, etc). That said I guessed DDP would be one of their choices, so had hoped we might at least finally get that blue-diamond shirt and jeans DDP with a serious/intense headscan... But ah well, the quest continues.
The stage is the most important thing here though, and I love that, so happy they made it to an accurate scale. The only thing that bothers me is no announcer area/table. But presumably a Nitro ring will follow at some point (hopefully made to true 18x18 WCW scale, instead of 20x20 WWE scale), so hopefully the full Nitro announcer area/table will be included with that.
Really hope the rumored WCW figure line (supposedly following Ruthless Aggression) includes more-obscure "deep dive" WCW names (i.e. mid-carders, luchas/cruiserweights, managers, women, referees, commentators, announcers, wrestlecrap, etc) and not just the same A-listers/WWE-guys we've already seen loads of times. Plus that blue-diamond shirt and jeans DDP with serious headscan, of course.
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Post by jordanimal on Mar 28, 2023 6:04:25 GMT -5
I think everything is really cool. I want the steiner, ddp, mysterio...but don't need warrior or hogan or the stage (it's cool as hell, but I have no where to keep it!)
very undecided on backing or not.
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Post by sandeep on Mar 28, 2023 6:09:00 GMT -5
According to me The stage and DDP ultimate should be in base offering, Early Bird should be announcers set just like New Gen arena, then the tier 2 should have Big Poppa Pump and 3 rd tier including Eric Bishop , 4th tier should have included ring ropes, turnbuckle, matt and side panel of the ring.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Mar 28, 2023 6:27:47 GMT -5
I’m not fan of that Rey figure but I don’t get the “when I think of WCW Nitro, I don’t think of Rey” argument. Right after nWo, the cruiserweight division is next to be mentioned on what made that era great and Rey was a constant face of the division throughout. Maybe he shouldn’t be the fig that gets bundled with the stage but the cruiser division definitely deserves to be represented in this set.
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Post by Mongo Bears on Mar 28, 2023 6:35:35 GMT -5
Should’ve been ultimate ultimo
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Post by Warriah' on Mar 28, 2023 6:36:07 GMT -5
...which is about $590 USD 🥴. So us lucky UK peeps would be paying almost $200 more...? As I said... what with the overall cost and poor figure choices, it's an easy pass. Man you UK guys dont get it?! Its incl custom charges, taxes, fees and shipping. Or do you realy think this huge package ships for 9.99 from the US to UK? 🙄 They’re massively overcharging. Customs should be 20%, which would be 65 (bringing the total to about £390). But they’re charging 470. Which is 80 more than it should be.
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Post by newgenandy on Mar 28, 2023 6:46:09 GMT -5
Don't agree with most of the figure/attire choices, but then I never really expected to since I guessed Mattel would take the "A-lister Ultimates" approach, whereas personally I'd have preferred the "more-obscure Elites" approach (e.g. ring announcer Michael Buffer, commentator Steve McMichael, referee Nick Patrick, interviewer Gene Okerlund, nitro girl Kimberly, etc). That said I guessed DDP would be one of their choices, so had hoped we might at least finally get that blue-diamond shirt and jeans DDP with a serious/intense headscan... But ah well, the quest continues. The stage is the most important thing here though, and I love that, so happy they made it to an accurate scale. The only thing that bothers me is no announcer area/table. But presumably a Nitro ring will follow at some point (hopefully made to true 18x18 WCW scale, instead of 20x20 WWE scale), so hopefully the full Nitro announcer area/table will be included with that. Really hope the rumored WCW figure line (supposedly following Ruthless Aggression) includes more-obscure "deep dive" WCW names (i.e. mid-carders, luchas/cruiserweights, managers, women, referees, commentators, announcers, wrestlecrap, etc) and not just the same A-listers/WWE-guys we've already seen loads of times. Plus that blue-diamond shirt and jeans DDP with serious headscan, of course. You listed 5 people of which maybe 1 is signed, although we don’t know when contracts start and stop so even gene’s could’ve expired
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Post by Bramahummel on Mar 28, 2023 6:48:11 GMT -5
Man you UK guys dont get it?! Its incl custom charges, taxes, fees and shipping. Or do you realy think this huge package ships for 9.99 from the US to UK? 🙄 They’re massively overcharging. Customs should be 20%, which would be 65 (bringing the total to about £390). But they’re charging 470. Which is 80 more than it should be. But didnt you already pay 65 for the new gen set? And remember the included shipping costs. Shipping such a huge and heavy box from USA to uk is way more than only 10£
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Post by slimjim23 on Mar 28, 2023 6:53:40 GMT -5
I wish Hogan would have been in the outfit he wore in the first NWO skit. All black biker pants and the sleeveless solid black shirt. That to me would be a one off that would not be for mass retail. Also swap Rey for Booker. I think the reactions would have been more positive
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Post by Warriah' on Mar 28, 2023 7:07:42 GMT -5
They’re massively overcharging. Customs should be 20%, which would be 65 (bringing the total to about £390). But they’re charging 470. Which is 80 more than it should be. But didnt you already pay 65 for the new gen set? And remember the included shipping costs. Shipping such a huge and heavy box from USA to uk is way more than only 10£ If shipping is more than £10 then they should charge more for shipping. It’s not ethical to overcharge me for tax/customs because they aren’t charging enough for postage.
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Post by dietpizzauk on Mar 28, 2023 7:11:15 GMT -5
The UK price includes tax and customs. Let’s break it down: At $250, we got charged roughly £60-65 in fees with the New Gen set. Scale that up to $400 for the Nitro set, and that £60-65 becomes £96-104. So with the £325 that comes from the straight $ to £ conversion, add the £104 for charges, that gives us a cost of £429 that we would roughly have to pay in total, being charged in US dollars. That leaves £40, which can be for exchange rate fluctuations, and any additional fees Mattel may incur converting it back to USD. It’s not this big rip-off people are claiming it to be!
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Post by jokerjohn on Mar 28, 2023 7:19:36 GMT -5
I hope this gets fully backed just for the sheer purpose of keeping mattel wanting to keep on putting out unique awesome stuff I don’t want this but I’m backing 2 for exactly the reason you stated. To me backing something you don't want because you're hoping to get something you do in the future is sending the wrong message. It's obvious most people's ussue with this is the figures so if this fails then we are forcing Mattel to look at why it didn't work and improve on the next one. First thing I would have done is replace the third yellow and red ultimate Hogan with Dark Hogan. It's different enough where people wouldn't complain we've already gotten it.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Mar 28, 2023 7:20:37 GMT -5
I'm sorry but there's no arguing the figures aren't all poor choices except for Steiner. Hogan is basically a re-release, DDP is in a gear we've gotten 2 times already, Warrior is barely associated with WCW and is in street gear and Rey is barely passable but certainly isn't clamored for. They have better options under deals, Booker T, Bischoff, Nash, Hall, Flair, and Luger all spring to mind. That's cool and all but all those you named besides Bischoff and maybe Booker have countless figures as well. People were complaining about Luger being in the legends line recently let alone being an ultimate.... With that, people are saying some of the ultimates in this set are boring and you want another Luger that would check the box of a boring ultimate. Makes sense. As far as general consensus, most people aren't interested in an ultimate Luger or Luger himself in for that matter... So not sure if he'd "put butts in seats" for this project. The only UE Nash is in the new gen set as Diesel, UE NWO Scott Hall to go with Nash is a no brainer, we've never had a UE Booker or even a singles WCW Booker in any form IIRC, Luger has potential not because of the look but the accessories. He could come with a regular NWO shirt, Wolfpac shirt, WCW tag title(s), big gold, etc things really relevant to the set. The only NWO representation in this set being Steiner which doesn't even have the NWO logo (as far as I've seen in pics could be wrong) is wild.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Mar 28, 2023 7:27:22 GMT -5
I don’t want this but I’m backing 2 for exactly the reason you stated. To me backing something you don't want because you're hoping to get something you do in the future is sending the wrong message. It's obvious most people's ussue with this is the figures so if this fails then we are forcing Mattel to look at why it didn't work and improve on the next one. First thing I would have done is replace the third yellow and red ultimate Hogan with Dark Hogan. It's different enough where people wouldn't complain we've already gotten it. The logic of it needing to be a success to get more was only relevant to the first one IMO. Mattel corporate seeing the first ever fail and deciding to abandon doing them was a legitimate fear. Seeing the first on succeed and the second that is nearly double the price of the first fail, is less likely to be a death kneel to them ever doing it again. The crowd funds have proven they can be successful, but this seems like a huge fumble with the price being so high given the global economic climate and the poor choices in figures.
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