The ultimate's are no longer in scale with elites

Are we talking size or height? Height is the biggest issue with me, but if the ultimates are a tad bit bigger, size wize, it doesn’t bother me.

I wish NECA made the WWE figures. They would be so much better.

WWE Ultimates and NECA Ultimates are the exact same price now ($32.99), and the WWE “Ultimates” are basically over priced Elites with a worse looking torso and now the boots have a toe joint. Not really an upgrade, and the Ultimate torsos actually make most ultimates look worse than their elite versions.

NECA uses way more unique parts, the figures are painted better, the joints aren’t as faulty,…..and again, they are the SAME price as the WWE figures that basically use the same parts for every figure with a different head on them.

I guarantee you that NECA wouldn’t have made 13 years of shawn michaels figures with the wrong boots.

I know it hasn’t been exact for a long time, but the figures should be consistent in terms of size. Like, there shouldn’t be such glaring issues in the scale differences.

NECA hasn’t been just statues in over a decade. The Neca ultimates have more articulation than WWE ultimates. I’ve never had any issues with any paint or joints on NECA. Some people get bootlegs off eBay, but if you buy LEGIT NECA figures, they are the best on the market in my opinion.

WWE figures have waaaay more paint apps issues and faulty joints from what I read online and from what I’ve experienced with my own collection.

It can be annoying but the elites aren’t always scaled correctly and it takes ages for them to change recipes.

The skinny elite torso is used for a wide range of wrestlers…and there’s no slightly wider torso the next size being upper being ripped.

So Ultimates tend to look more accurate to real life I think although that’s not always the case.

I care about scale and im not afraid to admit it.
Just my opinion but any efforts made to keep them in scale with each other and being as accurate as possible is a good thing to me and should be encouraged.

Was kinda bored tonight and stumbled on this thread, so I figured I would do some comparison shots. So, for clarity's sake (with one exception that I'll get to) I pulled out one Ultimate and one Elite to compare (so there could be Elite Edges or Elite Jeff's and the Fan Central Ultimate Jeff that run into scale issues) of corresponding figures I have:

















(Did this extra photo for Jeff to try and match up the torsos)







Now, the only one of these figures I noticed what I would consider a significant enough to notice scale issue was on Jeff Hardy's height, with the Ultimate liking a smidge taller. However, I think the issue is more with the way the head sits than the actual scale of the figure.

Now, here's the one that jumped out at me:

At first look, the Fan Central Ultimate Shawn looks way out of scale with the SummerSlam Elite:





However, when comparing to another Elite as well as the other Ultimate, it seems that the issue is more with the woefully undersized mid-late 2000s HBK head than it is the Ultimate.

That reminds me of that Kofi/Morrison 2 pack with the midget Morrison.

Honestly I’ve had issues with the Elite scaling for awhile. None of the Elite Perfects or RVDs are thick enough. Most of the Takers aren’t thick enough, and don’t get me started on the Hogans with the Sheamus torso. Ultimates are typically better (with a few exceptions). There’s still some issues (the legs are sometimes too lanky, they sometimes have that Final Count quality, and Hardy’s Amazon fig is way too thick). I can’t really get too hot about the scaling since I was there for the Jakks days of Taker being slightly taller than Jeff Hardy and suited bodies TOWERING over everyone besides Andre. They are still mass produced toys, not premium limited run figures where everyone is perfectly scaled. A few really bother me, but most are at least tolerable. That said, it’s to be expected that the Ultimates should be more accurate, as that’s the premium line. Elites are about as good as they’ve ever been, and basics have completely fallen by the wayside.

The Rick Rude issue is the body mold.
The body is quite a bit longer than the elites which make the Ultimate Rick Rude too tall even next to other Ultimates like Razor and Hulk.

From Pelvis down rudes parts are the same size.

So I think we are going to have this issue with every UE figure with this torso going forward. Which is a big shame.

(Isn’t the next to get it Seth Rollins?)