thewrestlingdad
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Post by thewrestlingdad on Apr 17, 2023 21:14:34 GMT -5
WF is a really weird barometer for economic confidence. It’s pronounced thermometer
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Post by AxelSmackdown on Apr 17, 2023 21:52:44 GMT -5
yeah I'm waiting for it to hit 15k before I back it
I'm not part of the problem, Mattel is for not giving us 10 figures and 5 accessory packs with it or I would've backed it 6 times already
plus they gave us big names instead of random jobbers that only 25 people know that don't even have a deal with WWE and probably never will that I still would've complained about because of the attire choices but also because there wasn't a big enough name to draw people in to want to back it
it's all Mattel's fault
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Eric
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Post by Eric on Apr 17, 2023 22:10:57 GMT -5
yeah I'm waiting for it to hit 15k before I back it I'm not part of the problem, Mattel is for not giving us 10 figures and 5 accessory packs with it or I would've backed it 6 times already plus they gave us big names instead of random jobbers that only 25 people know that don't even have a deal with WWE and probably never will that I still would've complained about because of the attire choices but also because there wasn't a big enough name to draw people in to want to back it it's all Mattel's fault You're being so dramatic. All we needed was five guaranteed Eric Bischoff figs with different combinations of shirts and blue jeans with a black jacket to cover the shirt on each one.
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Post by CM Tusk on Apr 17, 2023 22:31:00 GMT -5
WF is a really weird barometer for economic confidence. It’s pronounced thermometer
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Apr 17, 2023 22:33:39 GMT -5
Just wondering….. And maybe I’m in the minority But how many people here on the boards still planning on getting it but haven’t big the bullet yet. Myself I’ll be honest. I plan on backing two but haven’t seen any movement that makes me believe it’s gonna be a reality. So I haven’t jumped in yet. Which is sad cause seems like Mattel’s 2023/24 plan and beyond was to give us figures to accompany this amazing centerpiece. If this fails. I hope everyone is happy with the Wrekkin line or is skilled enough to build customs cause it’s never gonna be offered to the consumer again at this scale That Walmart 3:16 Austin mobile monster truck is gonna run wild on us brother. I might take a break until the Monday Night Wars series arrive. I get too excited and energetic for these crowdfunds.
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Post by gwildor on Apr 17, 2023 22:54:31 GMT -5
Should still release this to whoever backed it minus the figures. They can gladly take my $400+ for just the stage. They need to hit 5000 to be able to produce the stage. Obviously. But never hurts to look for an alternative
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Post by stinkfaceT on Apr 17, 2023 22:57:31 GMT -5
I can’t see not backing this if it was another $40 here in the states. It’s sucks there aren’t the finance options for international buyers, but if you actually want the stage will you let £32 stop you getting a chance at it? It isn't a case of another $40 though. The difference between what USA pays to overseas is $225!! Would you back it if it cost you $625?? If this was $400 I'd see the value and back it. Maybe even multiple. (I backed 10 x New Gen for reference) But at £500 ($625) that's never going to happen. I flat out feel offended that I'm getting charged that much more for the same product than people in the States. Some people are struggling to see value at $400 so try $625 price tag on for moment and feel where our heads and wallets are at concerning backing the project. For the record, I think the stage is ing awesome My $40 remark was in regards to the additional £32 stated in the cost breakdown I referenced in the quoted portion of my reply. Of course you aren’t paying $400 for this if you don’t live in the US… but that applies to every part of your wrestling collection compared to people collecting in the states. I’m not saying $625 isn’t a lot of money as I quoted in my post elvisfan1 did the math based on the price difference based on international shipping, customs fees, tax, what have you and said I posted a calculation a few pages back, so here it is again: - Item cost: £325 - Shipping surcharge: £60, according to the Mattel FAQ. - Total before any VAT/customs: £385 - 20% for VAT - 4% for Duties/Customs (https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/find_commodity) - VAT/Customs always includes the shipping cost (https://www.fedex.com/en-gb/shipping-channel/customs-clearance/duties-taxes.html) - Total VAT/Customs: £92 All-in Total: £477. This is inarguable fact based on all available information. So at £509, it's overcharged by £32” £32 is about $40, and if there was a random unexplainable $40 added to it here I would still back it. I didn’t say you shouldn’t be annoyed about not having a finance option, but besides the extra £32 that’s just what a heavy large box valued at $400 costs for anything you’d purchase from the US.
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thewrestlingdad
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Post by thewrestlingdad on Apr 17, 2023 23:43:17 GMT -5
It’s pronounced thermometer Is that exact scene too? 🙌🏻🤙🏻
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Post by Rocket_Fuel_Merchant on Apr 17, 2023 23:48:39 GMT -5
So, at what point, with it still below 50% funded...do even the most optimistic of us begin to have serious concerns?
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stinkfaceT
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Post by stinkfaceT on Apr 18, 2023 0:02:19 GMT -5
Jonny Flashback in that case, it cost me $431.37 to have sent to Philadelphia. If you want to PayPal or something that amount and pay for shipping via method of your choosing from Philadelphia to you I’d receive and ship to you, especially if you backed multiples.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 18, 2023 0:09:07 GMT -5
My $40 remark was in regards to the additional £32 stated in the cost breakdown I referenced in the quoted portion of my reply. Of course you aren’t paying $400 for this if you don’t live in the US… but that applies to every part of your wrestling collection compared to people collecting in the states. I’m not saying $625 isn’t a lot of money as I quoted in my post elvisfan1 did the math based on the price difference based on international shipping, customs fees, tax, what have you and said I posted a calculation a few pages back, so here it is again: - Item cost: £325 - Shipping surcharge: £60, according to the Mattel FAQ. - Total before any VAT/customs: £385 - 20% for VAT - 4% for Duties/Customs (https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/find_commodity) - VAT/Customs always includes the shipping cost (https://www.fedex.com/en-gb/shipping-channel/customs-clearance/duties-taxes.html) - Total VAT/Customs: £92 All-in Total: £477. This is inarguable fact based on all available information. So at £509, it's overcharged by £32” £32 is about $40, and if there was a random unexplainable $40 added to it here I would still back it. I didn’t say you shouldn’t be annoyed about not having a finance option, but besides the extra £32 that’s just what a heavy large box valued at $400 costs for anything you’d purchase from the US. We're still being needlessly overcharged though - and we're already having to pay more for the extra shipping and tax/duty. It just leaves a bad taste in one's mouth.... eg. if someone is on the fence about whether to back the stage or not, this could certainly sway them. Plus, we have to pay it all now/up-front - rather than pay approx. £385 now, then another £90+ next year when the set is ready for delivery (this is how they did it last time with the New Gen set). And there are no payment plans either, to help soften the blow. As for the "applying to every part of your wrestling collection" - well not really, as apart from Mattel Creations (thanks, guys!! 😠), we don't get charged on things under £135... so it's usually just the extra shipping we have to pay.
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wwecreative
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Post by wwecreative on Apr 18, 2023 0:23:43 GMT -5
Klarna was how I was able to buy 2 of the New Gen arena last crowdfund I also used to to buy Super7 Thundertank and the Super7 Party Wagon both with were over $400. It’s an option to help take the edge off for those considering. I really want this to succeed I know this crowdfund has had its problems But if this doesn’t get backed the reality is it’s ALL OVER
There is no RAW STAGE NO Smackdown fist I don’t even see the point of the WCW ring and Eric Bischoff without this accompanying it.
Theyre not coming back to the table with anything near this scale again I’m still hoping for a Hail Mary to get to at least the 5K
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Bramahummel
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Post by Bramahummel on Apr 18, 2023 0:44:48 GMT -5
Just wondering….. And maybe I’m in the minority But how many people here on the boards still planning on getting it but haven’t big the bullet yet. Myself I’ll be honest. I plan on backing two but haven’t seen any movement that makes me believe it’s gonna be a reality. So I haven’t jumped in yet. Which is sad cause seems like Mattel’s 2023/24 plan and beyond was to give us figures to accompany this amazing centerpiece. If this fails. I hope everyone is happy with the Wrekkin line or is skilled enough to build customs cause it’s never gonna be offered to the consumer again at this scale I will back it for sure. But i wait till May. Just bought the Replica He Man sword for 700 Euros. Im undecided if i back 1 or 2. But we have to back this thing. If everyone doesnt back because "it has no movement" than it cant have a movement 😀 I still believe this thing makes it to 5000. Oh btw. I talked with my tax man: 370 Euro Stage +70 Euro Shipping =440 Euro +19% import tax = 523 Euro +5% custom fees on top because value is more than 150 Euros = 550 Euro + 6 Euro DHL handling fees. ==556 Euro. So they dont overcharge for germans
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Bramahummel
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Post by Bramahummel on Apr 18, 2023 0:53:30 GMT -5
It isn't a case of another $40 though. The difference between what USA pays to overseas is $225!! Would you back it if it cost you $625?? If this was $400 I'd see the value and back it. Maybe even multiple. (I backed 10 x New Gen for reference) But at £500 ($625) that's never going to happen. I flat out feel offended that I'm getting charged that much more for the same product than people in the States. Some people are struggling to see value at $400 so try $625 price tag on for moment and feel where our heads and wallets are at concerning backing the project. For the record, I think the stage is ing awesome My $40 remark was in regards to the additional £32 stated in the cost breakdown I referenced in the quoted portion of my reply. Of course you aren’t paying $400 for this if you don’t live in the US… but that applies to every part of your wrestling collection compared to people collecting in the states. I’m not saying $625 isn’t a lot of money as I quoted in my post elvisfan1 did the math based on the price difference based on international shipping, customs fees, tax, what have you and said I posted a calculation a few pages back, so here it is again: - Item cost: £325 - Shipping surcharge: £60, according to the Mattel FAQ. - Total before any VAT/customs: £385 - 20% for VAT - 4% for Duties/Customs (https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/find_commodity) - VAT/Customs always includes the shipping cost (https://www.fedex.com/en-gb/shipping-channel/customs-clearance/duties-taxes.html) - Total VAT/Customs: £92 All-in Total: £477. This is inarguable fact based on all available information. So at £509, it's overcharged by £32” £32 is about $40, and if there was a random unexplainable $40 added to it here I would still back it. I didn’t say you shouldn’t be annoyed about not having a finance option, but besides the extra £32 that’s just what a heavy large box valued at $400 costs for anything you’d purchase from the US. Shipping is 69. Not only 60 because of the +9 for express air delivery ;-) so its not even overcharged by 32 ;-)
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Jonny Flashback
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Post by Jonny Flashback on Apr 18, 2023 3:33:12 GMT -5
It isn't a case of another $40 though. The difference between what USA pays to overseas is $225!! Would you back it if it cost you $625?? If this was $400 I'd see the value and back it. Maybe even multiple. (I backed 10 x New Gen for reference) But at £500 ($625) that's never going to happen. I flat out feel offended that I'm getting charged that much more for the same product than people in the States. Some people are struggling to see value at $400 so try $625 price tag on for moment and feel where our heads and wallets are at concerning backing the project. For the record, I think the stage is ing awesome My $40 remark was in regards to the additional £32 stated in the cost breakdown I referenced in the quoted portion of my reply. Of course you aren’t paying $400 for this if you don’t live in the US… but that applies to every part of your wrestling collection compared to people collecting in the states. I’m not saying $625 isn’t a lot of money as I quoted in my post elvisfan1 did the math based on the price difference based on international shipping, customs fees, tax, what have you and said I posted a calculation a few pages back, so here it is again: - Item cost: £325 - Shipping surcharge: £60, according to the Mattel FAQ. - Total before any VAT/customs: £385 - 20% for VAT - 4% for Duties/Customs (https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/find_commodity) - VAT/Customs always includes the shipping cost (https://www.fedex.com/en-gb/shipping-channel/customs-clearance/duties-taxes.html) - Total VAT/Customs: £92 All-in Total: £477. This is inarguable fact based on all available information. So at £509, it's overcharged by £32” £32 is about $40, and if there was a random unexplainable $40 added to it here I would still back it. I didn’t say you shouldn’t be annoyed about not having a finance option, but besides the extra £32 that’s just what a heavy large box valued at $400 costs for anything you’d purchase from the US. I'm not saying i don't understand where the charges are coming from or that your calculations are wrong. But at the end of the day its still costing $200 more for me than it would for you.
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elvisfan1
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Post by elvisfan1 on Apr 18, 2023 3:34:32 GMT -5
It isn't a case of another $40 though. The difference between what USA pays to overseas is $225!! Would you back it if it cost you $625?? If this was $400 I'd see the value and back it. Maybe even multiple. (I backed 10 x New Gen for reference) But at £500 ($625) that's never going to happen. I flat out feel offended that I'm getting charged that much more for the same product than people in the States. Some people are struggling to see value at $400 so try $625 price tag on for moment and feel where our heads and wallets are at concerning backing the project. For the record, I think the stage is ing awesome My $40 remark was in regards to the additional £32 stated in the cost breakdown I referenced in the quoted portion of my reply. Of course you aren’t paying $400 for this if you don’t live in the US… but that applies to every part of your wrestling collection compared to people collecting in the states. I’m not saying $625 isn’t a lot of money as I quoted in my post elvisfan1 did the math based on the price difference based on international shipping, customs fees, tax, what have you and said I posted a calculation a few pages back, so here it is again: - Item cost: £325 - Shipping surcharge: £60, according to the Mattel FAQ. - Total before any VAT/customs: £385 - 20% for VAT - 4% for Duties/Customs (https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/find_commodity) - VAT/Customs always includes the shipping cost (https://www.fedex.com/en-gb/shipping-channel/customs-clearance/duties-taxes.html) - Total VAT/Customs: £92 All-in Total: £477. This is inarguable fact based on all available information. So at £509, it's overcharged by £32” £32 is about $40, and if there was a random unexplainable $40 added to it here I would still back it. I didn’t say you shouldn’t be annoyed about not having a finance option, but besides the extra £32 that’s just what a heavy large box valued at $400 costs for anything you’d purchase from the US. My calculation was actually a little different, I have it at a £124 overcharge give or take, not £32. This was another user's calculation.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 18, 2023 3:58:00 GMT -5
My $40 remark was in regards to the additional £32 stated in the cost breakdown I referenced in the quoted portion of my reply. Of course you aren’t paying $400 for this if you don’t live in the US… but that applies to every part of your wrestling collection compared to people collecting in the states. I’m not saying $625 isn’t a lot of money as I quoted in my post elvisfan1 did the math based on the price difference based on international shipping, customs fees, tax, what have you and said I posted a calculation a few pages back, so here it is again: - Item cost: £325 - Shipping surcharge: £60, according to the Mattel FAQ. - Total before any VAT/customs: £385 - 20% for VAT - 4% for Duties/Customs (https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/find_commodity) - VAT/Customs always includes the shipping cost (https://www.fedex.com/en-gb/shipping-channel/customs-clearance/duties-taxes.html) - Total VAT/Customs: £92 All-in Total: £477. This is inarguable fact based on all available information. So at £509, it's overcharged by £32” £32 is about $40, and if there was a random unexplainable $40 added to it here I would still back it. I didn’t say you shouldn’t be annoyed about not having a finance option, but besides the extra £32 that’s just what a heavy large box valued at $400 costs for anything you’d purchase from the US. My calculation was actually a little different, I have it at a £124 overcharge give or take, not £32. This was another user's calculation. That's the thing... why can't Mattel actually show us the price breakdown? It's really not much to ask. All they've said is the £500 includes a £60 shipping surcharge (fair enough) and that the price includes "duty and tax". But it just doesn't add up... for anyone.
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Post by The Gang on Apr 18, 2023 5:05:44 GMT -5
It’s actually shocking that only 2,000 Americans can see the value in this. At $400 including 2 very limited figures, it’s an incredible buy. I guess $400 is a lot of money for some? But I’ve seen some Hasbro figures sell for $700 to $800 now on eBay for one MOC figure so really $400 is not a lot of money in the world of collectibles. Still lots of time to go though so I think it will make it or at least I hope it does.
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Warriah'
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Post by Warriah' on Apr 18, 2023 5:36:01 GMT -5
I honestly think that even if this miraculously backs Mattel aren’t doing anymore crowdfunders in the future for WWE. It’s just proved to be too risky I’d even be willing to bet that they’ve already scraped the Raw stage after this fiasco. I’m almost certain. Risky in what way? Embarrassment? Cause I mean, by definition, there's no "risk" to doing a crowdfund outside of maybe the idea that if something doesn't get funded there won't be a next one, but in this hypothetical it would be funded so the closest thing a risk would have paid off anyway. They spend time and money rolling this stuff out, designing it, marketing etc. If it fails it’s a waste of resources for mattel.
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Post by The Everlasting Spirit © on Apr 18, 2023 6:21:38 GMT -5
It isn't a case of another $40 though. The difference between what USA pays to overseas is $225!! Would you back it if it cost you $625?? If this was $400 I'd see the value and back it. Maybe even multiple. (I backed 10 x New Gen for reference) But at £500 ($625) that's never going to happen. I flat out feel offended that I'm getting charged that much more for the same product than people in the States. Some people are struggling to see value at $400 so try $625 price tag on for moment and feel where our heads and wallets are at concerning backing the project. For the record, I think the stage is ing awesome My $40 remark was in regards to the additional £32 stated in the cost breakdown I referenced in the quoted portion of my reply. Of course you aren’t paying $400 for this if you don’t live in the US… but that applies to every part of your wrestling collection compared to people collecting in the states. I’m not saying $625 isn’t a lot of money as I quoted in my post elvisfan1 did the math based on the price difference based on international shipping, customs fees, tax, what have you and said I posted a calculation a few pages back, so here it is again: - Item cost: £325 - Shipping surcharge: £60, according to the Mattel FAQ. - Total before any VAT/customs: £385 - 20% for VAT - 4% for Duties/Customs (https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/find_commodity) - VAT/Customs always includes the shipping cost (https://www.fedex.com/en-gb/shipping-channel/customs-clearance/duties-taxes.html) - Total VAT/Customs: £92 All-in Total: £477. This is inarguable fact based on all available information. So at £509, it's overcharged by £32” £32 is about $40, and if there was a random unexplainable $40 added to it here I would still back it. I didn’t say you shouldn’t be annoyed about not having a finance option, but besides the extra £32 that’s just what a heavy large box valued at $400 costs for anything you’d purchase from the US. If mattel would ship it in bulk directly to the UK and use a wholesaler or 3PL to distribute domestically then the tax and duties would only be payable on the cost/manufacturer price rather than the retail price to the consumer. Theyd also avoid the need to pay dity twice (China to US then US to UK). This could reduce the tax burden plus the freight cost as it wouldn't be £69 per unit.nin likelihood it is likely to be more £20 insured on business rates. Give or take a few £ depending on weight. I reckon they could shave off £100 easily even considering the 3PL fees. Add that to the obvious £40 overcharge and you have something more around the £350 to £400 mark!
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