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Post by J-MANN on Apr 9, 2023 18:12:02 GMT -5
I started watching wrestling when I was 8 years old, and that was at the end of 1999 in the Attitude Era. I remember watching the first hour of Nitro and then switching over to Raw every Monday. I’m not the biggest WCW guy because I wasn’t watching for most of it. However I did enjoy their last couple years.
For me personally, if Hogan was added in with Rey I would no doubt go ahead and back this project. I love the possibility of items like this and want to continue having them made available to us. I want as many Ultimates as we can get.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2023 18:12:46 GMT -5
Hope you're doing OK, and that the stress of the situation isn't too heavy on you. I also thought this stage was the right choice, which is why I backed it. Real shame it went this way. I’ll be fine. The beauty of a crowdfund is that it allows you to take chances while reducing some of the risk. If the people decide this isn’t something they ultimately want, then so be it. It’d be a bummer for sure for those that wanted a scale stage to not have this but it is what it is. Pardon my French here because while I do follow you on insta, we haven’t formally talked at all. I’ve been burned by your company in the past, SEVERAL times. Yet I keep coming back to this stuff. I keep making art with this because the stuff is still cool. I didn’t back the first crowd fund as I didn’t have the money and wasn’t too comfortable then with that much money being on the table for so long. Since then, I have and I also got the NGA from someone I follow who sold it to me at a good enough price without the figures. I admittedly didn’t have faith in this at first until I saw there was going to be a ring made. I then sold my Analogue Pocket and put in my money. Not just because of that but also to be part of something as my health hasn’t been the greatest physical or mental and needed something to look forward to and help with. The fact that we are all, especially YOU, giving up on this with so much time left sickens me. I don’t give a damn, I don’t want to hear excuses, MAKE THIS RIGHT. You have PLENTY OF TIME to fix this campaign. These people aren’t to blame and while I’m disheartened to hear about all the people wanting to pass this up, I completely understand. If I was in your position, I’d be doing everything possible to make this happen. Not just because of the possibilities (a RAW IS WAR stage anyone) but also because you’d be making at the very most 4.4 MILLION DOLLARS for Mattel with this. Now, I have a few suggestions that I believe will help. Make the Hogan and Rey for EVERYONE, lower the tiers for Steiner, DDP, and Warrior, fix and apologize for overcharging the international shipping. Give something for the initial 2,000 that believed in this enough to back it. This whole thing is starting to sound like NORAD sounding the alarm about a nuclear war when it’s just JOSHUA playing a War Game. It’s not over, FAR FROM IT. But your attitude of “what else do you expect me to do” is not helping. People have TOLD you what you can do and it seems rather feasible. They aren’t asking for more, just to make it easier and more worth their time to back it. Remember, you NEED them to back this, they DON’T NEED to give you money nor to keep their pledge. If you don’t fix this campaign soon, not only WILL it be dead in the water, but more people are going to walk. You are what you wish and right now it seems like you’re manifesting it to fail. We are your customers, we want to see this happen as much as you do, but give us reasons to instead of making excuses because last I checked, this campaign was for a month, not for one week…..
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Apr 9, 2023 18:21:50 GMT -5
Still think that they should have made macho man the bonus instead of hogan I doubt that would’ve made a difference. People have complained about every single figure offered, with the fewest complaints relating to Steiner (and those are basically just attire choice). Lots of people want the Hogan, and there’s already 950 Ultimate cowboy Macho in tights figures with more on the way. Unless there’s thousands of Macho completionists you’d likely be trading the same problem for the same problem. I feel like the main reason this didn’t get to 5k already is the hit that many overseas collectors are (rightfully) not willing to take. Another problem that most aren’t talking about is that lots of people bought multiple New Gen Arenas thinking that they’d become millionaires by reselling them and that just didn’t happen. (Remember the Steiner Math ‘dood, if you don’t want it, buy two. The Macho alone will pay for the entire cost on the secondary market? Pepperidge Farm remembers.) The stage set is awesome the way it is, and would’ve been worthwhile. People who think that they have the magic bullet will debate until the cows come home. Regardless of what armchair toy designers/marketers think Mattel know what they’re doing. I mean a new cowboy macho with soft goods would’ve been a lot better that an almost rerelease like that hogan.
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Post by Action Figure Attack on Apr 9, 2023 18:24:15 GMT -5
I’ll be fine. The beauty of a crowdfund is that it allows you to take chances while reducing some of the risk. If the people decide this isn’t something they ultimately want, then so be it. It’d be a bummer for sure for those that wanted a scale stage to not have this but it is what it is. Pardon my French here because while I do follow you on insta, we haven’t formally talked at all. I’ve been burned by your company in the past, SEVERAL times. Yet I keep coming back to this stuff. I keep making art with this because the stuff is still cool. I didn’t back the first crowd fund as I didn’t have the money and wasn’t too comfortable then with that much money being on the table for so long. Since then, I have and I also got the NGA from someone I follow who sold it to me at a good enough price without the figures. I admittedly didn’t have faith in this at first until I saw there was going to be a ring made. I then sold my Analogue Pocket and put in my money. Not just because of that but also to be part of something as my health hasn’t been the greatest physical or mental and needed something to look forward to and help with. The fact that we are all, especially YOU, giving up on this with so much time left sickens me. I don’t give a damn, I don’t want to hear excuses, MAKE THIS RIGHT. You have PLENTY OF TIME to fix this campaign. These people aren’t to blame and while I’m disheartened to hear about all the people wanting to pass this up, I completely understand. If I was in your position, I’d be doing everything possible to make this happen. Not just because of the possibilities (a RAW IS WAR stage anyone) but also because you’d be making at the very most 4.4 MILLION DOLLARS for Mattel with this. Now, I have a few suggestions that I believe will help. Make the Hogan and Rey for EVERYONE, lower the tiers for Steiner, DDP, and Warrior, fix and apologize for overcharging the international shipping. Give something for the initial 2,000 that believed in this enough to back it. This whole thing is starting to sound like NORAD sounding the alarm about a nuclear war when it’s just JOSHUA playing a War Game. It’s not over, FAR FROM IT. But your attitude of “what else do you expect me to do” is not helping. People have TOLD you what you can do and it seems rather feasible. They aren’t asking for more, just to make it easier and more worth their time to back it. Remember, you NEED them to back this, they DON’T NEED to give you money nor to keep their pledge. If you don’t fix this campaign soon, not only WILL it be dead in the water, but more people are going to walk. You are what you wish and right now it seems like you’re manifesting it to fail. We are your customers, we want to see this happen as much as you do, but give us reasons to instead of making excuses because last I checked, this campaign was for a month, not for one week….. I don’t recall saying I or anyone on my side of things have given up. The fact that I’m still here on Easter Sunday interacting with all of you about this should make that crystal clear. And I think what you’re insinuating about my attitude is a stretch. If anything I’m fishing for better potential solutions, if anything can even be changed. Like me questioning if adding Hogan back is really the best idea. It’s been just over a week. We’ve got about a month left to get to the finish line.
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Post by #Heel on Apr 9, 2023 18:27:06 GMT -5
I’m hoping I don’t get banned for speaking my opinion on this but it’s easy to blame the collector. Did people say they wanted this? Yeah but people say they want many things until the price comes into play. I don’t think many found the value in this set for $400 and the figure choices were poor. Starting with Rey at 5K & then Hogan as the early backer bonus was not the way to go.
I also personally feel a little wronged as a collector because for the New Generation one (which I did want) we were told back that to get what a lot of really wanted (Raw Is War) and then this crowd fund was Nitro instead. I also lost interest when it was confirmed Raw Is War would cost more. I’m sorry but I can’t justify the cost of a PS5 for an LED stage that I also don’t even have room for and that’s assuming the RAW stage is $500. It could be $600 or maybe $700.
I think people want these things but I don’t think they want them for the price offered. If the cost can’t be brought down for RAW or Nitro I don’t see much of a demand for either one. The figure choices are also really important and the choices for this crowd fund were just underwhelming.
Furthermore I don’t want to keep buying rings and would have preferred an expansion back to turn Raw into Nitro. I can’t store 3 Mattel rings (plus two Jazwares rings) and two huge stages. I just don’t have the room.
I also think it isn’t doing well because most WCW fans stopped watching wrestling over 20 years ago.
If another crowd fund ever happens, it would be helpful to get the presumed price along with the expected figures to see if people truly want the item or have an interest in the entire product at that price point.
The New Generation arena succeeded because you really can’t argue that a ring, light up stage, 3 Ultimate Editions, an announce table, ring skirts, and an extra backdrop diorama wasn’t worth $250. It absolutely was and the tiers were fair enough to unlock and with figures people had an interest in.
Just my take on the entire thing.
EDIT: I also want to note that while no one from Mattel directly said Raw Is War was next on many podcasts pretty much everyone (Mattel included) would nod their head to back the New Generation Arena to get other items we want (Raw Is War being the most popular). So getting a Raw is War ring then a Nitro stage it was a disconnect.
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Apr 9, 2023 18:34:09 GMT -5
Steve, just wanted to say this while I can. Thanks for all you do for us members here and even bothering to hop on here on EASTER SUNDAY of all days haha I assure you that it doesn’t go unnoticed by lord of members.
Hopeful for this crowdfund and hoping it’ll cross the finish line, and/or there is a way to do something with the current offering to hopefully drive in more backers.
Best wishes to you and yours, Steve!
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Post by Action Figure Attack on Apr 9, 2023 18:38:02 GMT -5
I’m hoping I don’t get banned for speaking my opinion on this but it’s easy to blame the collector. Did people say they wanted this? Yeah but people say they want many things until the price comes into play. I don’t think many found the value in this set for $400 and the figure choices were poor. Starting with Rey at 5K & then Hogan as the early backer bonus was not the way to go. I also personally feel a little wronged as a collector because for the New Generation one (which I did want) we were told back that to get what a lot of really wanted (Raw Is War) and then this crowd fund was Nitro instead. I also lost interest when it was confirmed Raw Is War would cost more. I’m sorry but I can’t justify the cost of a PS5 for an LED stage that I also don’t even have room fot and that’s assuming the RAW stage is $500. It could be $600 or maybe $700. I think people want these things but I don’t think they want them for the price offered. If the cost can’t be brought down for RAW or Nitro I don’t see much of a demand for either one. The figure choices are also really important and the choices for this crowd fund were just underwhelming. Furthermore I don’t want to keep buying rings and would have preferred an expansion back to turn Raw into Nitro. I can’t store 3 Mattel rings (plus two Jazwares rings) and two huge stages. I just don’t have the room. I also think it isn’t doing well because most WCW fans stopped watching wrestling over 20 years ago. If another crowd fund ever happens, it would be helpful to get the presumed price along with the expected figures to see if people truly want the item or have an interest in the entire product at that price point. The New Generation arena succeeded because you really can’t argue that a ring, light up stage, 3 Ultimate Editions, an announce table, ring skirts, and an extra backdrop diorama wasn’t worth $250. It absolutely was and the tiers were fair enough to unlock and with figures people had an interest in. Just my take on the entire thing. I’m definitely not blaming the collector. The crowdfund campaign is the test to see if the item should become a reality. It’s just a few steps beyond all that work that needs to happen to get the cost anyway so even if we just asked “do you want the Nitro stage at $400?”, the bulk of the upfront work would have been done. I’ve addressed the rings/add-ons/conversions many times. I think I did a pretty good job giving details on the aic podcast (@aic_podcast on IG) dropping on the 10th if you want to take the time to listen. I know you want conversion kits and I want to get there. It’s just not realistic at this moment in time. I know some would have preferred the RAW stage first but if you think there was backlash at $400 for Nitro, what would have happened with RAW having to be even more expensive. Nitro first allows us to get some potential shared tooling banked so RAW can be less expensive and have a bit less sticker shock. And I fully don’t expect every single consumer to buy both. Will there be some overlap? Sure. But ultimately, buy what you want to buy. So really, do we as a collective community want the stage given the realities of the price? We’ll see in a month.
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Post by J-MANN on Apr 9, 2023 18:38:17 GMT -5
Steve, just wanted to say this while I can. Thanks for all you do for us members here and even bothering to hop on here on EASTER SUNDAY of all days haha I assure you that it doesn’t go unnoticed by lord of members. Hopeful for this crowdfund and hoping it’ll cross the finish line, and/or there is a way to do something with the current offering to hopefully drive in more backers. Best wishes to you and yours, Steve! I second this.
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Post by WalterF on Apr 9, 2023 18:38:42 GMT -5
Lots of opinions but there are a million different opinions on how this could have been done. The stage is a thing of beauty and it's cool to even have this thing possibly produced. I backed three of the New Gen set because New Gen is my nostalgia sweet spot. I didn't back this but only because WCW of this era doesn't have the weight the WWF set did as WWF was my jam back then. I hope this gets backed and I still think there is a good chance atlwast the stage and Rey will.be made.
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Post by hiitsbrian on Apr 9, 2023 18:39:05 GMT -5
Still think that they should have made macho man the bonus instead of hogan I doubt that would’ve made a difference. People have complained about every single figure offered, with the fewest complaints relating to Steiner (and those are basically just attire choice). Lots of people want the Hogan, and there’s already 950 Ultimate cowboy Macho in tights figures with more on the way. Unless there’s thousands of Macho completionists you’d likely be trading the same problem for the same problem. I feel like the main reason this didn’t get to 5k already is the hit that many overseas collectors are (rightfully) not willing to take. Another problem that most aren’t talking about is that lots of people bought multiple New Gen Arenas thinking that they’d become millionaires by reselling them and that just didn’t happen. (Remember the Steiner Math ‘dood, if you don’t want it, buy two. The Macho alone will pay for the entire cost on the secondary market? Pepperidge Farm remembers.) The stage set is awesome the way it is, and would’ve been worthwhile. People who think that they have the magic bullet will debate until the cows come home. Regardless of what armchair toy designers/marketers think Mattel know what they’re doing. I 100% would’ve been in if the early bird had been an exclusive Savage. Or even that Warrior. It’s not that you need thousands or completionists. Just thousands of fans of a guy not willing to pass out on an exclusive figure with a UNIQUE look.
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Post by mcfclee on Apr 9, 2023 18:39:11 GMT -5
Guys Steve coming into this thread is the best chance we have of finding any sort of way to get this set funded. Please for those of us who want this, don’t chase him out by being jerks.
Steve - I’ve backed it and the stage is the main thing for me, but I totally get the push back on figure choices. I personally don’t need Rey, Hulk or DDP as they are all too similar to figures I own.
I also don’t think I have the magic solution either or want to take shots, but if there’s any tricks up your sleeve, please play them so this thing makes it. I’m over the moon you guys went this way and appreciate the effort none the less.
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Post by Ministry of Darkness on Apr 9, 2023 18:41:25 GMT -5
The figure choices and who is available to Mattel that was from that time period in Nitro was the best Mattel could do. I just think the Nitro stage shouldn't have been released if guys like Sting, Flair, Giant or even Jericho wasn't available to Mattel to use to push this crowdfund. I'm not sure if the above former WCW talent would have made much difference but you wouldn't be getting the same old Hogan and Warrior figures.
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Post by hiitsbrian on Apr 9, 2023 18:44:44 GMT -5
The figure choices and who is available to Mattel that was from that time period in Nitro was the best Mattel could do. I just think the Nitro stage shouldn't have been released if guys like Sting, Flair, Giant or even Jericho wasn't available to Mattel to use to push this crowdfund. I'm not sure if the above former WCW talent would have made much difference but you wouldn't be getting the same old Hogan and Warrior figures. Leave Warrior out of this. He wasn’t same old. We don’t have a Warrior that looks anything like it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2023 18:46:41 GMT -5
Pardon my French here because while I do follow you on insta, we haven’t formally talked at all. I’ve been burned by your company in the past, SEVERAL times. Yet I keep coming back to this stuff. I keep making art with this because the stuff is still cool. I didn’t back the first crowd fund as I didn’t have the money and wasn’t too comfortable then with that much money being on the table for so long. Since then, I have and I also got the NGA from someone I follow who sold it to me at a good enough price without the figures. I admittedly didn’t have faith in this at first until I saw there was going to be a ring made. I then sold my Analogue Pocket and put in my money. Not just because of that but also to be part of something as my health hasn’t been the greatest physical or mental and needed something to look forward to and help with. The fact that we are all, especially YOU, giving up on this with so much time left sickens me. I don’t give a damn, I don’t want to hear excuses, MAKE THIS RIGHT. You have PLENTY OF TIME to fix this campaign. These people aren’t to blame and while I’m disheartened to hear about all the people wanting to pass this up, I completely understand. If I was in your position, I’d be doing everything possible to make this happen. Not just because of the possibilities (a RAW IS WAR stage anyone) but also because you’d be making at the very most 4.4 MILLION DOLLARS for Mattel with this. Now, I have a few suggestions that I believe will help. Make the Hogan and Rey for EVERYONE, lower the tiers for Steiner, DDP, and Warrior, fix and apologize for overcharging the international shipping. Give something for the initial 2,000 that believed in this enough to back it. This whole thing is starting to sound like NORAD sounding the alarm about a nuclear war when it’s just JOSHUA playing a War Game. It’s not over, FAR FROM IT. But your attitude of “what else do you expect me to do” is not helping. People have TOLD you what you can do and it seems rather feasible. They aren’t asking for more, just to make it easier and more worth their time to back it. Remember, you NEED them to back this, they DON’T NEED to give you money nor to keep their pledge. If you don’t fix this campaign soon, not only WILL it be dead in the water, but more people are going to walk. You are what you wish and right now it seems like you’re manifesting it to fail. We are your customers, we want to see this happen as much as you do, but give us reasons to instead of making excuses because last I checked, this campaign was for a month, not for one week….. I don’t recall saying I or anyone on my side of things have given up. The fact that I’m still here on Easter Sunday interacting with all of you about this should make that crystal clear. And I think what you’re insinuating about my attitude is a stretch. If anything I’m fishing for better potential solutions, if anything can even be changed. Like me questioning if adding Hogan back is really the best idea. It’s been just over a week. We’ve got about a month left to get to the finish line. If I misread your earlier comments, my fault. Completely sorry about that. I read the whole “it is what it is” as a sign you may have been looking to give up already. For me, where there is a will there’s a way and I don’t want to see this fail nor do I really want to hear any talk as such. There’s still a lot of time to fix things and there are other ideas I have but I know for a fact they aren’t feasible. You have more power than us in this situation and I know you could do something to help this pass and get more people to back it. I just want to see it happen, and NOT by the way to have a live stream with Sam Roberts (who by the by I’ve heard a few stories about but that isn’t for this thread) and DDP doing the whole “back in my day” old man thing that I’m sure just put more people to sleep than it did getting folks excited to back this thing. One thing that most definitely should be done is to adjust the international shipping and price as reading these comments, a lot of your international crowd feels like they’ve been left out and got the short end of the stick. We’d see an immediate pop with Hogan as a permanent addition, lower tiers, and especially that international price fixed. The international fix alone I’m sure would put us near or over the 5,000 mark. My insta and Twitter is the same as my username here. I’d love to be able to interact more and to try to help if I can.
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Post by Action Figure Attack on Apr 9, 2023 18:47:54 GMT -5
The figure choices and who is available to Mattel that was from that time period in Nitro was the best Mattel could do. I just think the Nitro stage shouldn't have been released if guys like Sting, Flair, Giant or even Jericho wasn't available to Mattel to use to push this crowdfund. I'm not sure if the above former WCW talent would have made much difference but you wouldn't be getting the same old Hogan and Warrior figures. Leave Warrior out of this. He wasn’t same old. We don’t have a Warrior that looks anything like it. I bet if we announced that Warrior as a MNW or Legends Ultimate on its own, people would have gone nuts for it. Being in a lineup of figures where you have to potentially get them all and unlock them left this open to a lot of debate and extra scrutiny.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2023 18:48:38 GMT -5
Guys Steve coming into this thread is the best chance we have of finding any sort of way to get this set funded. Please for those of us who want this, don’t chase him out by being jerks. Steve - I’ve backed it and the stage is the main thing for me, but I totally get the push back on figure choices. I personally don’t need Rey, Hulk or DDP as they are all too similar to figures I own. I also don’t think I have the magic solution either or want to take shots, but if there’s any tricks up your sleeve, please play them so this thing makes it. I’m over the moon you guys went this way and appreciate the effort none the less. I know and that’s why I want to try to help. I don’t want him to give up, I want better solutions, but also I don’t want anyone giving up either with so much time left. We can do this. We really can. We just need to fix how we get there is all.
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Post by Action Figure Attack on Apr 9, 2023 18:51:20 GMT -5
I don’t recall saying I or anyone on my side of things have given up. The fact that I’m still here on Easter Sunday interacting with all of you about this should make that crystal clear. And I think what you’re insinuating about my attitude is a stretch. If anything I’m fishing for better potential solutions, if anything can even be changed. Like me questioning if adding Hogan back is really the best idea. It’s been just over a week. We’ve got about a month left to get to the finish line. If I misread your earlier comments, my fault. Completely sorry about that. I read the whole “it is what it is” as a sign you may have been looking to give up already. For me, where there is a will there’s a way and I don’t want to see this fail nor do I really want to hear any talk as such. There’s still a lot of time to fix things and there are other ideas I have but I know for a fact they aren’t feasible. You have more power than us in this situation and I know you could do something to help this pass and get more people to back it. I just want to see it happen, and NOT by the way to have a live stream with Sam Roberts (who by the by I’ve heard a few stories about but that isn’t for this thread) and DDP doing the whole “back in my day” old man thing that I’m sure just put more people to sleep than it did getting folks excited to back this thing. One thing that most definitely should be done is to adjust the international shipping and price as reading these comments, a lot of your international crowd feels like they’ve been left out and got the short end of the stick. We’d see an immediate pop with Hogan as a permanent addition, lower tiers, and especially that international price fixed. The international fix alone I’m sure would put us near or over the 5,000 mark. My insta and Twitter is the same as my username here. I’d love to be able to interact more and to try to help if I can. It is what it is is me not getting bent out of shape if this ultimately doesn’t fund. Gotta keep a level head here. I’ve passed on all international comments to the MC team. It’s a bit out of my hands other than following up with the regularly and advising. Hogan added back…yes, it’s better than no Hogan but is that the best solution? I’m just not sure.
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Post by Ministry of Darkness on Apr 9, 2023 18:51:25 GMT -5
The figure choices and who is available to Mattel that was from that time period in Nitro was the best Mattel could do. I just think the Nitro stage shouldn't have been released if guys like Sting, Flair, Giant or even Jericho wasn't available to Mattel to use to push this crowdfund. I'm not sure if the above former WCW talent would have made much difference but you wouldn't be getting the same old Hogan and Warrior figures. Leave Warrior out of this. He wasn’t same old. We don’t have a Warrior that looks anything like it. Warrior has had alot of Ultimates so far in its short history. Do we really need another Warrior or even Hogan?
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Apr 9, 2023 18:51:31 GMT -5
Steve, I love how much you care and how much you give back to us. Like you said, the fact you’re here on Easter says a lot. Would there be anyway you could either switch the figures around by tier or maybe add something? One of the problems in my opinion is the selection of figures. I believe this should be niche figures that might not sell a ton in the ultimate line other wise. Much like Doink. Rey will get his releases further down, Hogan has had like 3 already, DDP is ok. Steiner will also move some units but again you throw a Warrior who has at least 3 releases also. Maybe a Jimmy Hart or a Flair with a robe
also.I know there’s a payment plan and what not but what about maybe a Better drawn out one and advertise that more. I am just throwing these two ideas out
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Post by matgarza5 on Apr 9, 2023 18:52:03 GMT -5
So here is my thought on how Mattel can pull this out. I know they don't want to 'go back on their word' with the Early Bird, but if they want to spike this (at least a little bit) - just add Hogan to the basis. If you get 5,001 total backers, you get the Stage, Hogan, and Rey. That is the same that would happen If they hit 5,000 on Friday, and no more backed, so add Hogan to the basic set, and let's see how that changes things. I truly have no idea how things could potentially evolve if at all but would this exact scenario really move the needle after all the initial backlash on that particular figure? You the man Steve got total respect for you coming on this forum and bringing up what might help the needle move. I think keeping the Hogan for all backers is a good idea. Maybe the best Idea would be moving Big Poppa Pump to the “special early bird” cause ALOT of people want that figure more than any other figure in the offering. I backed 3 personally and will back 2 more. We need this stage it’s a wonderful piece. Thank you for taking your time to see what we think. Steiner being moved up to a special early bird or 5k will get this backed.
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