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Post by Action Figure Attack on Apr 15, 2023 17:40:39 GMT -5
Hey Steve, In the unfortunate scenario where this doesn’t make it all the way to 5,000 backers, do you think there is a chance we will ever see a simplified version of the Nitro Stage? Something with fewer electronic functions, more cost effective materials, and/or possibly a reduced size? We’ve already done quite a bit on the backend to squeeze the price down to $400. A lot of what drives the price is the complex tooling involved as well. This is it guys. If we can’t make it happen here, I don’t see another realistic scenario where something like this is doable.
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Post by Action Figure Attack on Apr 15, 2023 17:44:02 GMT -5
15 votes out of 195. You can claim hardcore wrestling collectors all you want but 195 total votes means nothing. ...just pointing out that the audience/collector-base for the stage is probably much less than that of the the New Gen set (and things WWE based). This era, and WCW specifically, does have a very healthy potential consumer base. It really looks like the price has been understandably the most difficult thing for most to swallow.
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Post by Action Figure Attack on Apr 15, 2023 17:49:37 GMT -5
This is a great point... was a WCW product the correct way to go for only the second crowdfunding project? It has a MUCH smaller collector base than WWE: forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/374188/favourite-era-collect...15 votes for WCW '95-'01 (ie. the Nitro stage period) - on a hardcore/dedicated wrestling collector website. If the stage thing fails, along with the international issue, it could be down to there just not being enough WCW collectors - or WWE collectors willing to spend this much for something WCW(?) I actually think the Nitro set is more ‘exciting’ with all the lights and yeh WCW blocks etc. I want RAW because that my nostalgia hit but realistically, I don’t know how you can charge big cash for it as it’s very basic. It’s plastic and a bit of black material. The nitro set has so many interactive aspects. I actually think they went with the Nitro set because they weren’t in agreement on the scale of the RAW set. They’ve said recently it would be 6ft tall if in scale which is mental. So there. Gone with the nitro set whilst they work the RAW scale out. I’m big on scale but understand we can’t have a 6ft set…however, if it can’t be a good scale, I’d rather not have it. We went with Nitro because RAW first just wasn’t doable at a price point most of you would accept. It would have been considerably more expensive; so much so that the perceived greater popularity of the Attitude Era of RAW wouldn’t overcome the sticker shock. Nitro first allows us to create some potential shared tooling (stage platforms, lighting truss, etc) which would help drive down the overall cost and final price of the RAW stage if/when the time came.
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Post by deskjet on Apr 15, 2023 17:49:44 GMT -5
...just pointing out that the audience/collector-base for the stage is probably much less than that of the the New Gen set (and things WWE based). This era, and WCW specifically, does have a very healthy potential consumer base. It really looks like the price has been understandably the most difficult thing for most to swallow. A lot of people were talking about the international prices being high? Is that something the team is looking into or is it out of their hands? Thanks.
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Post by Action Figure Attack on Apr 15, 2023 17:53:35 GMT -5
This era, and WCW specifically, does have a very healthy potential consumer base. It really looks like the price has been understandably the most difficult thing for most to swallow. A lot of people were talking about the international prices being high? Is that something the team is looking into or is it out of their hands? Thanks. It’s out of my hands personally but as I’ve mentioned, I pass along all comments. Having spoken with that team and seeing the breakdowns, the pricing is realistic/accurate. Any perceived “overage” is going to the shipping of a gigantic item.
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Post by PJ on Apr 15, 2023 18:06:12 GMT -5
This is a great point... was a WCW product the correct way to go for only the second crowdfunding project? It has a MUCH smaller collector base than WWE: forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/374188/favourite-era-collect...15 votes for WCW '95-'01 (ie. the Nitro stage period) - on a hardcore/dedicated wrestling collector website. If the stage thing fails, along with the international issue, it could be down to there just not being enough WCW collectors - or WWE collectors willing to spend this much for something WCW(?) 15 votes out of 195. You can claim hardcore wrestling collectors all you want but 195 total votes means nothing. What vote is this? The era we collect thread? If so as you said that means absolutely nothing. Especially when the choices given were so WWE heavy. lol As for the crowdfunding stage if this was anything other than the Nitro stage there’d be one less funded for sure as there’s nothing other than the Nitro stage that I would back.
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Apr 15, 2023 18:09:05 GMT -5
I've been advocating for this for a while. I've shared the link to friends and have told those who have Twitter and Instagram to repost it. This is how we'll get this funded word of mouth. Honestly this is a key element to a crowdfund’s success. These executions are a bit more niche and entrepreneurial and backers spreading the word is vital. I love you. Thank you for giving me Attitude Era Undertaker I requested with the hair to the side. For also being the voice of WFIGS and I'm hoping the MNW Bret is SS '97 because I'm planning to fix him into a WCW version. Also Steve, when the time comes for jeans DDP. Could you please pitch the serious and alternate snarling headscan to the design team?
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Post by Xæro #FakeCollector on Apr 15, 2023 18:09:09 GMT -5
I wonder if announcing the crowdfund months before would have made a difference when it comes to the price being a tough pill for people to swallow. All we knew was that it was coming at some point, and that it would "be expensive", but I feel like knowing the actual price well before would have been beneficial to the project as a whole
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Post by Action Figure Attack on Apr 15, 2023 18:16:03 GMT -5
I wonder if announcing the crowdfund months before would have made a difference when it comes to the price being a tough pill for people to swallow. All we knew was that it was coming at some point, and that it would "be expensive", but I feel like knowing the actual price well before would have been beneficial to the project as a whole It’s debatable. There was a lot of feedback during and after the last crowdfund project that we waited too long to begin the sale after the announcement which was a little under a week. The case was made that the excitement started to dissipate and people start second guessing and nitpicking leading into the campaign launch. I don’t think there’s any foolproof secret formula to success, especially with high price points and figure lineups that people are understandably going to fantasy book.
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Post by CM Tusk on Apr 15, 2023 18:21:36 GMT -5
Was the choice to do red and yellow over Hollywood a deco reason to keep prices lower since so much is jammed into this?
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 18:21:39 GMT -5
15 votes out of 195. You can claim hardcore wrestling collectors all you want but 195 total votes means nothing. What vote is this? The era we collect thread? If so as you said that means absolutely nothing. Especially when the choices given were so WWE heavy. lol ...doesn't it show that WCW is a more niche market though? That the collector-base is smaller (than WWE)? At least by the people who voted anyway (no matter how small, lol).
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Post by Rocket_Fuel_Merchant on Apr 15, 2023 18:26:53 GMT -5
We’ve already done quite a bit on the backend to squeeze the price down to $400. A lot of what drives the price is the complex tooling involved as well. This is it guys. If we can’t make it happen here, I don’t see another realistic scenario where something like this is doable. this is so unfortunate...I wonder if the stage could be funded in pieces?...maybe this has been brought up, you guys are smart, and I'm sure you've thought of this in the past and of course it's too late in the game now...BUT...in the future. - The New Gen was a ring, and the entrance way itself What if Nitro, and or Raw was simply the trussing, directly around the entrance? @ 5000: Nitro entrance trussing (@"shelf depth"), and ramp + Rey Mysterio & Scott Steiner @ 7000: WCW Letters w/ appropriate staging + DDP @ 9000: Nitro Soft Goods banners and trussing w/ appropriate staging + Ultimate Warrior @11,000: completed staging + Hulk Hogan Same could be done for RAW... @ 5000: shelf depth entrance trussing + whatever figure... So on and so forth. Idk...I'm just spitballing. This era, and WCW specifically, does have a very healthy potential consumer base. It really looks like the price has been understandably the most difficult thing for most to swallow. Yeah, it would be interesting to see what the Domestic vs international breakdown of backers is We went with Nitro because RAW first just wasn’t doable at a price point most of you would accept. It would have been considerably more expensive; so much so that the perceived greater popularity of the Attitude Era of RAW wouldn’t overcome the sticker shock. Nitro first allows us to create some potential shared tooling (stage platforms, lighting truss, etc) which would help drive down the overall cost and final price of the RAW stage if/when the time came. Damn...was the ORIGINAL plan to go with the RAW stage, considering we got the Kane Attitude ring first? It’s out of my hands personally but as I’ve mentioned, I pass along all comments. Having spoken with that team and seeing the breakdowns, the pricing is realistic/accurate. Any perceived “overage” is going to the shipping of a gigantic item. I feel for you guys, and potential international customers...I assume Mattel has adequate warehouse facilities in Europe and such, it's a shame something couldn't be worked out where the items could go direct to there instead of having to pass through the US first.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 18:33:03 GMT -5
A lot of people were talking about the international prices being high? Is that something the team is looking into or is it out of their hands? Thanks. It’s out of my hands personally but as I’ve mentioned, I pass along all comments. Having spoken with that team and seeing the breakdowns, the pricing is realistic/accurate. Any perceived “overage” is going to the shipping of a gigantic item. With respect, Steve (😍) - can't you or Mattel SHOW us the breakdowns? I think it would go a long way in putting international customers' minds at rest, so we can understand exactly what we're paying for. It all seems so secretive at the moment...
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Post by dietpizzauk on Apr 15, 2023 18:34:01 GMT -5
The FAQs on the Nitro Stage page of Mattel Creations says that there’s an extra £60 shipping surcharge factored into the shipping to the UK. I’m finding it strange that people are saying Mattel aren’t being up front about this, when it’s clearly being priced out in the FAQ section.
“Why won’t Mattel answer this question that’s being asked so frequently??” as they ignore the Frequently Asked Questions section.
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Post by Action Figure Attack on Apr 15, 2023 18:45:52 GMT -5
It’s out of my hands personally but as I’ve mentioned, I pass along all comments. Having spoken with that team and seeing the breakdowns, the pricing is realistic/accurate. Any perceived “overage” is going to the shipping of a gigantic item. With respect, Steve (😍) - can't you or Mattel SHOW us the breakdowns? I think it would go a long way in putting international customers' minds at rest, so we can understand exactly what we're paying for. It all seems so secretive at the moment... I can’t show anything outside of what they put on the site but there’s def a little more info in the FAQ.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Apr 15, 2023 18:49:50 GMT -5
I really hope this gets backed. I really want the stage and Steiner especially
I had that toybiz Scott and all those figures and the wcw arena… I want it in Ultimate Edition form now lol
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Post by Action Figure Attack on Apr 15, 2023 18:51:35 GMT -5
Was the choice to do red and yellow over Hollywood a deco reason to keep prices lower since so much is jammed into this? It was supposed to be based on PastaMania with chef hat, fork with spaghetti dangling, and plate of pasta, plus everything else that’s still potentially included. If you take a look at the renders, the new head sculpt on that Hulk exactly matches the famous Pastamania image. Unfortunately, approvals fell thorough at the last minute and we had to move with what we had. No time to pivot in a bigger way. Some unfortunate timing.
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Post by CM Tusk on Apr 15, 2023 18:55:46 GMT -5
Was the choice to do red and yellow over Hollywood a deco reason to keep prices lower since so much is jammed into this? It was supposed to be based on PastaMania with chef hat, fork with spaghetti dangling, and plate of pasta, plus everything else that’s still potentially included. If you take a look at the renders, the new head sculpt on that Hulk exactly matches the famous Pastamania image. Unfortunately, approvals fell thorough at the last minute and we had to move with what we had. No time to pivot in a bigger way. Some unfortunate timing. I’ve been pretty outspoken about how much I don’t want more Hogans in the line, though understanding why he’s had so many Ultimates, but that’s a bummer that fell through.
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Post by Action Figure Attack on Apr 15, 2023 18:59:51 GMT -5
It was supposed to be based on PastaMania with chef hat, fork with spaghetti dangling, and plate of pasta, plus everything else that’s still potentially included. If you take a look at the renders, the new head sculpt on that Hulk exactly matches the famous Pastamania image. Unfortunately, approvals fell thorough at the last minute and we had to move with what we had. No time to pivot in a bigger way. Some unfortunate timing. I’ve been pretty outspoken about how much I don’t want more Hogans in the line, though understanding why he’s had so many Ultimates, but that’s a bummer that fell through. If we didn’t have this particular execution in mind, the early backer fig probably would have been someone else.
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Post by NoseBleedcollectibles on Apr 15, 2023 19:01:58 GMT -5
Was the choice to do red and yellow over Hollywood a deco reason to keep prices lower since so much is jammed into this? It was supposed to be based on PastaMania with chef hat, fork with spaghetti dangling, and plate of pasta, plus everything else that’s still potentially included. If you take a look at the renders, the new head sculpt on that Hulk exactly matches the famous Pastamania image. Unfortunately, approvals fell thorough at the last minute and we had to move with what we had. No time to pivot in a bigger way. Some unfortunate timing. All I really care about is the stage, figs r just a bonus to me thank you anyways for including Steiner with Rey.
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