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Post by screech on Apr 12, 2023 12:24:31 GMT -5
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Post by PJ on Apr 12, 2023 12:25:20 GMT -5
anyways i'm down for more WCW Rey figures Seeing this got me thinking, did they do a basic wcw Rey? I saw the pink basic in a shop and it made me think of this ultimate Rey.. Could be a different era or design though, I’m not the biggest Rey fan Yes in the Evolution of Rey Mysterio boxed set. It was a TRU exclusive here in the states early on with the Mattel license.
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Post by Action Figure Attack on Apr 12, 2023 12:26:34 GMT -5
Your right You know more than a person who works at mattel who even though he didn’t work there then will be privy to more info than us 👍 you are making me reply again. Didn’t say I know more. But I collected MOTUC and had yearly subscriptions for the 6,7 whatever years. I bought Castle Grayskull so I know what it was. In 10 years you will know what New gen was to you Like I said, it was a hybrid approach so you’re not wrong. I loved the MOTUC line and was all in from day one. No need to fight over semantics everyone. 🙏🏼
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Post by Action Figure Attack on Apr 12, 2023 12:27:02 GMT -5
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Apr 12, 2023 12:27:05 GMT -5
Your right You know more than a person who works at mattel who even though he didn’t work there then will be privy to more info than us 👍 you are making me reply again. Didn’t say I know more. But I collected MOTUC and had yearly subscriptions for the 6,7 whatever years. I bought Castle Grayskull so I know what it was. In 10 years you will know what New gen was to you Yeah I’m pretty sure Grayskull was a crowdfund. I didn’t back it but do remember when it happened. Almost positive they needed a minimum amount of backers to move forward.
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Post by PJ on Apr 12, 2023 12:30:26 GMT -5
you are making me reply again. Didn’t say I know more. But I collected MOTUC and had yearly subscriptions for the 6,7 whatever years. I bought Castle Grayskull so I know what it was. In 10 years you will know what New gen was to you Yeah I’m pretty sure Grayskull was a crowdfund. I didn’t back it but do remember when it happened. Almost positive they needed a minimum amount of backers to move forward. I remember the same.
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Post by Generic Theme on Apr 12, 2023 12:31:08 GMT -5
anyways i'm down for more WCW Rey figures I really regret leaving that Malenko behind on the shelf of a Toys R Us when it was like $18 back in the day. Hopefully we get one with the upgraded parts eventually.
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Apr 12, 2023 12:36:30 GMT -5
I'm glad you actually brought up the Super7 Model here...Is there a particular reason that model wouldn't work for WWE Figs? I feel like its an awesome idea. Not that I'm a fan of spending more money, but these could be figures that could be a couple bucks extra, but we know the only way we are getting them is through Mattel. We’ve done it. Both the Cody and Logan figs were offered this way. And please continue to do them! They are great.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Apr 12, 2023 12:36:45 GMT -5
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Post by newgenandy on Apr 12, 2023 12:51:43 GMT -5
Just being honest man. I want this to succeed but 400 dollars for a stage and 4 lacklustre figures out of 5 isn’t the best approach for that. DDP: why are we getting the same version that’s been released for almost a decade? Ultimate figures are supposed to be the definitive version of the wrestlers, the DDP that was featured on the MNW wore jeans. Hulk Hogan: why not a terminator nWo Hogan with the 3 ninjas moustache. Also not to mention that the red and yellow version of him didn’t exist during the MNW. Rey Mysterio: again, not an accurate version of the character to fit the period of the theme. Rey wore this attire mostly in ECW and for a very short period in WCW way before the MNW. Warrior: Why? This choice is as random as the Warrior’s stint in the company. Was this an employee’s pet project or something? Lastly, the lack of accessories. These Ultimate figures come with almost the same amount of of accessories as elites. Look at Macho Man from last year and compare what he comes with to any of the figures from this year. Again, most of us want this to succeed but it’s hard to back up a project that seems like a half hearted attempt for a premium price tag. When exactly do you think the Monday Night Wars started? It was definitely before the formation of nWo. Unlike the attitude era and various other subjective moments this can clearly be defined. As per the monday night wars DVD (which I watched disc 1 of yesterday helpfully) eric recalls Ted asking eric what he needed to compete with WWF. Eric said (thinking it wouldn’t happen) give me prime time. Ted responded with 2 hours Monday. That first episode on Monday was the birth of the war. Literally the sole reason to have a Monday night show was to compete with WWF. Sept 4th 95 was the first nitro May 27th 96 was hall’s debut July 7th 96 was Bash at the Beach and the first time the NWO name was used (although hogan seemingly forgot what the O stood for lol) So nitro preceded the first step of the nwo by 8 months snd the name / formation of the group in any real sense by 10 months.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Apr 12, 2023 12:53:57 GMT -5
anyways i'm down for more WCW Rey figures Do one with Scott Steiner, Rick Steiner, the outsiders and Harlem Heat. Also put Bill and Steve on the top of the stage!
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Post by screech on Apr 12, 2023 12:54:53 GMT -5
"Who the hell is that, brother?!?"
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Post by AxelSmackdown on Apr 12, 2023 12:55:38 GMT -5
some people just wouldn’t be happy with this unless it had obscure jobbers from WCW that WWE didn’t take on after buying them out that don’t even have any sort of deal and most likely never will with WWE
even then they would complain because of the attire choices and/or because there’s not a large name like Hogan or Warrior to influence them to want to buy it
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Apr 12, 2023 12:59:55 GMT -5
some people just wouldn’t be happy with this unless it had obscure jobbers from WCW that WWE didn’t take on after buying them out that don’t even have any sort of deal and most likely never will with WWE even then they would complain because of the attire choices or because there’s not a large name like Hogan or Warrior to influence them to want it At this point I see more people complaining about people complaining than people actually complaining about the crowdfund. The addition of Steiner is the right direction, take the W.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Apr 12, 2023 13:00:13 GMT -5
When exactly do you think the Monday Night Wars started? It was definitely before the formation of nWo. Unlike the attitude era and various other subjective moments this can clearly be defined. As per the monday night wars DVD (which I watched disc 1 of yesterday helpfully) eric recalls Ted asking eric what he needed to compete with WWF. Eric said (thinking it wouldn’t happen) give me prime time. Ted responded with 2 hours Monday. That first episode on Monday was the birth of the war. Literally the sole reason to have a Monday night show was to compete with WWF. Sept 4th 95 was the first nitro May 27th 96 was hall’s debut July 7th 96 was Bash at the Beach and the first time the NWO name was used (although hogan seemingly forgot what the O stood for lol) So nitro preceded the first step of the nwo by 8 months snd the name / formation of the group in any real sense by 10 months. I guess the only thing that could be subjective is that the war didn’t start until WWF started fighting back. So whenever they first acknowledged or alluded to WCW on their programming could technically be interpreted as when it started. Billionaire Ted skits or something else that may have predated that. That being said, first airing of Nitro is universally accepted as when it started.
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Post by newgenandy on Apr 12, 2023 13:02:37 GMT -5
Unlike the attitude era and various other subjective moments this can clearly be defined. As per the monday night wars DVD (which I watched disc 1 of yesterday helpfully) eric recalls Ted asking eric what he needed to compete with WWF. Eric said (thinking it wouldn’t happen) give me prime time. Ted responded with 2 hours Monday. That first episode on Monday was the birth of the war. Literally the sole reason to have a Monday night show was to compete with WWF. Sept 4th 95 was the first nitro May 27th 96 was hall’s debut July 7th 96 was Bash at the Beach and the first time the NWO name was used (although hogan seemingly forgot what the O stood for lol) So nitro preceded the first step of the nwo by 8 months snd the name / formation of the group in any real sense by 10 months. I guess the only thing that could be subjective is that the war didn’t start until WWF started fighting back. So whenever they first acknowledged or alluded to WCW on their programming could technically be interpreted as when it started. Billionaire Ted skits or something else that may have predated that. That being said, first airing of Nitro is universally accepted as when it started. There’s a philosophical debate for another time, is it only a war if one’s fighting…somewhat apropo of this place at times lol 👍
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2023 13:20:27 GMT -5
Yeah, just listen to the yes men and thank you friends. Don’t listen to any genuine concerns. Because that proved to be helpful. Because to be fair, the reasons you listed in your post before this are opinion-based. For full transparency, I've been quite vocal in this thread about the position I'm in as a Canadian collector wanting to back this, but even then when I read posts like yours I shake my head. Just because something isn't being done the way you want it to be done doesn't mean anyone at Mattel is doing a half-assed job, or is trying to cheat us. To take your side for a moment here, would future crowdfunds maybe benefit from official fan polls where we're asked what figures we would hypothetically like to see (before the project is officially announced?) Perhaps, but that's not up to us to decide. Steve and I'm sure other people on his team have their ears to the ground and are acutely aware of the wants and needs of their customers. Does that mean every single one of those things is going to happen though? I mean be realistic for a moment, do you actually think that including Warrior in this crowdfund was a bad idea? It was a former Jakks 1 of 20 figure that practically no one could get their hands on. Including a figure like that in a crowdfund is a fair execution for it. At the end of the day, everyone should be allowed and encouraged to voice their opinions, but finger pointing and childish comments don't help your case honestly. It was due to constructive criticism across social media that I'm sure made Steve consider a pivot to this crowdfund, not negativity. With all due respect perhaps the team should’ve done their homework before choosing on which figures are included. The poll is an excellent idea since this is a CROWD FUNDER which means we’re paying for the production of this set, so yes, if the team apparently isn’t cutting it with minimal accessories despite being “ultimates”, then we have a right to have at least a slight choice about who we get. For 400 dollars this has been a disaster and the evidence is clear as daylight. Come on, I cant be the only person here not blinded by rose tinted glasses and kissing butt. Toy can’t tell me these choices make any sense. This is exactly just like the Haslab from last year…
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2023 13:28:47 GMT -5
Just being honest man. I want this to succeed but 400 dollars for a stage and 4 lacklustre figures out of 5 isn’t the best approach for that. DDP: why are we getting the same version that’s been released for almost a decade? Ultimate figures are supposed to be the definitive version of the wrestlers, the DDP that was featured on the MNW wore jeans. Hulk Hogan: why not a terminator nWo Hogan with the 3 ninjas moustache. Also not to mention that the red and yellow version of him didn’t exist during the MNW. Rey Mysterio: again, not an accurate version of the character to fit the period of the theme. Rey wore this attire mostly in ECW and for a very short period in WCW way before the MNW. Warrior: Why? This choice is as random as the Warrior’s stint in the company. Was this an employee’s pet project or something? Lastly, the lack of accessories. These Ultimate figures come with almost the same amount of of accessories as elites. Look at Macho Man from last year and compare what he comes with to any of the figures from this year. Again, most of us want this to succeed but it’s hard to back up a project that seems like a half hearted attempt for a premium price tag. They may be 4 lackluster figures to you, but others are fine with them. There may also be reasoning behind why they put these out with the crowdfunding. For DDP, yeah, they have already released this figure twice, but it's been a while since then and this is an ultimate edition figure compared to the old-tech elites. Also, it does come with updated head sculpts. And yes, the jeans look may be his most iconic, but you can bet a lot of people would be unhappy if they finally released their most wanted DDP look but they had to pay $400 for it. For Hogan, they most likely cannot do the terminator gear due to licensing. And actually, the Monday Night Wars began at the launch of Nitro, not the invasion of the NWO, so a red and yellow Hogan does fit with the theme. Also, this isn't necessarily a Monday Night Wars set, this is a nitro set, and red & yellow Hogan was on the show quite a bit. For Warrior, that Warrior has been requested by a number of people on this site alone, so including him in the line makes sense. As for the Macho comparison, other than the announce table, he comes with about the same number of accessories as the guys in this line. And they needed to use up much of the promotional budget just to add that. In the end, they put in guys that have proven themselves as big sellers. Just because you don't think they were great choices; doesn't mean they are. You could suggest 5 different guys and you can be sure people would complain about them, and probably ask where's Hogan, DDP, Rey, Warrior, etc. Okay fair MNW started in 95, I stand corrected. Terminator needs licensing? Fair enough, there still many versions of nWo Hogan they could’ve went with. Macho still came with a table, period. But even then, why are these Ultimates getting shafted in the accessory department? Especially for that hefty price tag? Lastly clearly it’s not only myself that doesn’t think these big sellers aren’t are doing the job as this project has been teetering on the 2000 mark for almost a week now.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2023 13:34:30 GMT -5
some people just wouldn’t be happy with this unless it had obscure jobbers from WCW that WWE didn’t take on after buying them out that don’t even have any sort of deal and most likely never will with WWE even then they would complain because of the attire choices or because there’s not a large name like Hogan or Warrior to influence them to want it At this point I see more people complaining about people complaining than people actually complaining about the crowdfund. The addition of Steiner is the right direction, take the W. It’s only me who’s complaining on here and getting ignored by Steve despite having valid concerns. Everybody else has seriously seriously turned into the teachers pet all of a sudden. Guys relax Steve isn’t hiring any of you guys to work at Mattel, give up the facade and stop being 2 faced. Be honest and genuine.
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Post by MKSavage on Apr 12, 2023 13:42:43 GMT -5
They may be 4 lackluster figures to you, but others are fine with them. There may also be reasoning behind why they put these out with the crowdfunding. For DDP, yeah, they have already released this figure twice, but it's been a while since then and this is an ultimate edition figure compared to the old-tech elites. Also, it does come with updated head sculpts. And yes, the jeans look may be his most iconic, but you can bet a lot of people would be unhappy if they finally released their most wanted DDP look but they had to pay $400 for it. For Hogan, they most likely cannot do the terminator gear due to licensing. And actually, the Monday Night Wars began at the launch of Nitro, not the invasion of the NWO, so a red and yellow Hogan does fit with the theme. Also, this isn't necessarily a Monday Night Wars set, this is a nitro set, and red & yellow Hogan was on the show quite a bit. For Warrior, that Warrior has been requested by a number of people on this site alone, so including him in the line makes sense. As for the Macho comparison, other than the announce table, he comes with about the same number of accessories as the guys in this line. And they needed to use up much of the promotional budget just to add that. In the end, they put in guys that have proven themselves as big sellers. Just because you don't think they were great choices; doesn't mean they are. You could suggest 5 different guys and you can be sure people would complain about them, and probably ask where's Hogan, DDP, Rey, Warrior, etc. Okay fair MNW started in 95, still doesn’t make sense to go with figures that didn’t appear on this specific set. Terminator needs licensing? Fair enough, there still many versions of nWo Hogan they could’ve went with. Macho still came with a table, period. But even then, why are these Ultimates getting shafted in the accessory department? Especially for that hefty price tag? Lastly clearly it’s not only myself that doesn’t think these big sellers aren’t are doing the job as this project has been teetering on the 2000 mark for almost a week now. I think the biggest reason for the low numbers is the price (especially for overseas customers), not necessarily the figures (unless maybe the order they are in). Also, a good reason why the first crowdfund made it was because people backed multiple sets, it's a lot harder to back something that costs almost double what the previous one cost. I don't think the Ultimate's are getting shafted, they all come with multiple heads and hands. Hogan, Warrior, and Rey each come with a soft goods item. DDP comes with a vest. And Steiner and Hogan both come with a championship belt. Not to mention that 4 of the figures come with brand new tooling (Hogan's belt, DDP's hands, Steiner's arms and torso, and Warriors pelvic area and legs). That seems about normal for all UE figures. Yes, while Rey and Hogan in the attire choices that chose for the figures did not appear on that specific stage, both guys at other times did come out of that entrance. And, even though that is Hogan's debut attire, I'm sure he entered through that specific entrance a time or two in the same gear.
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