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Post by gatecitysinner on Oct 29, 2007 3:52:38 GMT -5
Uh...the Steiners are the greatest tag team EVER. Maybe you should dig your head out of your ass and watch a match of theirs from WCW 1990-1992 or even their WWF **** with Owen and Bret or Money Inc. Just because they're not indy doesn't mean they're bad. And Eaton? Please, in his prime, that mother  er is better than Quack and Hero. I'm now fully convinced you have no idea what a good wrestler is, and that you started watching during the attitude era. Please don't ever give your opinion on classic wrestlers again. Thank you. Yeah....I started watching in the attitude era. Sure. Whatever. The Steiners are not the greatest tag team of all time. Can they be put into the discussion? Absolutely. Before Scott got really jacked up on steroids.....the guy could go. Both he and Rick have fabulous amateur backgrounds. But with LOD, The Hart Foundation, The Bulldogs and Edge/Christian and even The Hardys.......give me all of those ahead of The Steiners. Fast forward to modern day Steiners.......they cant carry Gillberg or Disco Inferno's jock. Note the sarcasm and over exaggeration and try not to take everything literally. I'm fully convinced you dont know what a good wrestler is if you come here to insult Quack and Hero by trying to say the modern day Steiners are better. Next think you will tell me is that Paul Roma was the best Horsemen ever. ;D Dont ever try and get into a debate about classic wrestling with me. Who said anything about Scotty and Ricky being great now? 14 years ago Chris Hero and Mike Quackenbush would've had their blocks knocked off by the Steiners. Such disrespect, it's like you either don't know about wrestling or just don't care about it. I really think that you have no idea what you are talking about. I mention how great the Steiners are and you assume I mean them right now. Thank God I didn't say anything about the other people I like, your argument would've been "how good of a wrestler can he be, he's dead". Oh yes, how can we have a discussion about the greatest tag team of all time without mentioning the great Hardy Boyz. Give me a break. Edge and Christian truly set the bar for tag team wrestling. If you know so much about wrestling then how can you forget about the good teams and include those crappy ones? Ever hear of the Midnight Express? Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard? Terry Gordy and Steve Williams? I find your lack of faith disturbing. I'm so glad that Mr. shoryuken has joined in this and I agree with him 100%, but as for the best member of the Horsemen I have to go with the sometimes forgotten about Barry Windham. Please, I want to hear about all your knowledge about "old school" Showstopper, I want to get into a classic debate. Please enlighten us to what you know because right now I'm pretty sure that I'm winning our little argument. I will call Ted Dibiase right now and he will destroy all of you. Surprised you didn't know that. |
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Post by AP on Oct 29, 2007 4:00:24 GMT -5
I know the most about wrestling ever! |
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Post by gatecitysinner on Oct 29, 2007 4:03:52 GMT -5
I know the most about wrestling ever! We heard you the first time. Chime in, what do you think about Chris Hero and Mike Quackenbush? Do you think they're better than guys like Bobby Eaton and the Steiner Brothers? |
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Post by AP on Oct 29, 2007 4:16:04 GMT -5
I honestly havent seen much of Quack or Hero.
But if we were to go off first impressions, they just felt indy to me.
Steiner Brothers are amazing and I know because of what I enjoy, Id think they are better than Hero and Quack.
A big thing with me is look. I have to like what Im looking at. I dont wanna watch some tall chump in a crappy superman costume european uppercut another indy wrestler.
But thats just me. My opinions have never gone over too well on the Other Feds board.
When people remember my favorite wrestler is Viscera, they tend to smarkishly nullify my statements.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2007 9:10:34 GMT -5
it's pretty hard to compare wrestlers from the yesteryear to today. Everything's changed so much from the 80's to today. Every division has changed, the lightweights, tag teams, etc. Honestly I would take the classic 90's Steiners over the Briscoe Bros any day of the week, but I'd take LOD over the Steiners anyday.
Right now guys like Hero and Quack are doing things the Steiners never did, today they're the more impressive wrestlers. Rick Steiner just sucks now a days, his match was so terrible on this wrestlereunion show I saw like a year ago. Scotty can still pull some sick crapout, like his frankensteiner a few months ago.
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Post by Lennon on Oct 29, 2007 10:49:50 GMT -5
Just to put in my two cents: I am a huge fan of Hero and Quack, but to say that they are better than The Steiners is ridiculous. I understand that Rick and Scott are not the same anymore....but take that team from 1991 and put them against guys like Hero and Quack.....The Steiners would eat them alive. As far as the argument over who the best Tag Teams are, I wouldn't put The Hardy's or Edge & Christian anywhere near that list. In my honest opinion, the best teams in wrestling were The Steiners, Road Warriors and Arn & Tully. No disrespect to The Hart Foundation or Bulldogs, as I love them, too. This is just one guys opinion.  |
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Post by CBT on Oct 29, 2007 11:02:32 GMT -5
When people remember my favorite wrestler is Viscera, they tend to smarkishly nullify my statements. For the record. I <3 Big Daddy V |
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Post by fallenhero on Oct 29, 2007 11:11:55 GMT -5
Just to put in my two cents: I am a huge fan of Hero and Quack, but to say that they are better than The Steiners is ridiculous. I understand that Rick and Scott are not the same anymore....but take that team from 1991 and put them against guys like Hero and Quack.....The Steiners would eat them alive. As far as the argument over who the best Tag Teams are, I wouldn't put The Hardy's or Edge & Christian anywhere near that list. In my honest opinion, the best teams in wrestling were The Steiners, Road Warriors and Arn & Tully. No disrespect to The Hart Foundation or Bulldogs, as I love them, too. This is just one guys opinion. I love you in the most non-homo but almost homo way possible. |
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Post by Kliff and the Brewers on Oct 29, 2007 17:35:48 GMT -5
We heard you the first time. Chime in, what do you think about Chris Hero and Mike Quackenbush? Do you think they're better than guys like Bobby Eaton and the Steiner Brothers? Comparing wrestling from different ages is silly. Wrestling in the late 80s, and early 90's was completely different from todays scene. Everyone should know that. |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 29, 2007 18:25:59 GMT -5
We heard you the first time. Chime in, what do you think about Chris Hero and Mike Quackenbush? Do you think they're better than guys like Bobby Eaton and the Steiner Brothers? Comparing wrestling from different ages is silly. Wrestling in the late 80s, and early 90's was completely different from todays scene. Everyone should know that. Kliff....to a certain extent what you say holds true. However, when talking about pure wrestling ability........they can still be compared. And guys like the Steiners and Bobby Eaton dont hold candles to Edge/Christian or The Hardys or worse yet guys like Quack, Hero, Danielson, Claudio, etc. Hell.......on an entertainment level, I dont think the 3 previous hold candles to. The Hardys and E/C both had way better chemistry and worked more cohesive. The Steiners were a really good tag team and I watched a lot of their stuff back in the day. But they have been surpassed. Comparing Quack, Hero, etc. to a tag team is a little off base. The reason for that is that neither Quack nor Hero are true tag team wrestlers. They are more single wrestlers who can work tag team. The Steiners are a true tag team that can work singles. Cuz lets face it.....The Steiners are a better tag team than my indy friends. But my indy friends are far better singles performers than The Steiners individually. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2007 19:23:05 GMT -5
I find it funny dude says Hero is a dime a dozen. Chris Hero hasn't worked a job in years, wrestling is his only job. He's traveled the world on another man's dollar? I hate to go there bro, but are you in any position to call Hero "a dime a dozen"?
nah if anything you're a dime a dozen, a no name in the wrestling business. There's very few people who can actually use their wrestling trade and make a living off of it.
no knock because i havent seen you wrestle, but it's the truth
and i'll rewind it a bit, I think you have to be a pretty huge wrestling fan in the first place to want to train, the few big names you've met over the year may not talk wrestling 24/7 but you can't say they're not some of the biggest fans, to go through training and working just to live out a dream.
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Post by Kliff and the Brewers on Oct 29, 2007 19:36:31 GMT -5
they dont call him the shooter because he's shoot'in three's.
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Post by Lk™ on Oct 29, 2007 19:45:41 GMT -5
We heard you the first time. Chime in, what do you think about Chris Hero and Mike Quackenbush? Do you think they're better than guys like Bobby Eaton and the Steiner Brothers? Hero and Quack are much better, they have more substance to them. Guys like Bobby Eaton are completely one dimensional, and boring to watch. |
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Post by Kliff and the Brewers on Oct 29, 2007 19:50:06 GMT -5
Is slappy still mod and where is he?
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Post by fallenhero on Oct 29, 2007 20:08:50 GMT -5
Comparing wrestling from different ages is silly. Wrestling in the late 80s, and early 90's was completely different from todays scene. Everyone should know that. Kliff....to a certain extent what you say holds true. However, when talking about pure wrestling ability........they can still be compared. And guys like the Steiners and Bobby Eaton dont hold candles to Edge/Christian or The Hardys The Steiners aren't better than the Hardys or Edge and Christian? Yet you claim to know more about classic wrestling than me? The Steiners from 1990-1994 are one of the best ALL AROUND teams ever. They're so far ahead of the Hardys it's not funny. All the Hardys ever had were ing ladder matches, and the same can be said for Edge and Christian. Steiners had their feud with Doc and Gordy, their matches with Money Inc, their match with Bret and Owen, their match with the Headshrinkers, and the list goes on and on and on and on. Go back to watching the attitude era, because you've got no business in any wrestling pre 1998. |
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Post by Kliff and the Brewers on Oct 29, 2007 20:21:04 GMT -5
Gate City Sinner, what are your thoughts on Ace Steel, Claudio Castognoli, Kawada, and Ultimo Dragon?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2007 21:06:13 GMT -5
we already know he hates claudio
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Post by mike on Oct 29, 2007 22:20:54 GMT -5
How can you hate Claudio? Also Will there be a new thing of indy pick-ems anytime soon? |
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Oct 29, 2007 22:46:20 GMT -5
Kliff....to a certain extent what you say holds true. However, when talking about pure wrestling ability........they can still be compared. And guys like the Steiners and Bobby Eaton dont hold candles to Edge/Christian or The Hardys The Steiners aren't better than the Hardys or Edge and Christian? Yet you claim to know more about classic wrestling than me? The Steiners from 1990-1994 are one of the best ALL AROUND teams ever. They're so far ahead of the Hardys it's not funny. All the Hardys ever had were ing ladder matches, and the same can be said for Edge and Christian. Steiners had their feud with Doc and Gordy, their matches with Money Inc, their match with Bret and Owen, their match with the Headshrinkers, and the list goes on and on and on and on. Go back to watching the attitude era, because you've got no business in any wrestling pre 1998. What a joke. All the Hardys and E and C were ladder match wrestlers? LOL!!! So narrow minded. So ignorant. The Hardys and Edge and Christian were more than just ladder match wrestlers. If you ever cared to watch them OUTSIDE THE WWE.....you'd know. Try watching some old Omega tapes. Try watching some old ICW tapes. Maybe a little PWE. Something outside of watered down commercialized wrestling. The best wrestling AINT ON TV! The Steiners had their best matches in JAPAN! And no it wasnt against Money Inc. or Bret/Owen or anyone else like that. However, they did fight Doc and Gordy. Matches against Hase/Sasaki rocked. Or even the team of Chono/Hase. And my all time favorite match was a singles bought at Clash of the Champions pitting Flair vs. Scott Steiner for the WCW World Title that ended in a fantastic draw. But you wouldnt known anything about those matches.......cuz they werent on some WWF PPV. Both Edge and Christian have gone on to become masters of their trade. Both are at the top of their respective companies for as much for their athletic ability and in ring presence, as their entertainment value. They are two of the very best in entertainment wrestling and still can hold their own in an independent wrestling as evident in Christian's trips to ROH, 1PW and ICW. So you head on back to the attitude era. |
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Post by matwork on Oct 29, 2007 22:55:23 GMT -5
Fighting is a common thing around here,anyone know when BOLA will ship out?
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