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Post by Rocket_Fuel_Merchant on Apr 9, 2023 23:24:38 GMT -5
Generally between $150-$200 sealed...you're generally looking at ~$100 loose They can be had for less if you're patient, I got mine for less a few months ago, but that's generally what you're looking at Wow.. It's probably going to get re-released since Mattel enjoys doing that these days. would support that 100%...would buy another |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2023 23:29:57 GMT -5
I will admit the jokes about that book were kind of funny though. I would rather people save up to get the WCW ring than buy my book ...  . but if you like Burt Reynolds - I think one would appreciate the stories! I was blessed to know him for 32 years. One fun wrestling chapter in the book with tons of pics ... But if people don't believe me I could care less. I was just sharing a story and my insight for those who cared ... the rest is a lot of negative noise that I feel so bad for Steve that he has to deal with. Bill left because of it. Isn't also against this forum's policy to attack people, troll etc ... whatever ... Support the WCW SET! TELL me about it. I think I do remember you, but I’m not completely sure. |
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Post by nikostoybox on Apr 9, 2023 23:36:46 GMT -5
Damn is this a crowdfund thread or attack Steve thread?
Google injection mould costs. Imagine that for new parts of new figures.
If the Mattel team were able to i am sure they would change things but at the days end this is business and this stage alone is worth every cent
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Post by CM Tusk on Apr 9, 2023 23:41:55 GMT -5
Generally between $150-$200 sealed...you're generally looking at ~$100 loose They can be had for less if you're patient, I got mine for less a few months ago, but that's generally what you're looking at Wow.. It's probably going to get re-released since Mattel enjoys doing that these days. As it should. |
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Post by Biff Slamkovich™ on Apr 9, 2023 23:52:50 GMT -5
I just got around to reading Steve's replies and some of the suggestions from members here.
This is the kind of thread that made Bill leave Wfigs. Some of you should be able to realize how ridiculous your suggestions are.
As I've personally stated earlier in the thread, I can't justify $800 CAD for a stage and likely one figure. If everything was included for the price then I'd be willing to bite the bullet though, but that's not going to happen and that's why I can't back this.
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Post by peterjp2 on Apr 10, 2023 0:17:45 GMT -5
As I've personally stated earlier in the thread, I can't justify $800 CAD for a stage and likely one figure. If everything was included for the price then I'd be willing to bite the bullet though, but that's not going to happen and that's why I can't back this. That's exactly it. Close to $800 CAD hanging around for over a year for the stage and UE Rey is not enough value for me either. |
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Post by figuremania99 on Apr 10, 2023 0:32:05 GMT -5
So here is my thought on how Mattel can pull this out. I know they don't want to 'go back on their word' with the Early Bird, but if they want to spike this (at least a little bit) - just add Hogan to the basis. If you get 5,001 total backers, you get the Stage, Hogan, and Rey. That is the same that would happen If they hit 5,000 on Friday, and no more backed, so add Hogan to the basic set, and let's see how that changes things. I truly have no idea how things could potentially evolve if at all but would this exact scenario really move the needle after all the initial backlash on that particular figure? Why not: 1) Re-enable the Hulk Hogan but as a limited run of 1/5000? If you are skeptical on HH then make it Scott Steiner which most people want. 2) If you can’t fix the international orders paying all customs & taxes (no idea why Mattel wouldn’t revert this to what it was before), then you have to add a buy now pay later option like Klarna for international orders - surely a no brainer to help get this backed… |
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Post by Bramahummel on Apr 10, 2023 0:49:52 GMT -5
Rey has to stay because for the 2000 people already backed this thing.
But include Steiner instead of Hogan and i think it would generate more backers.
Than lower Warrior.
Im a Mysterio Superfan. I have all his Elites and a lot of basics from Mattel.
But this figure here is okay but not great.
The only 2 figures i find "cool" are Steiner and Warrior.
Still dont get it why this mega boring Hogan was included.
To be honest here. I would back this thing if i get at least 2 figures which i want.
I would have to pay 560 Euro for this. No payment plan for international customers.
If they fix the international price for this thing i would back 2. But not only for the stage and Rey. I must have Steiner and/ or Warrior
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Post by TheFallen on Apr 10, 2023 1:02:57 GMT -5
I think I might actually be dumber after reading the last few pages of this thread.
I actually feel kind of embarrassed, for the posters, for Steve, for Mattel.
Godspeed, WCW Nitro stage. I sincerely hope you get funded.
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Apr 10, 2023 1:09:51 GMT -5
Generally between $150-$200 sealed...you're generally looking at ~$100 loose They can be had for less if you're patient, I got mine for less a few months ago, but that's generally what you're looking at Wow.. It's probably going to get re-released since Mattel enjoys doing that these days. We're getting another Greatest Hits Ultimate Edition set this year, so I wouldn't be shocked if Warrior is one of them if I get this guess leak right then I demand to be acknowledged as a secrettoyinsider |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 10, 2023 1:21:47 GMT -5
I think I might actually be dumber after reading the last few pages of this thread. I actually feel kind of embarrassed, for the posters, for Steve, for Mattel. ...why? Most people want the stage to be a success and are just coming up with ideas to try and make it work. |
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Post by hbchris on Apr 10, 2023 1:41:43 GMT -5
I do not necessarily disagree. I just think that's how a lot of consumers are approaching it, and I think that's understandable. But it's a catch 22. They (we?) won't pony up unless the figures are guaranteed, but the figures won't be guaranteed if we don't pony up. I think if this thing had caught on immediately, and hit 7000 or so right away, people would start dogpiling on to get that complete package. Maybe the minimum number of backers should have been higher so more figures could be guaranteed inclusions, idk. I'm sure I'm not the first person to say this (sorry, I have not read all 148 prior pages), but I think a lot more people would be all-in if we knew we'd get all the figures rather than hitting milestones. The fact that you might cough up $400 for just the stage and Mysterio, no figures beyond that, probably makes a lot of potential buyers unwilling to commit. I love the idea, and wish I had somewhere to display something like this. But now that Hogan's out, this thing is gonna have a tough time. Again, this is just not how a crowdfund/ Kickstarter type campaign works. More $$$ = More room in the budget = More figures, accessories, etc. You’re not going to get everything for the minimum amount of backers. Sorry. |
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Post by Warriah' on Apr 10, 2023 3:28:49 GMT -5
People who didn’t back in the first week, didn’t necessarily do it because they didn’t care about the Hogan. I’m sure many were concerned that if they backed early and it didn’t reach the 5,000 by April 7, but did by May 5, they would be backing only the stage and Rey. Whereas with the New Generation, if you backed before the early deadline, you were guaranteed the stage, Diesel, and Savage, as long as it reached 5,000 by the final deadline. That’s silly. They could have easily cancelled after April 7th if it didn’t reach 5,000. No reason for them to wait to see if it reaches when they know there’s a deadline for a certain figure. No it isn’t. It’s not like it’s super easy to cancel. When I contacted MC about my missing new gen set it took forever to get anywhere. I don’t want to have to go through a massive rigmarole to cancel |
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Post by Bafio on Apr 10, 2023 3:29:59 GMT -5
Hey Steve, I really appreciate to see you here during Easter days..I'd give u my feedback as an International collectors (Italian). After this crowdfund maybe you found out how many international collectors buy wwe figure, that's why we hate target and walmart exclusive. For target exclusive now maybe we have amazon.co.uk, but we hope to see something for walmart figures. Anyway, I understand about the chosen of the figures and the price for american, because Mattel is a company and it's a business.
But I wanna tell you something: 550 euros are not 600$, we have to talk about spending power by consumers. In America the average wage is 70k $, in Italy (but even in 90% Countries in the world) is 30k Euros, so 600$ is like 1200$ for an american. That's why international prices killed the project. An other thing: maybe you should think that crowdfund in another way, maybe it could be released as a bundle with stage and all 5 figures, but produced with only 11k + backers People dont wanna risk to pay 400$ for just one figure, maybe a lot of collectors waited 6-7k for ddp and steiner. that's it. |
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Post by chaz on Apr 10, 2023 3:31:25 GMT -5
People need to stop taking this so personally and learn to say “thanks, but no thanks.”
Alternatively, if you do want to back this, the desperation needs to stop too. I don’t agree with the figure choices or the overall cost / international shipping, however begging for lower tiers or different figures at this point is just going to annoy Steve and the guys at Mattel.
It is what it is at this point. If the demand isn’t there, you can’t force it.
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Post by Bramahummel on Apr 10, 2023 3:35:44 GMT -5
People need to stop taking this so personally and learn to say “thanks, but no thanks.” Alternatively, if you do want to back this, the desperation needs to stop too. I don’t agree with the figure choices or the overall cost / international shipping, however begging for lower tiers or different figures at this point is just going to annoy Steve and the guys at Mattel. It is what it is at this point. If the demand isn’t there, you can’t force it. The thing is: most of us want this thing to be a success. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 10, 2023 4:11:40 GMT -5
People need to stop taking this so personally and learn to say “thanks, but no thanks.” Alternatively, if you do want to back this, the desperation needs to stop too. I don’t agree with the figure choices or the overall cost / international shipping, however begging for lower tiers or different figures at this point is just going to annoy Steve and the guys at Mattel. It is what it is at this point. If the demand isn’t there, you can’t force it. Exactly. At the end of the day, it could just be that not enough people want - or want to spend $400 on - a "toy" Nitro stage. Sure, the poor figure choices don't really help - but the main thing you're backing is the stage itself. And if they can't sort things out for international customers, especially places like Canada and the UK (their main fanbase outside the US), then things like this are always going to struggle. |
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Post by kirk815 on Apr 10, 2023 4:51:40 GMT -5
The new tooling required for Steiner is more than likely factored into the need to have 9K backers, so no this wouldn't work That's assuming that the new tooling hasn't already been accounted for. Considering the dumb things that Scott is known for saying and how hard it was to get him under a deal, I would think that multiple Scott Steiners would be in the works. Why would they wait for a crowdfund to fund additional cost for new tooling for Scott when I would think that has already been budgeted for when they release Big Poppa Pump in one of the other Ultimate lines. Maybe you are right, but I think the main reason why he is at 9K is because they wanted to use him to drive sales (which is the smart thing to do). |
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Post by TheFallen on Apr 10, 2023 5:05:23 GMT -5
I think I might actually be dumber after reading the last few pages of this thread. I actually feel kind of embarrassed, for the posters, for Steve, for Mattel. ...why? Most people want the stage to be a success and are just coming up with ideas to try and make it work. Some of these suggestions are preposterous. It’s not going to be cheaper. It’s not going to have different figures. People are either holding out, hoping that something else is going to be added or hoping it fails to “stick it to the man”. It is an amazing piece. It looks so good and I honestly hope it succeeds on its own merits. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 10, 2023 5:28:03 GMT -5
...why? Most people want the stage to be a success and are just coming up with ideas to try and make it work. Some of these suggestions are preposterous. It’s not going to be cheaper. It’s not going to have different figures. People are either holding out, hoping that something else is going to be added or hoping it fails to “stick it to the man”. It is an amazing piece. It looks so good and I honestly hope it succeeds on its own merits. Oh yeah, it definitely won't be cheaper. But moving the figures around a bit might be possible - maybe even including a new early-bird figure (if it can be done cheaply/with mainly existing parts)? I guess we'll just have to wait and see... |
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