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Post by Gene on Sept 22, 2008 18:48:25 GMT -5
actually i think i was bang on the money You were. WWE fans have selective memories. Wow. That was a well thought out comment. What a tool.
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Post by mrchase on Sept 23, 2008 11:42:08 GMT -5
well , yes i do know much becausei was right about randy roton forming the new evolution with ted jr & cody rhodes in st louis .what is funny is randy orton is not injured at all & i talked to him about it. i alos was right about randy orton returing in stl ouis that night . so i most know more then your stupid self & i have proven it. so it is you who don't know much or crap at all,mark. lol you got two parts and a half of it right, the rest you were wrong. dave aint apart of the group, orton didnt return and take the title but Orton did return & then a week later cost cm punk his title . so i was mostly right .so some of the plane changed . it happens in wrestling .
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Post by axemurderer on Sept 23, 2008 12:28:28 GMT -5
If they really wanted to give guys time to shine, they'd stop raiding WWE's garbage bin. TNA is a joke. They have all the potential but manage to it up. couldnt have said it better myself.
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Post by robl7up on Sept 23, 2008 12:44:17 GMT -5
The only reason this thread has 7 pages of discussion is because JEFF JARRETT cut a passionante promo about real (WRESTLING WORLD REAL THAT IS) issues.. We as wrestling fans hunger for this stuuf which is a throwback to the Attitude era and WCW/NWO's heyday... I wish Vince McMahon or one of his cronies or writers would tune into this type of discussion and realize thats what we as wrestling fans want....PASSIONANTE work shoots! with unpredictable outcomes to story lines......DAMN!
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 23, 2008 13:08:45 GMT -5
Yeah, worked shoots are historically the kind of thing that have brought the greatest success in wrestling. That's why WCW under the leadership of Vince "Standards & Practises" Russo became the biggest wrestling company of all time and drove the WWF out of business. Oh, wait...
The thing about TNA's "worked shoot" that I don't get is that the people who are like "ZOMG JEFFS RIGHT TNA HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT YOUNG STARZ! TNA! TNA! TNA!" are the same people who spent three years complaining that Jeff Jarrett and TNA were holding down the young stars. Do the blindly loyal TNA fans have such short/selective memories?
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Post by robl7up on Sept 23, 2008 14:45:39 GMT -5
Yeah, worked shoots are historically the kind of thing that have brought the greatest success in wrestling. That's why WCW under the leadership of Vince "Standards & Practises" Russo became the biggest wrestling company of all time and drove the WWF out of business. Oh, wait... The thing about TNA's "worked shoot" that I don't get is that the people who are like "ZOMG JEFFS RIGHT TNA HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT YOUNG STARZ! TNA! TNA! TNA!" are the same people who spent three years complaining that Jeff Jarrett and TNA were holding down the young stars. Do the blindly loyal TNA fans have such short/selective memories? Vince Russo work shoots pretty much sucked..They were way over the top and he tried way to hard to try and shock the audience...Im refering more along the lines of NWO INVASION of WCW when Scott Hall initially arrived...Or when Bret Hart first shoved Vince on his ass.... Or the time he smacked his head phones off..That was great stuff.
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Post by HugoOne on Sept 23, 2008 14:48:31 GMT -5
Remind me again, why did I ever stop watching TNA? That promo alone had more heart, intensity and entertainment than anything WWE has done in a few months. Minus the whole Jericho vs. Michaels feud, of course. Sure, great promo, heart, etc., whatever. But they're not fixing the real problem of trying to be different for the sake of being different. Six-sided ring, fine, but for the love of God, tone down the gimmick matches and get rid of Russo. Let's ask, can Jarrett still wrestle even? Can Foley? Can Sting? It's an interesting angle to be sure, but it's still not going to make me tune in to find out what happens, and I still won't until they stop trying to be different for the sake of being different.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 23, 2008 15:38:41 GMT -5
Vince Russo work shoots pretty much sucked.. And that doesn't alarm you? See, the problem I have with this TNA one - at least from that promo on Impact - is that the "young guys" faction is being led by Jeff Jarrett and Mick Foley.
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Post by robl7up on Sept 23, 2008 15:41:48 GMT -5
Vince Russo work shoots pretty much sucked.. And that doesn't alarm you? See, the problem I have with this TNA one - at least from that promo on Impact - is that the "young guys" faction is being led by Jeff Jarrett and Mick Foley.Yes,I totally agree.
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Post by tnafan4life on Sept 23, 2008 15:41:56 GMT -5
Vince Russo work shoots pretty much sucked.. And that doesn't alarm you? See, the problem I have with this TNA one - at least from that promo on Impact - is that the "young guys" faction is being led by Jeff Jarrett and Mick Foley.Jarrett makes sense. It's his company - he made TNA for the young guys to shine and these vetearns are coming in and hogging the spotlight/taking credit for stuff they had nothing to do with. It makes sense.. It's not so much a "New School vs. Old School" type deal to me.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 23, 2008 15:46:48 GMT -5
Jarrett makes sense. It's his company - he made TNA for the young guys to shine I don't know if you genuinely believe that or you're just talking about the storyline, but either way - I still remember the TNA fans hating him for years for "holding the young talent down" and "hogging the limelight." And I'm pretty sure the TNA fans themselves do as well, so I think Jarrett's walking a very fine line here in terms of fans turning on him. It doesn't really make sense in a segment that ends with the big reveal of veteran WWF/WWE superstar Mick Foley coming into TNA...
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