shawnscga
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Post by shawnscga on Apr 14, 2023 23:44:29 GMT -5
I had some additional discussions with the Mattel Creations team today regarding payment, international pricing, shipping, etc. Please see below for the latest details. 1. For those of you ordering from the following countries: Canada, United Kingdom, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, and Japan, prices on Mattel Creations are shown in local currency. The price you'll see is inclusive of import duties and taxes. For all other regions, prices on Mattel Creations are shown in U.S. dollars (USD). The USD price is exclusive of import duties, and taxes (assessed at Customs). 2. Shop Pay Installments is available for US orders only. 3. Paypal, Amex, and Discover are unfortunately currently unavailable during the crowdfund. If you still have questions, keep posting them and I’ll continue to pass them along and press for answers/info. Why is Amex not available? This could be a deal breaker unfortunately for me 😞
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mperiolat
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Post by mperiolat on Apr 14, 2023 23:47:36 GMT -5
I checked the website around 7 Eastern before I heard about the recalibration and saw it sitting at 2,025 and nearly fell over. We were just barely under 2k during the last push to get Hogan and we’d only gained 25 backers? That… was not good.
Then found out that Hogan was back in at 11, Warrior at 9, DDP at 7 and if we can get to 5, Rey and Scott come with.
And now sitting at 2,053.
My concern is I think it’s too late. I just don’t know if the rate of growth is there to get to the minimum by the end. I sincerely hope we do, but it’s going to close and the pace really needs to pick up to make me feel confident.
For my part, I’m absolutely fine backing, I have money saved. I just hate to put the money up and have nothing happen. I know the money is safe, it’s the disappointment that hurts.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 14, 2023 23:47:39 GMT -5
It's not out of the realms of possibility that they switch things up a bit: Eg. "Hey Guys - we've listened!! You fans were really excited by the Ultimate Edition Scott Steiner shown with the Nitro Stage - so as a bonus incentive, EVERYONE who backs the stage will ALSO now be getting this exclusive first-time Scott Steiner figure, along with the previously announced Rey Mysterio figure! We hope you'll join us in this exciting project!" I mean... I pretty much nailed it 😄. The fans have spoken and we listened! We changed a few things in the crowdfund just for the WWE® Universe. Now, at 5,000 Backers, the entrance stage will be funded and unlocked along with the Ultimate Edition Scott Steiner™ and Rey Mysterio™ figures. See below for additional changes to the tiers.
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TheFallen
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Post by TheFallen on Apr 14, 2023 23:55:56 GMT -5
2064 now so it is tracking in the right direction.
Still 3 weeks to go so it’s definitely a chance.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 0:06:26 GMT -5
I had some additional discussions with the Mattel Creations team today regarding payment, international pricing, shipping, etc. Please see below for the latest details. 1. For those of you ordering from the following countries: Canada, United Kingdom, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, and Japan, prices on Mattel Creations are shown in local currency. The price you'll see is inclusive of import duties and taxes. For all other regions, prices on Mattel Creations are shown in U.S. dollars (USD). The USD price is exclusive of import duties, and taxes (assessed at Customs). 2. Shop Pay Installments is available for US orders only.3. Paypal, Amex, and Discover are unfortunately currently unavailable during the crowdfund.If you still have questions, keep posting them and I’ll continue to pass them along and press for answers/info. Man alive... Mattel just don't want international backing for this do they!? 🤦♂️ Not only do we have to pay nearly $250 more (without any real price-breakdown)... we can't even do it by PayPal or installments?? Thanks, but no thanks. Unless this international situation is sorted out, I seriously doubt the stage reaches the 5K backers needed - and if it does, any additional tiers are out of the question. It's such a shame too, after all the work Steve has put in to try and make this work.
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Post by Flair Forever on Apr 15, 2023 0:51:24 GMT -5
I honestly don’t see why people want that Scott Steiner figure. It doesn’t appear to be accurate at all. Did he ever just have a plain star on his singlet with nothing else? I always recall him just wearing a plain white singlet at first and then a few weeks later had the airbrush designs. But it was his face inside the star with Superstar over it, Big Poppa Pump on the back, and Superman symbols on the sides. I get they can’t do Superman but there’s no excuse not to include the other designs. And the facial hair is wrong as well. Should be blonde in the middle and dark streaks on each side. I would probably rather wait for a better version to come out even if it’s an elite. Not saying it's what people would have wanted..... but I think they were shooting for an "homage" to the Steiner Toy Biz figure, which was pictured on the box of the original Toy Biz Nitro playset (and that was one of the "hints" shown before the Crowd-Fund was officially unveiled).
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Post by Flair Forever on Apr 15, 2023 0:59:54 GMT -5
Let's hope Steiner can carry us to the 5000 backer finish line with the largest arms in the world! I thought maybe Mattel was going to go in a different direction for the 2nd surprise figure:
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Jonny Flashback
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Post by Jonny Flashback on Apr 15, 2023 1:45:13 GMT -5
I had some additional discussions with the Mattel Creations team today regarding payment, international pricing, shipping, etc. Please see below for the latest details. 1. For those of you ordering from the following countries: Canada, United Kingdom, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, and Japan, prices on Mattel Creations are shown in local currency. The price you'll see is inclusive of import duties and taxes. For all other regions, prices on Mattel Creations are shown in U.S. dollars (USD). The USD price is exclusive of import duties, and taxes (assessed at Customs). 2. Shop Pay Installments is available for US orders only. 3. Paypal, Amex, and Discover are unfortunately currently unavailable during the crowdfund. If you still have questions, keep posting them and I’ll continue to pass them along and press for answers/info. I mean, we already knew that. Its still not right. We were hoping, they would see sense and it would change to how it was for New Gen. Best of luck to the USA to fund this
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 2:14:57 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the international problem is not just for this set... it's Mattel Creations as a whole: last year they started to included prices in GBP (rather than USD) and also added their own "shipping and import fees". And it flat out SUCKS.
eg. the first two Retro sets, charged in USD were:
$55 + $14.95 = $69.95 (£56 GBP) each Total
And the third set, after the change, charged in GBP:
£60 + £9 = £69 GBP Total
An extra £13 ($16)...
Now, on relatively small figure sets, you can just about stomach the difference (...what other option do we have?). But on a big set like this stage, the difference is HUGE. And it ends up hurting everyone in the long run - not just UK/international people - as the set needs all the backers it can get just to be made... and then also for the various tiers to be reached.
It's such a mess.
(EDIT: sorry, it's "Duty and Tax", not "shipping and import fees")
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BubbleNSqueak
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Post by BubbleNSqueak on Apr 15, 2023 2:15:19 GMT -5
For other Steiner figures, they could do this style "S" for his tights. Even though it may not be 100% accurate for all of his gear, it might be better than nothing. Keep in mind he had “69” on the opposite side of these biker shorts, we all know Mattel can’t do that and we will be in the same situation with people still complaining.. either way, would be a great fig with the chain-mail and the WCW Heavyweight Title 🔥
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Warriah'
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Post by Warriah' on Apr 15, 2023 2:42:19 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the international problem is not just for this set... it's Mattel Creations as a whole: last year they started to included prices in GBP (rather than USD) and also added their own "shipping and import fees". And it flat out SUCKS. eg. the first two Retro sets, charged in USD were: $55 + $14.95 = $69.95 (£56 GBP) each Total And the third set, after the change, charged in GBP: £60 + £9 = £69 GBP Total An extra £13 ($16)... Now, on relatively small figure sets, you can just about stomach the difference (...what other option do we have?). But on a big set like this stage, the difference is HUGE. And it ends up hurting everyone in the long run - not just UK/international people - as the set needs all the backers it can get just to be made... and then also for the various tiers to be reached. It's such a mess. Especially as it’s added onto items that are below the tax threshold.
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stinkfaceT
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Post by stinkfaceT on Apr 15, 2023 2:55:15 GMT -5
What would shipping for a package that size from the US to Canada cost approximately? Any way it would be cheaper to have someone in the US receive a Canadian order and mail it to the actual buyer? Would that be just the conversion rate difference plus the shipping it up north and not the extra taxes/tariffs? I mean you could just try ordering it on the US website, then getting it shipped to a parcel pick up service on the US-side. Then cross the border, pick it up, and hope you don't get asked by the CBSA to declare it lol. I’m in the US and already backed the project. Was asking to see if there were other ideas/options to increase likelihood of Canadian purchases
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Apr 15, 2023 3:28:40 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the international problem is not just for this set... it's Mattel Creations as a whole: last year they started to included prices in GBP (rather than USD) and also added their own "shipping and import fees". And it flat out SUCKS. eg. the first two Retro sets, charged in USD were: $55 + $14.95 = $69.95 (£56 GBP) each Total And the third set, after the change, charged in GBP: £60 + £9 = £69 GBP Total An extra £13 ($16)... Now, on relatively small figure sets, you can just about stomach the difference (...what other option do we have?). But on a big set like this stage, the difference is HUGE. And it ends up hurting everyone in the long run - not just UK/international people - as the set needs all the backers it can get just to be made... and then also for the various tiers to be reached. It's such a mess. Thing is, we don’t get charged anything additional on products under the value of £135 in the U.K., so the hike in pricing on retros makes zero sense and should be amended. For the Nitro arena, $400 is £322. They’re charging £500 to include tax and duties. So Mattel are saying tax and duties would be £178.00 I’m no expert at all but my understanding is for items valued £135 to £630 that we get charged 2.5% duty (2.5% of £322 = £8.20) and VAT is 20% (20% of £322 is £64.40) so £72.60. £178 just doesn’t seem to make sense. For the New Gen arena, I was charged an additional £59 by Parcelforce when it arrived but we got charged for the arena in $ the same as everyone else, so I thought that was absolutely fine.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 3:39:58 GMT -5
Thing is, we don’t get charged anything additional on products under the value of £135 in the U.K., so the hike in pricing on retros makes zero sense and should be amended. For the Nitro arena, $400 is £322. They’re charging £500 to include tax and duties. So Mattel are saying tax and duties would be £178.00 I’m no expert at all but my understanding is for items valued £135 to £630 that we get charged 2.5% duty (2.5% of £322 = £8.20) and VAT is 20% (20% of £322 is £64.40) so £72.60. £178 just doesn’t seem to make sense. For the New Gen arena, I was charged an additional £59 by Parcelforce when it arrived but we got charged for the arena in $ the same as everyone else, so I thought that was absolutely fine. Yeah, we paid the same USD price for the New Gen set, $14.95 shipping, then an additional £60 (approx) charge by Parcelforce when it was ready to be delivered. It seemed so simple... ...because IT IS SO SIMPLE 🤦♂️.
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Post by Bramahummel on Apr 15, 2023 3:40:32 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the international problem is not just for this set... it's Mattel Creations as a whole: last year they started to included prices in GBP (rather than USD) and also added their own "shipping and import fees". And it flat out SUCKS. eg. the first two Retro sets, charged in USD were: $55 + $14.95 = $69.95 (£56 GBP) each Total And the third set, after the change, charged in GBP: £60 + £9 = £69 GBP Total An extra £13 ($16)... Now, on relatively small figure sets, you can just about stomach the difference (...what other option do we have?). But on a big set like this stage, the difference is HUGE. And it ends up hurting everyone in the long run - not just UK/international people - as the set needs all the backers it can get just to be made... and then also for the various tiers to be reached. It's such a mess. Thing is, we don’t get charged anything additional on products under the value of £135 in the U.K., so the hike in pricing on retros makes zero sense and should be amended. For the Nitro arena, $400 is £322. They’re charging £500 to include tax and duties. So Mattel are saying tax and duties would be £178.00 I’m no expert at all but my understanding is for items valued £135 to £630 that we get charged 2.5% duty (2.5% of £322 = £8.20) and VAT is 20% (20% of £322 is £64.40) so £72.60. £178 just doesn’t seem to make sense. For the New Gen arena, I was charged an additional £59 by Parcelforce when it arrived but we got charged for the arena in $ the same as everyone else, so I thought that was absolutely fine. So you paid 59 for the 250$ New Gen set but only 72 for the 400$ Nitro stage?! Dont know if this is correct... Dont forget the price in £ includes shipping costs too. This huge set to ship costs way more than 10 they asking for BUT yes they are overcharging. I have to pay 550 Euros plus 10 shipping The new gen set came in without additional taxes because it was shipped from the US to Belgium and then to Germany. Now if i could buy the nitro stage in Dollars it would be 360 Euros plus shipping. And customs would be 19%. So lets say 360 plus 50 shipping plus 19% = ca 500 Euros and not 560 😔 AND its complete unfair because friends from Ireland or Austria can pay in Dollars and we cant.
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Post by muuk76 on Apr 15, 2023 3:51:23 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the international problem is not just for this set... it's Mattel Creations as a whole: last year they started to included prices in GBP (rather than USD) and also added their own "shipping and import fees". And it flat out SUCKS. eg. the first two Retro sets, charged in USD were: $55 + $14.95 = $69.95 (£56 GBP) each Total And the third set, after the change, charged in GBP: £60 + £9 = £69 GBP Total An extra £13 ($16)... Now, on relatively small figure sets, you can just about stomach the difference (...what other option do we have?). But on a big set like this stage, the difference is HUGE. And it ends up hurting everyone in the long run - not just UK/international people - as the set needs all the backers it can get just to be made... and then also for the various tiers to be reached. It's such a mess. Thing is, we don’t get charged anything additional on products under the value of £135 in the U.K., so the hike in pricing on retros makes zero sense and should be amended. For the Nitro arena, $400 is £322. They’re charging £500 to include tax and duties. So Mattel are saying tax and duties would be £178.00 I’m no expert at all but my understanding is for items valued £135 to £630 that we get charged 2.5% duty (2.5% of £322 = £8.20) and VAT is 20% (20% of £322 is £64.40) so £72.60. £178 just doesn’t seem to make sense. For the New Gen arena, I was charged an additional £59 by Parcelforce when it arrived but we got charged for the arena in $ the same as everyone else, so I thought that was absolutely fine. Gotta make that money somehow lol.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 4:01:10 GMT -5
So you paid 59 for the 250$ New Gen set but only 72 for the 400$ Nitro stage?! Dont know if this is correct... Dont forget the price in £ includes shipping costs too. This huge set to ship costs way more than 10 they asking forBUT yes they are overcharging. I have to pay 550 Euros plus 10 shipping The new gen set came in without additional taxes because it was shipped from the US to Belgium and then to Germany. Now if i could buy the nitro stage in Euros it would be 360 Euros plus shipping. And customs would be 19%. So lets say 360 plus 50 shipping plus 19% = ca 500 Euros and not 560 😔 That's the thing though... TELL US how much it costs to ship. Break the price down, so we can see exactly what we're paying for. Then let us see if it's worth it or if you're overcharging us. All this stuff with their automatic currency conversion... automatic duty and tax added... Mattel saying the shipping is included in the price (even though we still have to pay a separate shipping charge)... It all just gives the impression that no-one really knows what's going on. 🤷♂️
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Bramahummel
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Post by Bramahummel on Apr 15, 2023 4:03:35 GMT -5
So you paid 59 for the 250$ New Gen set but only 72 for the 400$ Nitro stage?! Dont know if this is correct... Dont forget the price in £ includes shipping costs too. This huge set to ship costs way more than 10 they asking forBUT yes they are overcharging. I have to pay 550 Euros plus 10 shipping The new gen set came in without additional taxes because it was shipped from the US to Belgium and then to Germany. Now if i could buy the nitro stage in Euros it would be 360 Euros plus shipping. And customs would be 19%. So lets say 360 plus 50 shipping plus 19% = ca 500 Euros and not 560 😔 That's the thing though... TELL US how much it costs to ship. Break the price down, so we can see exactly what we're paying for. Then let us see if it's worth it or if you're overcharging us. All this stuff with their automatic currency conversion... automatic duty and tax added... Mattel saying the shipping is included in the price (even though we still have to pay a separate shipping charge)... It all just gives the impression that no-one really knows what's going on. 🤷♂️ 👍👍
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danfdan
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Post by danfdan on Apr 15, 2023 4:30:17 GMT -5
There is a department somewhere within Mattel or Creations that has come up with this as a process. I don't see it changing until they see international orders dry up. Sadly as Steve pointed out - we are forced into paying customs charges on the likes of retros & CC now even though they wouldn't require it.
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Rob Riot UK
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Post by Rob Riot UK on Apr 15, 2023 4:38:52 GMT -5
The international shipping cost issue could easily be sorted by Mattel organising a distributor in their main international markets. Ship all international orders to those hubs, and then they get distributed from there.
One in Australia, one in Canada, one in the UK, and one in the EU.
They're just obviously not motivated/concerned enough to do it.
Which for someone based in the UK who probably would fund it at $400 - about £325 at current exchange rate - is really frustrating.
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