hickenbottomkid
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Post by hickenbottomkid on Apr 15, 2023 14:05:07 GMT -5
I’m probably way late to the game on this but did they say if this was gonna take batteries or have a plug. That’s my least favorite part of the new gen entrance is that it takes batteries.
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Apr 15, 2023 14:22:11 GMT -5
I’m probably way late to the game on this but did they say if this was gonna take batteries or have a plug. That’s my least favorite part of the new gen entrance is that it takes batteries. It has battery options and a plug in adapter for an always on option, which is much better in my Opinion
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Post by kgchampion on Apr 15, 2023 14:53:39 GMT -5
I’m probably way late to the game on this but did they say if this was gonna take batteries or have a plug. That’s my least favorite part of the new gen entrance is that it takes batteries. It has battery options and a plug in adapter for an always on option, which is much better in my Opinion That’s smart. I have a bad habit of leaving batteries in things until they leak and make a mess. I removed the batteries from my New Gen arch to avoid that.
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Post by newgenandy on Apr 15, 2023 14:59:23 GMT -5
How was this trending per day v after the announcement
Just a rough idea
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Apr 15, 2023 15:06:16 GMT -5
Thing is, we don’t get charged anything additional on products under the value of £135 in the U.K., so the hike in pricing on retros makes zero sense and should be amended. For the Nitro arena, $400 is £322. They’re charging £500 to include tax and duties. So Mattel are saying tax and duties would be £178.00 I’m no expert at all but my understanding is for items valued £135 to £630 that we get charged 2.5% duty (2.5% of £322 = £8.20) and VAT is 20% (20% of £322 is £64.40) so £72.60. £178 just doesn’t seem to make sense. For the New Gen arena, I was charged an additional £59 by Parcelforce when it arrived but we got charged for the arena in $ the same as everyone else, so I thought that was absolutely fine. So you paid 59 for the 250$ New Gen set but only 72 for the 400$ Nitro stage?! Dont know if this is correct... Dont forget the price in £ includes shipping costs too. This huge set to ship costs way more than 10 they asking for BUT yes they are overcharging. I have to pay 550 Euros plus 10 shipping The new gen set came in without additional taxes because it was shipped from the US to Belgium and then to Germany. Now if i could buy the nitro stage in Dollars it would be 360 Euros plus shipping. And customs would be 19%. So lets say 360 plus 50 shipping plus 19% = ca 500 Euros and not 560 😔 AND its complete unfair because friends from Ireland or Austria can pay in Dollars and we cant. The threshold for U.K. is up to £630 I believe so this set is no where near at £322. Mattel have said the price (£500) is for taxes and duty, no mention of postage. We have to pay another £9 for postage. This does seem cheap but again, I’m only going on what Mattel said. Plus, we paid the £9 for shipping for new gen, so…? I could be wrong but we need Mattel to outline it if they really want international buyers, on the face of it, they’re miles off. People mentioning shipping…Mattel haven’t mentioned shipping in the £500 price. They said it’s to cover tax and duty. If it is postage, tell us! Give us the weight. I still think it would be over necessary to be honest.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Apr 15, 2023 15:15:23 GMT -5
That attire is winning by four votes, and it probably couldn't be done accurately because it has the Superman S and '69' on the side. Plus multiple WCW looks means the votes are spread out. Are there more total votes for WCW attires or the WWE ones? WWE is clearly more popular now because it's still a thing, but are there thousands of more fans of early 2000s WWE (not current WWE) willing to drop $400+ on a Raw stage? Or would a WWE-themed crowdfund be in the same boat right now?
If Mattel wanted a Monday Night Wars theme (right or wrong choice there is a different debate), why would they not choose something from the show that won the ratings war for weeks upon weeks?This is a great point... was a WCW product the correct way to go for only the second crowdfunding project? It has a MUCH smaller collector base than WWE: forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/374188/favourite-era-collect...15 votes for WCW '95-'01 (ie. the Nitro stage period) - on a hardcore/dedicated wrestling collector website. If the stage thing fails, along with the international issue, it could be down to there just not being enough WCW collectors - or WWE collectors willing to spend this much for something WCW(?) I actually think the Nitro set is more ‘exciting’ with all the lights and yeh WCW blocks etc. I want RAW because that my nostalgia hit but realistically, I don’t know how you can charge big cash for it as it’s very basic. It’s plastic and a bit of black material. The nitro set has so many interactive aspects. I actually think they went with the Nitro set because they weren’t in agreement on the scale of the RAW set. They’ve said recently it would be 6ft tall if in scale which is mental. So there. Gone with the nitro set whilst they work the RAW scale out. I’m big on scale but understand we can’t have a 6ft set…however, if it can’t be a good scale, I’d rather not have it.
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g4
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Post by g4 on Apr 15, 2023 15:15:41 GMT -5
If I may... With the New Gen ring all the UK buyers cried because they had to pay tax on arrival. This forced Mattel to collect tax based on your location! I am also international but do not blame Mattel for taxes set by our Government!!
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Apr 15, 2023 15:18:27 GMT -5
If I may... With the New Gen ring all the UK buyers cried because they had to pay tax on arrival. This forced Mattel to collect tax based on your location! I am also international but do not blame Mattel for taxes set by our Government!! I don’t remember any U.K. buyer crying and if they did, they’re terrible at maths.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on Apr 15, 2023 15:19:17 GMT -5
If I may... With the New Gen ring all the UK buyers cried because they had to pay tax on arrival. This forced Mattel to collect tax based on your location! I am also international but do not blame Mattel for taxes set by our Government!! I don’t remember any U.K. buyer crying and if they did, they’re terrible at maths.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 15:38:50 GMT -5
If I may... With the New Gen ring all the UK buyers cried because they had to pay tax on arrival. This forced Mattel to collect tax based on your location! I am also international but do not blame Mattel for taxes set by our Government!! That's simply not true, mate... we all knew we would get a Customs charge when it was out for delivery (...I'd even set £60 aside, ready). And besides, it's the fact that with Mattel now including tax and duty, they seem to be overcharging by quite a lot - and aren't giving us a price breakdown of the actual costs either.
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danfdan
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Post by danfdan on Apr 15, 2023 16:06:41 GMT -5
If I may... With the New Gen ring all the UK buyers cried because they had to pay tax on arrival. This forced Mattel to collect tax based on your location! I am also international but do not blame Mattel for taxes set by our Government!! Literally no one cried. I cried at my set going on a tour of Gambia, and spending weeks contacting Mattel only to be passed from pillar to post. Also, if they did take the correct customs charge it would be £60 - not an issue. The issue is that it's £180 added on instead so doesn't add up.
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Post by MKSavage on Apr 15, 2023 16:17:45 GMT -5
I think WCW did well for itself, but as a product, especially 20+ years after it closed it's doors, it doesn't have the same support or popularity as WWE. Even looking at the thread on here about which Steiner outfit you want, the WWE one is winning by a mile, despite all his WCW looks. I think this being a WCW product is doing more harm than people are letting on. That attire is winning by four votes, and it probably couldn't be done accurately because it has the Superman S and '69' on the side. Plus multiple WCW looks means the votes are spread out. Are there more total votes for WCW attires or the WWE ones?
WWE is clearly more popular now because it's still a thing, but are there thousands of more fans of early 2000s WWE (not current WWE) willing to drop $400+ on a Raw stage? Or would a WWE-themed crowdfund be in the same boat right now? If Mattel wanted a Monday Night Wars theme (right or wrong choice there is a different debate), why would they not choose something from the show that won the ratings war for weeks upon weeks? Yes, the WCW attires total more votes than the WWE attires, 62 votes for the WCW attires and 39 votes for the WWE attires.
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mperiolat
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Post by mperiolat on Apr 15, 2023 16:18:46 GMT -5
MInus the out of the USA shipping scenario ... The psychology of this WCW Nitro is so interesting. 1st ... I got it the second it was available. I saw the value. 2nd. I personally have multiple Hulks, Rey's, Page's and Warriors so my true desire was the Set and Steiner. 3rd. When Hulk went away it seemed to stall and without something we were in trouble. 4th. Mattel comes up with a solution to make the most desired figure (Stenier) that has never been made by Mattel along with the Set. 5th. It seems that most people say if you could get all 5 figures with the set they would pay $400.00 - and this thing would blow up! 6th. A crowdfund is designed to let the PEOPLE put their money where their mouth is with a saftey net - that if they don't get the value they want at the end of the campaign they can back out. But instead, many wait to see if it gets closer to 5,000. They look to see if others will step in before they do. Some are waiting to see if it's closer to 7,000. Some want all of it to get to the 11,000 before they jump in. It's a game of chicken to see who will do what first. The bottom line is that each customer has a saftey to get out. I wonder what would happen in the last week if Mattel said if we got to 5,000 backers at $400.00 everyone would get everything??? I wonder if it would get to 11,000 because nobody wanted to miss out because of the value? And if it didn't reach the 11,000 ... Mattel said ... sorry - we just didn't have enough to do it. . What's good for the goose is good for the gander. I know people would be furious ... but the rules all along were if we get to 11,000 backers at $400.00 we would get everything. It's just reveresed psycology. How do we get there. Visualize that you will get all of it for $400.00 and do it. Your dream might come true. I’m certainly not complaining about the content, more that the rate is so sluggish, I’m not sure this thing is getting backed. And this is a me problem, but I have a problem investing in anything that isn’t a certainty. Now, if we’re at say 4,500 with 24 hours to go, I’m in. If we’re over 5k any time before the end date, I’m in. Nothing personal, it’s how I role with my money. Looks like the rate is maybe 25 backers every 12 hours. We may yet get there.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Apr 15, 2023 16:32:48 GMT -5
This is a great point... was a WCW product the correct way to go for only the second crowdfunding project? It has a MUCH smaller collector base than WWE: forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/374188/favourite-era-collect...15 votes for WCW '95-'01 (ie. the Nitro stage period) - on a hardcore/dedicated wrestling collector website. If the stage thing fails, along with the international issue, it could be down to there just not being enough WCW collectors - or WWE collectors willing to spend this much for something WCW(?) I actually think the Nitro set is more ‘exciting’ with all the lights and yeh WCW blocks etc. I want RAW because that my nostalgia hit but realistically, I don’t know how you can charge big cash for it as it’s very basic. It’s plastic and a bit of black material. The nitro set has so many interactive aspects. I actually think they went with the Nitro set because they weren’t in agreement on the scale of the RAW set. They’ve said recently it would be 6ft tall if in scale which is mental. So there. Gone with the nitro set whilst they work the RAW scale out. I’m big on scale but understand we can’t have a 6ft set…however, if it can’t be a good scale, I’d rather not have it. Wait... Why would the Raw stage be 6ft? That's taller than the average man in the US.
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TheFallen
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Post by TheFallen on Apr 15, 2023 16:37:07 GMT -5
That attire is winning by four votes, and it probably couldn't be done accurately because it has the Superman S and '69' on the side. Plus multiple WCW looks means the votes are spread out. Are there more total votes for WCW attires or the WWE ones? WWE is clearly more popular now because it's still a thing, but are there thousands of more fans of early 2000s WWE (not current WWE) willing to drop $400+ on a Raw stage? Or would a WWE-themed crowdfund be in the same boat right now?
If Mattel wanted a Monday Night Wars theme (right or wrong choice there is a different debate), why would they not choose something from the show that won the ratings war for weeks upon weeks?This is a great point... was a WCW product the correct way to go for only the second crowdfunding project? It has a MUCH smaller collector base than WWE: forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/374188/favourite-era-collect...15 votes for WCW '95-'01 (ie. the Nitro stage period) - on a hardcore/dedicated wrestling collector website. If the stage thing fails, along with the international issue, it could be down to there just not being enough WCW collectors - or WWE collectors willing to spend this much for something WCW(?) 15 votes out of 195. You can claim hardcore wrestling collectors all you want but 195 total votes means nothing.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 16:49:10 GMT -5
This is a great point... was a WCW product the correct way to go for only the second crowdfunding project? It has a MUCH smaller collector base than WWE: forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/374188/favourite-era-collect...15 votes for WCW '95-'01 (ie. the Nitro stage period) - on a hardcore/dedicated wrestling collector website. If the stage thing fails, along with the international issue, it could be down to there just not being enough WCW collectors - or WWE collectors willing to spend this much for something WCW(?) 15 votes out of 195. You can claim hardcore wrestling collectors all you want but 195 total votes means nothing. ...just pointing out that the audience/collector-base for the stage is probably much less than that of the the New Gen set (and things WWE based).
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Post by deskjet on Apr 15, 2023 16:50:35 GMT -5
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Apr 15, 2023 16:55:00 GMT -5
I hope people share the link for the crowd fund and help spread the word. We all have a voice and while many helped with their pockets we also need to help with the advertising
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Apr 15, 2023 17:20:40 GMT -5
I hope people share the link for the crowd fund and help spread the word. We all have a voice and while many helped with their pockets we also need to help with the advertising I've been advocating for this for a while. I've shared the link to friends and have told those who have Twitter and Instagram to repost it. This is how we'll get this funded word of mouth.
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Post by Action Figure Attack on Apr 15, 2023 17:30:54 GMT -5
I hope people share the link for the crowd fund and help spread the word. We all have a voice and while many helped with their pockets we also need to help with the advertising I've been advocating for this for a while. I've shared the link to friends and have told those who have Twitter and Instagram to repost it. This is how we'll get this funded word of mouth. Honestly this is a key element to a crowdfund’s success. These executions are a bit more niche and entrepreneurial and backers spreading the word is vital.
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