becca
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Post by becca on Oct 28, 2007 18:28:41 GMT -5
What would I rather have, a mark who boos a bad guy despite them being a great wrestler, or a smart mark who cheers the guys that they're told are good and therefor try and tell everyone else how good they are. I've been in front of both kinds, and both are equally as bad. There's something wrong with someone who boos a heel even though they are a good wrestler?  ? Hello? Isn't part of being a good wrestler being able to get the fans to buy your character, so the best possible respect to give to a guy is that you actually hate him when he's a heel? It should be a testament to how good of a wrestler you are if you can be booed as a heel when you are wrestling technically well, because it means that your charisma and storytelling skills are strong enough to convince the crowd and make them care. Take Danielson for example. Whenever I see him, he is awesomely entertaining and a great wrestler (in my opinion) and so to voice my appreciation, I boo, because he's doing his job and doing it well. But maybe I'm wrong, I'm not a wrestler after all, so I don't know the right way to enjoy wrestling. |
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Post by Kliff and the Brewers on Oct 28, 2007 18:35:31 GMT -5
People like Chris Hero are a dime a dozen. I'm done. |
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Post by gatecitysinner on Oct 28, 2007 18:59:23 GMT -5
No no, please, fill me in what what makes you think Chris Hero is such a great wrestler.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 28, 2007 19:05:06 GMT -5
People like Chris Hero are a dime a dozen. I'm done. I cant believe he said that. This is exactly what I have been talking about. Hero was trained by Regal Gatecity. And whats even funnier is Regal and Taylor adore the hell out of Hero. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 28, 2007 19:06:24 GMT -5
I did call out every wrestling fan. As for saying there are 250 wrestlers for every Hero, that's false. People like Chris Hero are a dime a dozen. You putting him in the same sentence as Steven Regal is so absurd. There are about 2,000 wrestlers for every Regal. How many locker rooms have you been in? Stop assuming I wrestle once a month in the same place everytime. I've wrestled for a lot of different companies in a lot of different states for a lot of different promoters. I see it now, you worked for a while a few years ago. How many places did you go? Next you'll tell me that you have the passion for wrestling and that's all that counts. Please man. You ever heard of the Barbarian? The man never talks about wrestling, he'll go on for hours about the Oakland Raiders. Bobby Eaton is a big baseball fan. Jimmy Hart talked more about his favorite places to eat in Memphis than anything. The Steiner brothers love to talk about college football. Don't give me that "good wrestlers live and breathe wrestling" schitck, real wrestlers do study tapes and train hard, but they don't constantly talk about wrestling. Barbarian? Bobby Eaton? The Steiners? Where is the good wrestler in the list? Those are a bunch of over the hill has beens that guys like Quack and Hero could wrestle circles around even if those guys were in their prime. |
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Post by gatecitysinner on Oct 28, 2007 19:14:10 GMT -5
Kurrgan and Brakkus were trained at the dungeon, they're no Owen Harts and Chris Jerichos. Where you get trained has nothing to do with what kind of wrestler you are.
And for your comments regarding Bobby Eaton, Barbarian and the Steiner brothers, you've got to be kidding me. Rick and Scott Steiner are 100x the wrestlers Hero and Quack are, and Bobby Eaton can work his ass off.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2007 19:27:39 GMT -5
Rick and Scott Steiner 100 times better then Chris Hero and Mike Quackenbush?
You, sir, need to lay off the drugs.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 28, 2007 19:37:38 GMT -5
Kurrgan and Brakkus were trained at the dungeon, they're no Owen Harts and Chris Jerichos. Where you get trained has nothing to do with what kind of wrestler you are. And for your comments regarding Bobby Eaton, Barbarian and the Steiner brothers, you've got to be kidding me. Rick and Scott Steiner are 100x the wrestlers Hero and Quack are, and Bobby Eaton can work his ass off. I dont care how hard Eaton works. He is no Quackenbush. Its not his fault per say. He just doesnt have the physical tools to do so. And the Steiners are like 90 each. Up until this year, Rick Steiner was a realtor b/c he was so washed up. But TNA and their nostalgia came around and signed him cuz he was Scott's brother. Not sure why they ever signed Scott though. |
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Post by AP on Oct 28, 2007 19:50:49 GMT -5
You guys are all just making yourselves look stupid.
calm down and enjoy who you enjoy
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Post by fallenhero on Oct 28, 2007 20:14:56 GMT -5
I did call out every wrestling fan. As for saying there are 250 wrestlers for every Hero, that's false. People like Chris Hero are a dime a dozen. You putting him in the same sentence as Steven Regal is so absurd. There are about 2,000 wrestlers for every Regal. How many locker rooms have you been in? Stop assuming I wrestle once a month in the same place everytime. I've wrestled for a lot of different companies in a lot of different states for a lot of different promoters. I see it now, you worked for a while a few years ago. How many places did you go? Next you'll tell me that you have the passion for wrestling and that's all that counts. Please man. You ever heard of the Barbarian? The man never talks about wrestling, he'll go on for hours about the Oakland Raiders. Bobby Eaton is a big baseball fan. Jimmy Hart talked more about his favorite places to eat in Memphis than anything. The Steiner brothers love to talk about college football. Don't give me that "good wrestlers live and breathe wrestling" schitck, real wrestlers do study tapes and train hard, but they don't constantly talk about wrestling. Barbarian? Bobby Eaton? The Steiners? Where is the good wrestler in the list? Those are a bunch of over the hill has beens that guys like Quack and Hero could wrestle circles around even if those guys were in their prime. Uh...the Steiners are the greatest tag team EVER. Maybe you should dig your head out of your ass and watch a match of theirs from WCW 1990-1992 or even their WWF crapwith Owen and Bret or Money Inc. Just because they're not indy doesn't mean they're bad. And Eaton? Please, in his prime, that mother  er is better than Quack and Hero. I'm now fully convinced you have no idea what a good wrestler is, and that you started watching during the attitude era. Please don't ever give your opinion on classic wrestlers again. Thank you. |
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Post by lariato on Oct 28, 2007 20:17:31 GMT -5
Yeah, Showstopper, Steiners are basically the greatest tag team that ever lived. Without them, there wouldn't be barely any tag teams, much less indy ones.
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Post by the franchise on Oct 28, 2007 20:37:52 GMT -5
It is hard to say that the Steiners are greatest tag team ever. What about the British Bulldogs, The Hart Foundation, and The Road Warriors. The Eliminators and Dudleys also could be in the mix.
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Post by lariato on Oct 28, 2007 20:47:59 GMT -5
It is hard to say that the Steiners are greatest tag team ever. What about the British Bulldogs, The Hart Foundation, and The Road Warriors. The Eliminators and Dudleys also could be in the mix. Yes, those are some also amazing teams. I would've said Eliminators, but I thought that they'd be too unknown to most to be counted. Same with Harts, and Bulldogs. |
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Post by fallenhero on Oct 28, 2007 20:49:42 GMT -5
It is hard to say that the Steiners are greatest tag team ever. What about the British Bulldogs, The Hart Foundation, and The Road Warriors. The Eliminators and Dudleys also could be in the mix. See, The Harts and Bulldogs were rarely given the time they deserved to really show how great they were. I have no doubt they're two of the best teams ever, maybe even as good as The Steiners. Hawk and Animal were great, and have a lot of good matches under their belt, but they're right under Harts/Bulldogs/Steiners. Eliminators were good, and the Dudleys are pretty good back in ECW. All were really good teams, but you have a point with Harts and Bulldogs. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2007 20:54:30 GMT -5
common guys it's fairly obviously gatecitysinner is an old school mark, there's just WAY to much bias shown here.
you can enjoy your boring ass old school midsouth where the whole match is lame headlocks, a few throws and other boring crapfor a whole hour and i'll enjoy my entertaining IWA Midsouth where the guys go out there and bust their ass in the air and on the mat.
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Post by Kliff and the Brewers on Oct 28, 2007 21:11:57 GMT -5
WF-OF is back! Alive and controversial!
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 28, 2007 22:33:56 GMT -5
Barbarian? Bobby Eaton? The Steiners? Where is the good wrestler in the list? Those are a bunch of over the hill has beens that guys like Quack and Hero could wrestle circles around even if those guys were in their prime. Uh...the Steiners are the greatest tag team EVER. Maybe you should dig your head out of your ass and watch a match of theirs from WCW 1990-1992 or even their WWF **** with Owen and Bret or Money Inc. Just because they're not indy doesn't mean they're bad. And Eaton? Please, in his prime, that mother er is better than Quack and Hero. I'm now fully convinced you have no idea what a good wrestler is, and that you started watching during the attitude era. Please don't ever give your opinion on classic wrestlers again. Thank you. Yeah....I started watching in the attitude era. Sure. Whatever. The Steiners are not the greatest tag team of all time. Can they be put into the discussion? Absolutely. Before Scott got really jacked up on steroids.....the guy could go. Both he and Rick have fabulous amateur backgrounds. But with LOD, The Hart Foundation, The Bulldogs and Edge/Christian and even The Hardys.......give me all of those ahead of The Steiners. Fast forward to modern day Steiners.......they cant carry Gillberg or Disco Inferno's jock. Note the sarcasm and over exaggeration and try not to take everything literally. I'm fully convinced you dont know what a good wrestler is if you come here to insult Quack and Hero by trying to say the modern day Steiners are better. Next think you will tell me is that Paul Roma was the best Horsemen ever. ;D Dont ever try and get into a debate about classic wrestling with me. |
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Post by fallenhero on Oct 28, 2007 23:50:16 GMT -5
Uh...the Steiners are the greatest tag team EVER. Maybe you should dig your head out of your ass and watch a match of theirs from WCW 1990-1992 or even their WWF **** with Owen and Bret or Money Inc. Just because they're not indy doesn't mean they're bad. And Eaton? Please, in his prime, that mother er is better than Quack and Hero. I'm now fully convinced you have no idea what a good wrestler is, and that you started watching during the attitude era. Please don't ever give your opinion on classic wrestlers again. Thank you. Yeah....I started watching in the attitude era. Sure. Whatever. The Steiners are not the greatest tag team of all time. Can they be put into the discussion? Absolutely. Before Scott got really jacked up on steroids.....the guy could go. Both he and Rick have fabulous amateur backgrounds. But with LOD, The Hart Foundation, The Bulldogs and Edge/Christian and even The Hardys.......give me all of those ahead of The Steiners. Fast forward to modern day Steiners.......they cant carry Gillberg or Disco Inferno's jock. Note the sarcasm and over exaggeration and try not to take everything literally. I'm fully convinced you dont know what a good wrestler is if you come here to insult Quack and Hero by trying to say the modern day Steiners are better. Next think you will tell me is that Paul Roma was the best Horsemen ever. ;D Dont ever try and get into a debate about classic wrestling with me. Uh...where in my post did I say modern day Steiners were better? I was speaking from their primes there, genius. I like Quack and Hero, but to put them over 1990-1994 Steiners is absolutely dumb. But to each his own. (That means opinion, get used to seeing mine) And there is no way Matt and Jeff compare to the Steiners. At the end of the day, they're only ladder match wrestlers. Demolition are better than they are. The Steiners are, as well. Edge/Christian? I like both, but they're not in the same league as LOD, Steiners, Harts, or Bulldogs. Best member of the Four Horsemen? Two words for you: Tully Blanchard. (If you don't know who he is, he's the guy from CS15 with the robe and red trunks. There, now you know a total of 8 classic wrestlers.) I know what a great wrestler is? Just because I said that your two indy darlings aren't the gods you make them out to be means nothing. I grew up watching Bret, Bulldog, Michaels, Sting, Flair, Vader..I know what a great wrestler is. And it doesn't involve them being part of an indy promotion. As for a classic debate? I've seen more classic wrestling than you have, don't get me started on how much more I know about St. Louis, WCCW, Mid-South, and PNW than you do. |
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Post by mike on Oct 29, 2007 0:28:40 GMT -5
Will there be a new thing of indy pick-ems anytime soon?
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Post by AP on Oct 29, 2007 2:06:11 GMT -5
I know the most about wrestling ever!
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