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Post by coldblooded on Apr 8, 2023 8:23:22 GMT -5
Go to Steve’s IG. There’s a video. Who’s Steve? The guy who got us a lot of legends we otherwise probably wouldn't get from the previous dude in his spot. |
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Apr 8, 2023 8:34:58 GMT -5
2000 backers is solid for a weeks notice...those 2000 should still get Hogan. We wont. Mattel doesn't operate like that. MAYBE if it was another company, but Mattel isn't going to get that one to us. A lot of times it's sadly like getting blood from a stone to get them to make sought after stuff. And that is not an indictment on Steve or Bill. I think a lot of that has to do with the power structure in Mattel. They are more traditional and corporate. |
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Post by Rocket_Fuel_Merchant on Apr 8, 2023 8:34:58 GMT -5
There's three main mistakes/issues, imho: - the crazy overcharge on international orders (and no real explanation/breakdown from Mattel) - 4/5 uninspiring figure choices (especially the main/guaranteed one) - it's WCW, not WWE (it's a great stage - but WCW has far less of a fanbase/fewer collectors than WWE) If the set fails, this is completely on Mattel. I could not agree more, I hope Mattel knows that the raw stage would have been way more popular and would have been funded by now I think that's a comical assumption given that it would cost more than the Nitro Stage... |
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Apr 8, 2023 8:36:50 GMT -5
I could not agree more, I hope Mattel knows that the raw stage would have been way more popular and would have been funded by now I think that's a comical assumption given that it would cost more than the Nitro Stage... That is the consensus but I don't necessarily see that having to be the case. I mean, Yeah, it's taller, but it just seems there's more to the Nitro stage. I always thought it was flashier back during the Late 90s. |
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 8, 2023 8:41:12 GMT -5
I think the Irish and Australians are able to order in USD though, so it'd be interesting to know how their orders performed compared to the New Gen arena. I'm Irish and we're paying in Euro, too. I don't know why they list France, Germany, Italy, Spain, etc. when they could just have put "European Union", as the price is the same for all anyway.
For Ireland it's €560 posted, which is $615. To be totally honest, people are complaining a lot about the cost of it and customs, etc. but it's not that bad, really. The international issue has been way overblown. I don't care for WCW so I was never planning to back it, but just out of nosiness I went through a third-party website to see what way I could get it to me cheaper, and it worked out that I could save about €40 ($44) if I used a third party freight-forwarder (and that included asking them to reduce the value of the set to $100 on postage forms, to save on customs fees).
So, although people are saying that the International customers are being fleeced, we're not. We're just paying all the fees up-front instead of at time of delivery (which, in theory, should smoothen out the delivery process).
Thanks for that - I had heard from an Irish collector that they were getting access to the pure USD price and a higher shipping price added at check-out (as Mattel weren't adding the shipping surcharge to the headline price for them, but rather to the shipping charge itself) but seems we misunderstood each other  |
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Post by xwmikey on Apr 8, 2023 8:51:06 GMT -5
I tried backing this a couple of times, but my credit card wouldn't work each time I attempted it.
I wonder how many other people had that issue?
I -think- it may have worked eventually, but never got an email confirmation, and won't actually know until it gets backed and it comes up on the card.
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Post by RedDevil on Apr 8, 2023 8:53:29 GMT -5
I tried backing this a couple of times, but my credit card wouldn't work each time I attempted it. I wonder how many other people had that issue? I -think- it may have worked eventually, but never got an email confirmation, and won't actually know until it gets backed and it comes up on the card. Have you checked your Mattel Creations online account? Mine is listed there as a preorder. |
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Post by xwmikey on Apr 8, 2023 8:55:38 GMT -5
I tried backing this a couple of times, but my credit card wouldn't work each time I attempted it. I wonder how many other people had that issue? I -think- it may have worked eventually, but never got an email confirmation, and won't actually know until it gets backed and it comes up on the card. Have you checked your Mattel Creations online account? Mine is listed there as a preorder. Sure have! It didn't show up. Realistically, worst case, I wind up missing it, and avoid the home heat for buying something I don't have the space for haha |
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Apr 8, 2023 9:03:47 GMT -5
2000 backers is solid for a weeks notice...those 2000 should still get Hogan. We wont. Mattel doesn't operate like that. MAYBE if it was another company, but Mattel isn't going to get that one to us. A lot of times it's sadly like getting blood from a stone to get them to make sought after stuff. And that is not an indictment on Steve or Bill. I think a lot of that has to do with the power structure in Mattel. They are more traditional and corporate. It’s crazy because Hot Wheels have treasure hunts and super hunts and had all kind of send it offers which were all limited things |
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Post by Bramahummel on Apr 8, 2023 9:04:58 GMT -5
I'm Irish and we're paying in Euro, too. I don't know why they list France, Germany, Italy, Spain, etc. when they could just have put "European Union", as the price is the same for all anyway.
For Ireland it's €560 posted, which is $615. To be totally honest, people are complaining a lot about the cost of it and customs, etc. but it's not that bad, really. The international issue has been way overblown. I don't care for WCW so I was never planning to back it, but just out of nosiness I went through a third-party website to see what way I could get it to me cheaper, and it worked out that I could save about €40 ($44) if I used a third party freight-forwarder (and that included asking them to reduce the value of the set to $100 on postage forms, to save on customs fees).
So, although people are saying that the International customers are being fleeced, we're not. We're just paying all the fees up-front instead of at time of delivery (which, in theory, should smoothen out the delivery process).
Thanks for that - I had heard from an Irish collector that they were getting access to the pure USD price and a higher shipping price added at check-out (as Mattel weren't adding the shipping surcharge to the headline price for them, but rather to the shipping charge itself) but seems we misunderstood each other Because its right. Austria is paying 400 Dollars plus 35 shipping too. All countries not listed on the website are paying in Dollars. Ireland too |
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Post by newgenandy on Apr 8, 2023 9:08:14 GMT -5
We wont. Mattel doesn't operate like that. MAYBE if it was another company, but Mattel isn't going to get that one to us. A lot of times it's sadly like getting blood from a stone to get them to make sought after stuff. And that is not an indictment on Steve or Bill. I think a lot of that has to do with the power structure in Mattel. They are more traditional and corporate. It’s crazy because Hot Wheels have treasure hunts and super hunts and had all kind of send it offers which were all limited things Hot wheels are a first party mattel owned company. That’s why they’ll do more for them, barbie etc |
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Apr 8, 2023 9:15:23 GMT -5
2,001 backers. 27 days left. We need an average of 112 buyers a day to push us just beyond the 5,000 mark. And that seems like a tall task to get that many buyers each day.
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Apr 8, 2023 9:17:52 GMT -5
It's like, since I backed it, I'm feeling more invested in it now...but sadly, looking at everything so far and the rollout of it, I'm not getting my hopes up, because I talked myself into plunking down the money in the first place. Like, I don't want to be stuck with just a giant hulking stage and a really Mid Rey figure.
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Post by rastlinfigures on Apr 8, 2023 9:20:46 GMT -5
For those who have backed already, would you be content with just Rey and the stage? No, I can’t justify the price with a mediocre figure and just the stage … no matter how many lights it has. |
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 8, 2023 9:21:59 GMT -5
It’s crazy because Hot Wheels have treasure hunts and super hunts and had all kind of send it offers which were all limited things Hot wheels are a first party mattel owned company. That’s why they’ll do more for them, barbie etc A lot of people don't realize this. In Mattel's earnings and financials, brands like Hot Wheels and Barbie have their expenses and revenues reported in their own category - they make up that much of the organizations annual revenue. Brands like WWE fall into a final "other brands/properties" category. |
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Post by aggressiveperfector on Apr 8, 2023 9:23:29 GMT -5
Hot wheels are a first party mattel owned company. That’s why they’ll do more for them, barbie etc A lot of people don't realize this. In Mattel's earnings and financials, brands like Hot Wheels and Barbie have their expenses and revenues reported in their own category - they make up that much of the organizations annual revenue. Brands like WWE fall into a final "other brands/properties" category. Exactly, that's why they don't get the freedom the aforementioned lines do. |
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Post by newgenandy on Apr 8, 2023 9:34:14 GMT -5
A lot of people don't realize this. In Mattel's earnings and financials, brands like Hot Wheels and Barbie have their expenses and revenues reported in their own category - they make up that much of the organizations annual revenue. Brands like WWE fall into a final "other brands/properties" category. Exactly, that's why they don't get the freedom the aforementioned lines do. Or the amount of push Barbie they keep 100% wwe they’d have to share profits so makes sense to concentrate on your big hitters |
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Post by Flair Forever on Apr 8, 2023 9:36:52 GMT -5
Honestly, I’m getting to where I could care less about this thing. The lack of promotion and advertisement just make me feel like, as a consumer, that Mattel really care about this either. Bear in mind, I’ve backed four of these. With the New Gen set (backed 4 also), Steve and the team were everywhere. It was advertised everywhere and talked about on multiple platforms. With this, it’s been announced and then not mix since then other than a pointless stream video with incoherent rambling from Page, and then an IG video. I get it was wrestlemania week and all, but first impression are everything and right out of the gate it seems like this has been snake bitten. Maybe I’ll be proven wrong and it gets backed - we get Rey and the stage. Forget about DDP, Scott, and Warrior. Maybe we will get them as elite. Hogans already done for. Unless there’s a pivot done on this stage I think it’s all but done. May will be the final mail in the coffin. My mindset is similar to yours; although I do think it will limp across the 5000 line in May and get backed (barely).... Yeah I think Wrestlemania Week was the WRONG week to roll this out; over 80,000 fans (at least) were already spending "wrestling money" on travel.... tickets..... food..... car rental..... gas.... souvenirs.... t-shirts........AXXESS.... Wrestlecon/autographs/indy shows, all the other NON-WWE events that week..... ADD TO THAT all the other new reveals and pre-orders that went up quite literally less than 48 hours after the Nitro Crowd-Fund started...... the hardcore wrestling fans minds (and wallets) were just blown; Really think about it..... 80,000 fans went to Wrestlemania and spent big bucks. I can't imagine anyone spending less than $600-$1000 on a Wrestlemania experience; If just 3500 of them had backed this thing we'd be ahead of the game and fully funded (and possibly on our way to the next tiers). This might have done better if it was presented during one of the MANY slower periods for wrestling (and wrestling-figure) fans & collectors. Wrestlemania week was the wrong week to ask fans for another $400. But I've decided that the figures don't really matter. It's about the stage, and we're approaching half-way - - - I am starting to feel that this will probably (barely) get funded & made - and that's what's important, I think...... But damn I really would have loved the whole figure-package! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2023 9:44:11 GMT -5
I don't want to be stuck with just a giant hulking stage and a really Mid Rey figure. And that’s why I won’t back it until I feel like I’m getting my monies worth out of it. I’d be punching myself in the face if I spent $400+ on a stage I have no room to display and anything less than Mysterio/DDP/Steiner. |
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Post by oldschoolfool on Apr 8, 2023 9:51:34 GMT -5
Honestly, I’m getting to where I could care less about this thing. The lack of promotion and advertisement just make me feel like, as a consumer, that Mattel really care about this either. Bear in mind, I’ve backed four of these. With the New Gen set (backed 4 also), Steve and the team were everywhere. It was advertised everywhere and talked about on multiple platforms. With this, it’s been announced and then not mix since then other than a pointless stream video with incoherent rambling from Page, and then an IG video. I get it was wrestlemania week and all, but first impression are everything and right out of the gate it seems like this has been snake bitten. Maybe I’ll be proven wrong and it gets backed - we get Rey and the stage. Forget about DDP, Scott, and Warrior. Maybe we will get them as elite. Hogans already done for. Unless there’s a pivot done on this stage I think it’s all but done. May will be the final mail in the coffin. My mindset is similar to yours; although I do think it will limp across the 5000 line in May and get backed (barely).... Yeah I think Wrestlemania Week was the WRONG week to roll this out; over 80,000 fans (at least) were already spending "wrestling money" on travel.... tickets..... food..... car rental..... gas.... souvenirs.... t-shirts........AXXESS.... Wrestlecon/autographs/indy shows, all the other NON-WWE events that week..... ADD TO THAT all the other new reveals and pre-orders that went up quite literally less than 48 hours after the Nitro Crowd-Fund started...... the hardcore wrestling fans minds (and wallets) were just blown; Really think about it..... 80,000 fans went to Wrestlemania and spent big bucks. I can't imagine anyone spending less than $600-$1000 on a Wrestlemania experience; If just 3500 of them had backed this thing we'd be ahead of the game and fully funded (and possibly on our way to the next tiers). This might have done better if it was presented during one of the MANY slower periods for wrestling (and wrestling-figure) fans & collectors. Wrestlemania week was the wrong week to ask fans for another $400. But I've decided that the figures don't really matter. It's about the stage, and we're approaching half-way - - - I am starting to feel that this will probably (barely) get funded & made - and that's what's important, I think...... But damn I really would have loved the whole figure-package! People were saying SDCC was the wrong time for the new gen ring and wrestlemania would be better (which i agree with, lots of eyes on wrestling during that period and income tax return time). If they did it in the fall, people would say its bad timing because of the holidays, etc. So, yeah, i dont know, maybe there never really is an ideal time to get people to part with a large amount of money over a non-essential item. |
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I dont know good luck 
