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Post by AdamBomb on Feb 26, 2008 16:38:16 GMT -5
I just became a Cena fan.
Anyone remember when Austin walked out, and the Rock gave that big speech about how the WWE is his home and he wouldn't leave? About how Steve Austin took his ball and went home? SO DID HE.
Look, I get why he left... I get the more money, and less injury factor, but I don't like someone getting on national television, running someone else down, and flat out LYING to millions of people about not leaving.
At the Hall of Fame, I see people chanting for "one more match" and I see the Rock, raising an eyebrow, and saying, "never say never."
...unfortunately, I don't believe he'll mean it.
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Post by dangerpeanut on Feb 26, 2008 16:49:30 GMT -5
I guess someone who has always had everything handed to him couldn't possibly understand what it's like to work his way up, pay his dues, achieve every possible honor there is in his business, and then proudly look at his career and say "I've had a great run, it's time to let the new guys take over, and do something else with my life. For a guy who's character is so big on respect this *sshole doesn't know the meaning of the word.
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Post by T1 on Feb 26, 2008 16:51:57 GMT -5
I guess someone who has always had everything handed to him couldn't possibly understand what it's like to work his way up, pay his dues, achieve every possible honor there is in his business, and then proudly look at his career and say "I've had a great run, it's time to let the new guys take over, and do something else with my life. For a guy who's character is so big on respect this *sshole doesn't know the meaning of the word. Cena wasn't handed everything to him. He worked for almost 3 years before winning the WWE Championship. And he was WAY over when he won the title- anybody who says he didn't deserve, at the very least, his first title reign is an idiot. Hell, the guy was super over less than a year after his debut. Sure, 3 years isn't that long but it's not his fault that the fans loved him.
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Post by BigShab421 on Feb 26, 2008 16:53:13 GMT -5
Cena gets points for this.
I feel the same way, he turned his back, and we hear that the Rock thinks "Having one match at Mania or an appearance on the 15th anniversary show, will hurt his movie star credibility."
Now Rock, if you wouldn't have caught on in WWE, you would'nt have credibility as a movie star, now would ya?
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Post by dangerpeanut on Feb 26, 2008 16:56:17 GMT -5
I guess someone who has always had everything handed to him couldn't possibly understand what it's like to work his way up, pay his dues, achieve every possible honor there is in his business, and then proudly look at his career and say "I've had a great run, it's time to let the new guys take over, and do something else with my life. For a guy who's character is so big on respect this *sshole doesn't know the meaning of the word. Cena wasn't handed everything to him. He worked for almost 3 years before winning the WWE Championship. And he was WAY over when he won the title- anybody who says he didn't deserve, at the very least, his first title reign is an idiot. Hell, the guy was super over less than a year after his debut. Sure, 3 years isn't that long but it's not his fault that the fans loved him. You John Cena fans need to stop saying that people who don't feel he deserves the belt are idiots. Because I don't think he deserves what he's gotten, and I have every right to that opinion without being called an idiot.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2008 16:57:34 GMT -5
Rock>cena
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Post by chumped on Feb 26, 2008 16:57:49 GMT -5
The Rock > Cena. End of story.
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Post by Adam3s - V1 on Feb 26, 2008 16:58:44 GMT -5
^^^ It's his opinion that you're an idiot and he was every right to it. Also Cena deserved his first title just as much as The Rock did his. They were both the most over either face/heel and were great on the mic and were cash cows. Only difference is Cena didn't get have his family to help him get a contract easily.
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Post by Stevo on Feb 26, 2008 17:04:44 GMT -5
On the topic of paying dues, I'm afraid anything said about getting the title too soon also relate to The Rock. He was pushed wayyyy too early for his own good. Its a VERY good thing that The Rock feuded with, and laid down for, Foley, because that's what really started his main event push. The focus going into Survivor Series wasn't even focused on The Rock. Without Foley and Vince, The Rock would never have stayed afloat as a top contender for the title.
Now then, Cena held the belt for some 10 months in his first run and didn't do/have/lay down for anyone or anything, and its pretty obvious, because come Wrestlemania 22, he was booed out of the building and hated by a good chunk of fans.
So, what's the real difference between The Rock and Cena's first reigns? The Rock made it work and the WWF booked it right, while Cena floundered.
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Post by DontHassleTheHoff on Feb 26, 2008 17:08:34 GMT -5
Wow, i thing this just made me respect cena. I completly agree with him, the rock has turned his back on loyal fans who yet still make up a large group of people who watch his films, which are often terrible films but people watch because of his wrestling past.
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Post by Controversial Maverick PUNK on Feb 26, 2008 17:09:36 GMT -5
I just became a Cena fan. Anyone remember when Austin walked out, and the Rock gave that big speech about how the WWE is his home and he wouldn't leave? About how Steve Austin took his ball and went home? SO DID HE. Yep.. I remember that - the speech about how he'll come down to the ring, with a walker, when he's 80 years old, still saying "just bring it".. What a load of bollocks.. Johnson took the money and ran, at the earliest opportunity he could.. Cena is 100% right..
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Post by Fury on Feb 26, 2008 17:11:45 GMT -5
People are acting like The Rock is saying " you" to the WWE. The Rock has done absolutely nothing wrong in doing what he did. People like Austin/Foley/Hogan all jump at the chance to get some exposure not really because they love the business (well maybe Austin is, but the other 2 Foley to promote another outside venture and Hogan for the paycheck and then returning to bashing McMahon & The WWE). I'm sure The Rock knows his roots and he doesn't totally ignore them, he's just moved on to a career that is probably more satisfying for him. Plus he's appearing at Wrestlemania weekend, if he doesn't appear in person at Wrestlemania XXIV (because he'll be in the area) then I think people have a right to complain. Otherwise Rock has done nothing wrong.
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Post by T1 on Feb 26, 2008 17:21:27 GMT -5
Cena wasn't handed everything to him. He worked for almost 3 years before winning the WWE Championship. And he was WAY over when he won the title- anybody who says he didn't deserve, at the very least, his first title reign is an idiot. Hell, the guy was super over less than a year after his debut. Sure, 3 years isn't that long but it's not his fault that the fans loved him. You John Cena fans need to stop saying that people who don't feel he deserves the belt are idiots. Because I don't think he deserves what he's gotten, and I have every right to that opinion without being called an idiot. Well then tell me who DID deserve to end JBL's nine-month title reign? Cena was incredibly over. Whether you like it or not, Cena & Batista were so ridiculously over heading into WM21, there's no way they could've lost. Besides, it took Rock even less time to win the title. It only took him two years..
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Post by OverTheEdge on Feb 26, 2008 17:23:14 GMT -5
I, for one, completely agree with Cena.
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Post by dgnr8 on Feb 26, 2008 17:25:29 GMT -5
Sounds to me like Cena has tried to convince Dwayne to make appearances or even another short run, but Johnson has refused cold. Theres probably more to this than any smark knows, but at face value, I agree with Cena completely. The Rock owes ALL of his success to the business that made him a star. He could at least give a little back every now and again.
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Post by Mr. McCluer on Feb 26, 2008 17:31:42 GMT -5
the rock said it himself "vince mcmahon didnt make the rock, The Rock didnt even make the rock, the people made the rock just like the constitution says for the people by the people!, the rock was born in the wwe he will never leave the wwe, and as God as his witness he will always be the peoples champ!"
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Post by [MJH] on Feb 26, 2008 17:37:46 GMT -5
some of that article is bullshit.
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Post by HHH316 on Feb 26, 2008 17:38:29 GMT -5
I might not like Cena's ring work, but he has been a stand up guy outside of the ring. With that being said, I have a new found respect for Cena. I cannot believe other wrestlers dont feel the same way, they just dont open their mouth about it.
Props to you John Cena.
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Post by Mike33PA on Feb 26, 2008 17:44:42 GMT -5
Who gives a crapwhat Cena thinks of Rocks choices regarding his wrestling and movie career. Cena has no business making any statements on this given the fact that he is in the same boat as Rock getting movie deals. But wait....the difference is Rock is and always will be a much bigger star & legend as a wrestler and lets face it as a movie star as well. Further more who gives anyone the right to question a man for expanding his horizons as a performer let alone sparing his body the aggravation wrestling takes on these performers bodies over their lives. Cena fans here is your reality....he sells merchandise and the asses in the seats do not know a good wrestler when they see one albeit "The Rock".....
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Post by @PaulGriffin on Feb 26, 2008 17:45:55 GMT -5
Before any of you pass judgment. I suggest you listen to the actual show.
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