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Post by WCWThunderRosa on May 4, 2023 11:20:07 GMT -5
Colour blindness strikes again. The only thing the Mattel fig has going for it is the new head and the chest hair. What a crap figure for the extra price. The new head that has the tattoo on his face
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on May 4, 2023 11:23:44 GMT -5
You can clearly see in this photo (which I believe is actually from Wrestlemania 38) that the tattoo stops just below his jawline. The placement on the neck by Jazwares is correct and yet people still say it should extend onto his face like Mattel have been placing it.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on May 4, 2023 12:08:40 GMT -5
As others have said, I really wish they would have done the pants the correct gold instead of baby poop yellow. I donโt know how they could allow that to happen or who approved that for a Mattel creations collectors figure. Very disappointing.
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Post by Old Zeke on May 4, 2023 12:50:32 GMT -5
That proto image was false advertising.
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Post by PJ on May 4, 2023 13:29:59 GMT -5
The figures never look like the renders. The renders are basically concept art.
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Post by โ๐๐ฃ๐ ๐๐ ๐๐๐๐ on May 4, 2023 13:46:39 GMT -5
The figures never look like the renders. The renders are basically concept art. What if that beloved DM Sting you have in your signature was the correct blue on the render, and then they released it with purple tights? Its not a good excuse and it certainly is not concept art. Maybe hand sketches or just simple mock ups by combining real images with a blank 3D model of a Mattel figure. Tights and coat deco drawn out on a flat surface in sections. Concept art for a figures design is somewhere along the design process but not the render of the final product. Also an important note, this figure is drastically different because we had no choice but to purchase it based off the provided render. Any other figures that look different from render to final product, we can wait for the releases and judge them then. We had to buy this a year in advance when this photo is basically all we went off of.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on May 4, 2023 13:51:37 GMT -5
The figures never look like the renders. The renders are basically concept art. Well they had the right concept at leastโฆ
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Post by MWFD on May 4, 2023 14:36:29 GMT -5
Iโll also add - on any further Cody Ultimates I hope they give him the Rick Rude torso. Cody is in phenomenal shape now compared to when he returned at WM 38. Thaaaat might be a stretch. Heโs in great shape, yes. Rick Rude shape? Few in the history ever were, at least when it came to upper body. Those chicken legs sure did stand out at the Slammys though.
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Post by PJ on May 4, 2023 15:40:16 GMT -5
The figures never look like the renders. The renders are basically concept art. What if that beloved DM Sting you have in your signature was the correct blue on the render, and then they released it with purple tights? Its not a good excuse and it certainly is not concept art. Maybe hand sketches or just simple mock ups by combining real images with a blank 3D model of a Mattel figure. Tights and coat deco drawn out on a flat surface in sections. Concept art for a figures design is somewhere along the design process but not the render of the final product.ย Also an important note, this figure is drastically different because we had no choice but to purchase it based off the provided render. Any other figures that look different from render to final product, we can wait for the releases and judge them then. We had to buy this a year in advance when this photo is basically all we went off of.ย I wasnโt even talking the colors, just the sculpt. The renders never look like the final product. The limbs are always thicker or more natural looking in the renders. And thereโs not been an UE torso that has actually looked like Codyโs render. But if you want to talk colors the figures even if the gold was the correct shade of gold it will never truly look as good as the renders because thereโs no paint washes on them. With the gold for this figureโs being different than the renders I would bet that the gold that was used is probably the best โgoldโ plastic they have for it to be molded in. And we know they arenโt going to paint the whole leg mold. Itโs going to be cast in the main color with the secondary colors painted on. Look how many folds/wrinkles the renders boots have. The actual Sting/Cody boots never look that good in figure form. While the sculpt might be there the details donโt really show up, because they donโt do a wash on the figures to bring it out. People say it should be more detailed because itโs a premium figure. But just like with the Nitro set Codyโs a limited production run item. Iโm sure it didnโt generate the same production numbers as a mass retail UE figure does. So that means the production cost for this figure is higher than what it is for your standard UE. Itโs already has the special packaging than a regular UE which I am sure ate up a good amount of the budget. So with the figure if thereโs more details added to this Cody (like painting the tights a darker gold) than what a standard mass retail UE has then the production cost would have to be higher as would the MSRP. Basically for Mattel the figure needs to be designed like your standard mass retail UE figure but with the special packaging to fit in the higher operation cost of a lower production run. Where the people who ordered it thinks because it costs more it should be given a larger budget for more details to it, but unfortunately thatโs not how it works. Iโm not saying either side is right or wrong. Are there things I wish were different? Sure. I wish they used the tights leg mold so there were some wrinkles in it. And yes I wish the gold was darker. But the figure weโre getting is what I expected it to be when I was ordering it.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on May 4, 2023 15:51:08 GMT -5
Iโll also add - on any further Cody Ultimates I hope they give him the Rick Rude torso. Cody is in phenomenal shape now compared to when he returned at WM 38. Thaaaat might be a stretch. Heโs in great shape, yes. Rick Rude shape? Few in the history ever were, at least when it came to upper body. Those chicken legs sure did stand out at the Slammys though. I just opened ultimate Rollins and heโs got the UE4 Shawn torso but with butterfly joints. I think itโd be a great torso for Cody. Slender enough to look realistic but with great bulk for the size
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Post by hbkowns on May 4, 2023 16:59:23 GMT -5
Not a fan of the torso, gives him a barrel chest
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Post by TheHitmanKid on May 4, 2023 17:18:25 GMT -5
I don't like the "gold" color used for the tights. I'm glad I didn't pick it up.
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Post by AttitudeLegendCollector on May 4, 2023 17:24:02 GMT -5
Woof! Whole host of issues with thisโฆat no point should a Jazwares figure be better than a Mattel ultimate.
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Post by eatushsa2 on May 4, 2023 18:38:11 GMT -5
I'm glad I went with the Supreme figure rather than this one, it's way better. Generally speaking I feel the Ultimates are going down in quality, the recent jacked Eddie, the fragile drop down hips, the Jimmy Uso that's clearly Jey Uso, and just part choices in general.
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Post by judas on May 4, 2023 18:42:42 GMT -5
What if that beloved DM Sting you have in your signature was the correct blue on the render, and then they released it with purple tights? Its not a good excuse and it certainly is not concept art. Maybe hand sketches or just simple mock ups by combining real images with a blank 3D model of a Mattel figure. Tights and coat deco drawn out on a flat surface in sections. Concept art for a figures design is somewhere along the design process but not the render of the final product.ย Also an important note, this figure is drastically different because we had no choice but to purchase it based off the provided render. Any other figures that look different from render to final product, we can wait for the releases and judge them then. We had to buy this a year in advance when this photo is basically all we went off of.ย I wasnโt even talking the colors, just the sculpt. The renders never look like the final product. The limbs are always thicker or more natural looking in the renders. And thereโs not been an UE torso that has actually looked like Codyโs render. But if you want to talk colors the figures even if the gold was the correct shade of gold it will never truly look as good as the renders because thereโs no paint washes on them. With the gold for this figureโs being different than the renders I would bet that the gold that was used is probably the best โgoldโ plastic they have for it to be molded in. And we know they arenโt going to paint the whole leg mold. Itโs going to be cast in the main color with the secondary colors painted on. Look how many folds/wrinkles the renders boots have. The actual Sting/Cody boots never look that good in figure form. While the sculpt might be there the details donโt really show up, because they donโt do a wash on the figures to bring it out. People say it should be more detailed because itโs a premium figure. But just like with the Nitro set Codyโs a limited production run item. Iโm sure it didnโt generate the same production numbers as a mass retail UE figure does. So that means the production cost for this figure is higher than what it is for your standard UE. Itโs already has the special packaging than a regular UE which I am sure ate up a good amount of the budget. So with the figure if thereโs more details added to this Cody (like painting the tights a darker gold) than what a standard mass retail UE has then the production cost would have to be higher as would the MSRP. Basically for Mattel the figure needs to be designed like your standard mass retail UE figure but with the special packaging to fit in the higher operation cost of a lower production run. Where the people who ordered it thinks because it costs more it should be given a larger budget for more details to it, but unfortunately thatโs not how it works. Iโm not saying either side is right or wrong. Are there things I wish were different? Sure. I wish they used the tights leg mold so there were some wrinkles in it. And yes I wish the gold was darker. But the figure weโre getting is what I expected it to be when I was ordering it. I honestly doubt this is what you expected when you ordered the fig at a premium price. I think youโre justifying it to yourself. Whole lot of stretching there. - The tattoo is crap and the placement makes no sense. - The torso looks off - The gold is incorrect, seriously, look at goldust, stardust, rey figs etcโฆ they can mold plastic in the correct gold. This isnโt even gold, itโs a weird yellow/green colour. - The tiny knee print decoโs. Compare to jakks supreme. - The coat doesnโt fit right even compared to the first production example which was shown. It doesnโt close correctly on the chest where the Velcro is put. If you excuse everything then thereโs no reason for a company to put things right. I donโt have any skin in the game anymore, I gave up on Mattel and just collect funkoโs but this is a premium priced figure and Bill has messed it up.
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Post by Xรฆro #FakeCollector on May 4, 2023 18:59:30 GMT -5
This not a case of "you can never please everyone"....The coat is FLAT OUT AWFUL. If you like it, you have low standards. It's cheap looking and thin as hell. I'd be embarrassed to display him wearing it. Whereas the Supreme Cody, I was literally texting friends about the coat.ย It's night and day. Again, Mattel needs to be better with their decisions surrounding Ultimates. I'm aware that budget plays a role, but they can still do better.
...totally disagree. Personally, I prefer this Mattel one. I always prefer soft-goods over plastic/swappable arms jackets and coats... I think it actually gives the figures a more premium look and feel. So there. Sorry but you're not allowed to have a differing opinion. If you do you just have lOw StAnDaRdS
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Post by Xรฆro #FakeCollector on May 4, 2023 19:03:03 GMT -5
I really do understand anyone's gripe with this Cody fig. The figure going out in the mail is far off from the photo we preordered. Objectively it looks so different side-by-side. The delivery of the torso on the final product even looks nothing like it does in the render. The colors have no comparison. If you look closely at the tights deco, detail was cut and different deco was stretched out to fill the space of on the crotch piece.ย I'm not going to be in the "I'm canceling my $45 figure now worth $200" boat but I much prefer the Elite 101 to this. And I'm someone who really loves the Ultimate line. Looks even worse when put side by side. Definitely the last time I'll be doing a made to order pre order via Mattel Creations
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2023 19:16:01 GMT -5
Seeing the render and the final product side by side absolutely breaks my heart.
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Post by HHH316 on May 4, 2023 19:19:28 GMT -5
Gotta be honest, I like the Supreme more.
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Post by J-MANN on May 4, 2023 19:19:33 GMT -5
Seeing the render and the final product side by side absolutely breaks my heart. Itโs mind blowing. And we had to pay even more to get this thing.
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