kanepilk
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Post by kanepilk on Apr 14, 2023 18:40:35 GMT -5
So with the updated changes, I was going to back it and buy one. I'm in Ireland and i seen that I get USD pricing, so it works out reasonably alright for me to purchase. Works out at $435. But then I twigged that when I chose "rest of the world" i didn't get the pop-up message telling me that all fees were covered. So is that not the case for the 'rest of the world'? It's confusing. I read this on their website, but according to this, even UK customers WILL be getting hit with customs fees (on top of a price that is supposed to include the fees?). It's confusing. From creations.mattel.com/pages/shipping-rates-policy it says: " All prices on the Mattel Creations are shown in U.S. dollars (USD) except in the following countries: Canada, United Kingdom, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Japan. The price is exclusive of any shipping and processing charges (added during checkout), import duties, and taxes (assessed at Customs)." I'm in the UK and I've read that to, I always took it as it should read inclusive instead of exclusive. I'd think you might be right, but when it says "(assessed at Customs)" it is pretty much telling you that there will be customs fees added upon delivery.
It is confusing for me. I'm starting to think maybe they've included fees only for the listed countries, but not for the "rest of the world" group, for some reason. Customs fees add about €100 ($112) to the price if they're not included.
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TheFallen
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Post by TheFallen on Apr 14, 2023 18:45:43 GMT -5
Considering the timeline from funding to manufacturing, wouldn’t energy be better suited now trying to get this funded and then discussing the deco changes?
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Post by PJ on Apr 14, 2023 18:51:24 GMT -5
For the first two or three weeks of 2/98 he wore an all white singlet with the mid high black boots. After around the third week he switched to the shorter boots. Then after that he went to the Star with his face and the Superman logo on his thighs and Big Poppa Pump on the back. But they can’t put the Superman logos on it because they don’t have the DC license anymore. But I do believe seeing Toy Biz pretty much did the same attire in their Ring Masters line (theirs had NWO inside the star) there has to have been some promotional pics of him in it that was used as a reference. Could they have just made it all white sure, but I do like the star. Maybe they’ll add Big Poppa Pump to the back, but I am good with what they are giving us. They’ll be more Steiner figures in the future that will probably have the Big Poppa Pump and his face on it. So this one in the crowdfunded Nitro Stage will be more special as it’s different and limited.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Apr 14, 2023 18:53:33 GMT -5
Considering the timeline from funding to manufacturing, wouldn’t energy be better suited now trying to get this funded and then discussing the deco changes? Not expecting deco changes. Just disappointed that the worst possible, IMO, figure got added to base offering. Considering I was one of the very first backers I think I have somewhat of right to vent and point out the figures flaws.
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Post by dylan on Apr 14, 2023 18:53:53 GMT -5
I feel like all 5 figures could be included in the 5,000 tier and you guys would still find something small to rage over
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Apr 14, 2023 18:55:57 GMT -5
Also, for cool trivia reference the ToyBiz version had the Superman logo. I wonder how the hell they got away with it. There was also a black singlet variant. I legit looked for the reference just to know that he never wore a black singlet in his big poppa pump days.
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Apr 14, 2023 18:59:38 GMT -5
I feel like all 5 figures could be included in the 5,000 tier and you guys would still find something small to rage over End thread. Bingo.
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TheFallen
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Post by TheFallen on Apr 14, 2023 19:01:23 GMT -5
Considering the timeline from funding to manufacturing, wouldn’t energy be better suited now trying to get this funded and then discussing the deco changes? Not expecting deco changes. Just disappointed that the worst possible, IMO, figure got added to base offering. Considering I was one of the very first backers I think I have somewhat of right to vent and point out the figures flaws. I may have missed it but have you been pointing out that since the initial reveal or only since the tier changes?
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Warriah'
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Post by Warriah' on Apr 14, 2023 19:03:04 GMT -5
It’s a shame they’ve not addressed the international issue because they’ve done a good job arranging these tiers better. They even moved Hogan to the end knowing how much people didn’t like it and made Warrior feel more attainable.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Apr 14, 2023 19:04:57 GMT -5
Not expecting deco changes. Just disappointed that the worst possible, IMO, figure got added to base offering. Considering I was one of the very first backers I think I have somewhat of right to vent and point out the figures flaws. I may have missed it but have you been pointing out that since the initial reveal or only since the tier changes? Didnt really give it much thought since the possibility of it ever being produced was highly unlikely. But when it seemed like it was a done deal that it was being added to be main offering is when I gave it a more critical look.
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Post by Warriah' on Apr 14, 2023 19:08:20 GMT -5
Is it just that people find nearly all of these figures underwhelming then?
Last time Diesel was criticised for being a little too plain but Doink and Macho were unanimously praised.
This time Rey and DDP were criticised for being in the wrong attires. Hogan for being a rerelease. And Steiner for being inaccurate. I guess Warrior has just about the most plain attire they could have given him too
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TheFallen
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Post by TheFallen on Apr 14, 2023 19:09:33 GMT -5
I may have missed it but have you been pointing out that since the initial reveal or only since the tier changes? Didnt really give it much thought since the possibility of it ever being produced was highly unlikely. But when it seemed like it was a done deal that it was being added to be main offering is when I gave it a more critical look. It can certainly be argued that it still may not even be produced. Maybe go to AFA Q&A thread and see if you can get your question answered there?
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Post by TheFallen on Apr 14, 2023 19:12:39 GMT -5
Is it just that people find nearly all of these figures underwhelming then? Last time Diesel was criticised for being a little too plain but Doink and Macho were unanimously praised. This time Rey and DDP were criticised for being in the wrong attires. Hogan for being a rerelease. And Steiner for being inaccurate. I guess Warrior has just about the most plain attire they could have given him too The main problem is people see the figures but are not seeing the value in the stage. The stage itself is more than $400 as confirmed by Steve. But unfortunately, the viewpoint of this crowdfund is skewed towards the figures, not towards the stage.
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Post by Grenouille on Apr 14, 2023 19:16:55 GMT -5
Also, for cool trivia reference the ToyBiz version had the Superman logo. I wonder how the hell they got away with it. There was also a black singlet variant. I legit looked for the reference just to know that he never wore a black singlet in his big poppa pump days. Probably had something to do with WCW being under the Time Warner banner along with DC Comics.
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Post by TheFallen on Apr 14, 2023 19:20:25 GMT -5
First and foremost, I am a GI Joe Classified collector. Another selling point for me is being able to remove the lettering and I’ve got a great Dio to use in photoshoots with my GI Joe Classified figures.
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Post by Warriah' on Apr 14, 2023 19:26:12 GMT -5
One thing I don’t understand about the Steiner it it’s supposed to mimick the toybiz fig is why the star isn’t also on his back?
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Post by Biff Slamkovich™ on Apr 14, 2023 19:27:29 GMT -5
Are you forgetting that Americans are only paying $400 plus tax? Your math is off there. $597.32 is not what $400 plus tax ends up being lol. Us pays 400 + tax + shipping. Depending on where you live its around 450. And if you buy something internationally you should expect to pay more. When i buy stuff from the EU i pay more than a local. Thats part of life. Exactly. Which is why international collectors aren't so quick to back this.
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Post by HooliganPunx24 on Apr 14, 2023 19:28:12 GMT -5
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Apr 14, 2023 19:29:40 GMT -5
Didnt really give it much thought since the possibility of it ever being produced was highly unlikely. But when it seemed like it was a done deal that it was being added to be main offering is when I gave it a more critical look. It can certainly be argued that it still may not even be produced. Maybe go to AFA Q&A thread and see if you can get your question answered there? Theres not really a question cuz I fully expect what was shown is what we’re gonna get and just dissatisfied in the execution of that figure.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Apr 14, 2023 19:30:18 GMT -5
Is it just that people find nearly all of these figures underwhelming then? Last time Diesel was criticised for being a little too plain but Doink and Macho were unanimously praised. This time Rey and DDP were criticised for being in the wrong attires. Hogan for being a rerelease. And Steiner for being inaccurate. I guess Warrior has just about the most plain attire they could have given him too I think it's a bit of both. For the New Gen, I really had no criticism in terms of anything really as I didn't care for the era, but I backed it so we could get more future crowdfunds. Diesel's attire was accurate though. I think with some folks it's the whole value/money thing and they want the best versions of those figures or highly requested attires. At first, I was kind of baffled a bit about the lineup, but most importantly attire choices. My concern was really with Hogan/Warrior and Rey's attires. Steiner was the one I wanted the most because it was the attire that was most iconic to me. I brought the point about the singlet, boots etc and did ask Steve. The inaccurate singlet was addressed. The boots, nonsculpted biker shorts were met with a "it's up to design response". Once the attitude shifted here with people making fun of this thing not getting funded and people wishing that it did bad, my attitude changed. I just wanted the stage to be funded and accepted that we might never get it otherwise. I want all the figures, even if it's not the attires I want. Especially, because we could potentially get them if everyone does their part. It is what it is and if I get my Nitro stage, I'd like all the perks. Now, in terms of Scotty, Mattel has more than enough time and references to correct these issues beforehand. People were pointing out these flaws since the first day of the crowdfund. This is a UE, so it should have accurate deco, shorter boots and sculpted biker trunks. It's still in the prototype stages... However, Mattel is known for not changing much from protos to finalized products. Criticism is good when it's constructive. Now, to answer your question people will never be satisfied. The only thing you could do is offer the best product possible. I'm already hyped, but if Steiner is fixed then it's def going to be my favorite figure in the most recent years. I just can't wait for this stage.
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