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Post by Revvie® on Mar 18, 2011 15:18:49 GMT -5
The economy maybe taking its toll but as people should we willingly start giving up our freedoms and rights that we were given, due to a failing economy...
I mean I work my 40 hours and do what I need to...but I feel like we have to have some principals...I told my last job goodbye after they told me if I didnt help getting someone they deemed undesired to quit...then my job my be the next one they look at closely.
I'm sorry...we have to stand our ground at some juncture...especially when times are at their worst.
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 18, 2011 12:40:34 GMT -5
Honestly, like Slappy said, the really have no grounds...now they can make it rough on you but if you stick to it then they will just let it go after awhile.
I would stick to what you had said. You told them and gave religious reasoning...keep to it. (now if you had signed a paper stating you could work any and all hours and this was agreed upon separately with no paper work, well that thats different.)
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 17, 2011 22:22:19 GMT -5
and mankind repeats the same sort of ignorance once again...blah
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 17, 2011 15:59:23 GMT -5
That was beautiful.
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 17, 2011 13:02:11 GMT -5
The show gets me and then it loses me everytime...like season one had me and season 2 kept me happy...season three I lost interest and just barely kept up, then saw the preview for season four and caught back up for it....best decision...and then season 5 killed it again...blah...its a love hate thing.
Books were so so, mostly because I see nothing worthwhile in his writing other then the standard dexter idea that the show has really progressed on where I dont feel the books did as well....
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 17, 2011 9:56:11 GMT -5
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 16, 2011 11:59:42 GMT -5
But again, after years of possible built up agression towards someone making his life awful, I don't think he went too far at all. exactly, he had an emotional reaction, that was more so uncontrollable then it was for him to be able to take time to consider his options...a person doesn't think logically when being punched repeatedly... that is the only part that i disagree with you on badnews...the rest i think your golden on...i think your taking the instinctual side of us out of the equation and leaving it to vengeful thinking due to how it looked when in all logic, the reaction of the kid was with in the normal parameters of a bullied child who went bust.
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 16, 2011 10:52:39 GMT -5
AGAIN...the kid provoked was action on pure adrenaline and frustration, most likely due to lack of consideration by the school system, the kids, and possibly his family. To top that off, he held off and hoped the kid would leave him be, when he had reached his breaking point, he acted out of impulse, not out of vengeance. I think that you are making a quite arrogant statement in the idealism that you telling your kid that they have alternatives will automatically keep them from those two categories. My dad taught me the same...that didn't stop the bullies in school..especially at a age of unreason such as this. Then we come to your "pandora box" argument. The idea that once violence is out then it will proceed only to more violence. NOW while that is true(IN SOME CASES) it is not the truth for every case...I could say "its all down here" from there on just about any negative aspect of this world but that doesn't legitimize your points. Lets now play the hypothesis game. Lets say if your kid was out alone at a park and a kid started to approach and proceed to beat him or her, what would you advise the kid do? I never said it would keep them from those two categories. I said that I could almost guarantee. Even if not that, they have a better chance at it. And you're right. These are all ideals that I have. But I can do my best to make sure that they come to fruition. How you say? As you implied, many parents couldn't care any less. If my kid is getting bullied, then I'm getting involved. I'm getting the other kid's parents involved. I'll do everything in my power to keep it from happening. Of course there's always variables to consider. -What if my kid doesn't tell me he's being bullied? I don't have an answer for that. In the real world, things like this will happen. And it will come down to the principals in instilled within the child which will determine the true outcome. Like I said. I don't claim to have all the answers. -What if my kid fights back anyway. I won't applaud them. That's for sure. I'll let them know that even though they stood up for themselves, to do whatever they can in the future not to resort to violence. I don't see anything wrong with that. Now on to the point that I'm putting a negative spin on the cycle of violence. As I said, I've seen it with my very own eyes what can happen when physical battle lines are drawn. Especially when the bully(in his own mind) has more to lose in his reputation than the bullied does. What I'm saying is that I'd do my best as a parent to keep them from being on either end of the situation. Telling them to seek revenge on those that wrong you isn't going to do that. See, now your starting to become reasonable with your statement...and again I stated that vengeance wasn't and in most cases, has nothing do with with instantaneous reactions done out of adrenaline and the human need to protect oneself. I think a lot of the basis, as I expected, is on the idea of vengeance BUT you came out as though you were against self defense. I figured you knew what you were talking about...I just wanted to make sure. fair enough...in the ideal world there would be no suffering or violence or a need for it...but this is not an ideal world and sometimes we have to fight back for ourselves or what we believe in, whether it be vocally or physically. The idea of "speak softly and carry a big stick comes to mind"...and i believe your the bible buff or one of them....david and goliath when looked at directly next to this, you can see correspondence of a need to defend oneself If this was a shooting, I would be with you...but what the kid did was not out of any amount of vengeance....will it create vengeance...possibly....but alot of time when two people get into a fight they find themselves at a crossroads and alot befriend eachother... Vengeance is not self defense....otherwise...im on board ;D
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 16, 2011 10:21:47 GMT -5
Lol. You're so over the top with everything. Just because I'm going to raise my kids not to fight doesn't mean they're gonna be pussies. It means that they're going to be able resolve conflict in other ways than violence. I never said that they shouldn't stand up for themselves, but not by fighting. Punching a bully isn't the only or best way to show him what's up. I don't have all the answers, nor do I claim to. What you need to do is realize that it's never the end of it. I knew a kid that kept getting bullied. He fought back and embarrassed the guy who kept messing with him. You know what happened? That guy came back to the school, and beat the sh** out of the kid with a chain. Put him in the hospital. Violence, despite the one dealing it out, WILL create a vicious cycle that won't end well. Sometimes, it ends in school shootings. Sometimes it ends in the kid who fought his bully back getting the floor wiped with his a** to put him in his place(as far as his bully is concerned). How can I almost guarantee that my kids won't end up on either of those lists? Teach them that fighting is wrong, and that the sword may be mighty, but it won't solve your problems. No matter how much they think it will. AGAIN...the kid provoked was action on pure adrenaline and frustration, most likely due to lack of consideration by the school system, the kids, and possibly his family. To top that off, he held off and hoped the kid would leave him be, when he had reached his breaking point, he acted out of impulse, not out of vengeance. I think that you are making a quite arrogant statement in the idealism that you telling your kid that they have alternatives will automatically keep them from those two categories. My dad taught me the same...that didn't stop the bullies in school..especially at a age of unreason such as this. Then we come to your "pandora box" argument. The idea that once violence is out then it will proceed only to more violence. NOW while that is true(IN SOME CASES) it is not the truth for every case...I could say "its all down here" from there on just about any negative aspect of this world but that doesn't legitimize your points. Lets now play the hypothesis game. Lets say if your kid was out alone at a park and a kid started to approach and proceed to beat him or her, what would you advise the kid do?
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 16, 2011 10:06:22 GMT -5
First off, yeah you are in the minority and second, it would be awesome if the schooling system did get off their asses and do something about the constant bullying, but that'll never friggin' happen. So, until that happens, I have absolutely no problems with a bullied kid fighting back and standing up for himself and clearly putting an end to the bullying. If that were my kid, I'd be so ing proud of him for doing what's right and putting the bully in his place LITERALLY and ending the harassment and bullying once and for all. Hey man, the bully crossed the line when he threw the first punch. Anything he gets after that is fair game. He deserves it, even if it was a sidewalk-slam. I applaud this Casey fellow for doing what's right. That dude is ing famous now. That clip is all over the internet and on TMZ and everything. He'll be remembered for that for a long, long time to come. I'd actually hate to be the bully in this case. I mean, when he gets older, he'll have to show the footage of him getting planted to all his buddies and sh*t. That'll be hard to deal with, but he deserves the embarassment. That's the problem. You don't know if he ended anything. For all we know, that little guy could be home, cooking up a plan to waste everyone who witnessed him get dumped on his head. So no, I don't applaud it and I WOULDN'T be proud of my kid for nearly crippling another kid just to show him he's had enough. Violence is not the ONLY answer. It's just too bad that our society is conditioned to think that it is, and that it'll all be over once they fight back. If that were the case, then gang wars and such wouldn't exist. Now I'm fully aware that some people really do deserve a stiff punch in the mouth. I'm just saying that there are other ways to go about ending conflict. And I certainly won't be teaching any offspring of mine to swing on a guy so he'll stop picking on you.I am a father of two lovely daughters... What is it you would tell your kids...most of the kids who are picked are kids whose parents could care less and the school system feels the same. But what I am interested in, is if your kid ask you to explain bullies and what he or she should do if encountering one. And at what point should someone be allowed to defend themselves...and for that matter a kid who is docile in nature, when provoked will reach further extremes then the one doing such provoking. Due to lack of over usage of levels of adrenaline among the pent up frustration of never being left alone. I get it, you want to take the side of a peaceful resolution here. but then that takes me back to your statement... If you would not tell your kid to defend themselves then what would you tell them?
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 16, 2011 6:49:08 GMT -5
So I have a question then, do you think at, any point in time, a person should stand up for themselves? I mean if were going to go the root of saying it is bad for children then that is to say it is bad for us in all. Because we grow from children with idea bound into us by that childhood. I never said that no one should stand up for themselves. I just believe that children shouldn't be fighting. I don't think it's healthy to grow up with "eye for an eye" as your main principal when it comes to confrontation. I believe that also but you say "children should not be fighting" but what if the kid DOESN'T view that idealism. As a child we are at are most basic of instincts. When we are prodded, we will lash out. I would rather a kid throw a few bunches then commit a suicide on the basis of not being able to go any further...or worse. Im a peaceful minded man but we have went from a few fist fights in school...to a no tolerance policy and kids being forced or feeling forced into situations that they have no rights in. I am well aware that I a playing a lesser of two evils idealism here, but turn the other cheek is only as good as the cheeks that are taking the beating...
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 16, 2011 6:33:42 GMT -5
I would LOVE to see what you would do in this kids situation then. Being bullied for years, just dreaming about making it stop. I was bullied in Elementary School. Held in a full nelson by my arms by some tall German kid, and punched in the stomach by some little sh** half my size. Happened almost every day for a good part of the school year. Know what I did? One day I found that little twerp, grabbed him by his sweater and flung him in the ditch during recess. It felt good for the moment. The both of us got into trouble, and my mother was extremely disappointed that she'd been paying to send me to school and I came home fighting. Fighting is not something children should be doing. I don't care what the case is. It can't and shouldn't be justified. Especially for retaliatory purposes. This isn't the movies. Things don't just get squashed if the bully gets his due. So I have a question then, do you think at, any point in time, a person should stand up for themselves? I mean if were going to go the root of saying it is bad for children then that is to say it is bad for us in all. Because we grow from children with idea bound into us by that childhood.
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 16, 2011 4:00:52 GMT -5
E reminded me that I missed one show. 3 weeks feels a lot longer thenone show. So...E came to me with a legit gripe about things. Sh*t's not getting done around here fast enough. HA!
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 15, 2011 19:24:10 GMT -5
Im glad he got it taken to him, too often this stuff just goes on and on. Sadly the only school encounter got me more suspension then the kid who started it. But since there was no teacher to back my story and all his friends were claiming, ignorantly, that I was the aggressor I found myself in more trouble then the kid who had picked the fight.
I was bullied heavily in school, so a little justice might do the bullied and the bully a little good. The bullied will know that he is not incapable of taking care of himself and by this one video it will drive others away, most likely.
And the bully will learn a lesson, especially in picking on a boy 3 times your size. Kids maybe odd and silent and awkward at certain times but it doesnt mean they will put up with the kind of crap he was dishing out.
Congrats to them both for learning that day...the hard way...because schools dont care.
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 15, 2011 9:21:36 GMT -5
Honestly I carry no personal cell. I have a cheap vzw prepay but I dont even take it with me unless im leaving and no one except my family knows the number and its only emercency. I think life is simpler with a home phone and no cell. All I see is people with their cell phones in their faces anymore when im out, it truly sickens me a little that so many are so attached to little devices....oh well haha. I will admit though, when I did go through phase of "loving my phone" back a bit ago, I enjoyed the blackberry....but it was before the storm and 3g/4g/whatever else g....haha
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 15, 2011 8:55:27 GMT -5
I'm not saying anything because I have been told to many times that I'm no the one running this fed and everyone here is happy, active and turn stuff in and the owners are doing the most amazing of jobs....so its whatever.
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 15, 2011 8:27:08 GMT -5
I have one outstanding but the last I hear the judge was not ruling in there favor due to the fact that it was only a 500 dollar card that I didnt even expend totally. There was a big thing about it, I called them 3 times a month, 3 months in a row trying to get my physical bill. They said it was all the post fault they stopped sending me my bill. Apparently didnt feel the same way about them coming after me for 1500 dollars after 4 years of collection companies and fees building up over what I had paid down to 300. All because I wouldnt give them my bank account to draw it directly out.
Oh well no matter, all we do in this world is find ourself constantly at odd with debts of some sort or another, even if its a debt of merely living in this world or country. I dont get my panties in a bunch anymore over it all.
honestly, I have had other card offers since then but have declined them all. Oh well haha
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 12, 2011 17:18:21 GMT -5
A church in rome said a few weeks ago that the story of adam and eve (whatever they're called )they don't believe in. That throws the whole story away with the poison apple and other stuff I think you're mixing up the Garden of Eden with Snow White because the fruit wasn't poisonous and no one knows if it was an apple. If I am correct(im unsure on this) but im pretty sure it never even defines it as a fruit but only states eating from the tree itself in some way.
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 12, 2011 10:19:43 GMT -5
EBR vs. Trace Demon
I dont think I actually see a clear cut winner here, but in honesty when I look at both of their rps I see EBR has some consistency, and that could be due to tenure. I will choose EBR but I'm not declaring anything for sure. Trace has always shown real talent and use of it.
Phillip Schnieder vs. Johnny Albright
Phillip will take this one but Albright strutted some material last week and I think that maybe what will pull him into the limelight. I started out by losing to bigger names but putting together more thought out material. Each one I got a little closer, he should look at each loss and progress. I dont think he has the ability to take this match...yet. BUT this match should be something that he puts all his effort in like the last show.
Ace Bennett and AJ King vs. Chris Jackal and Tabitha Owens
Whether you like my opinion, I believe this match will come down to these two rps, both are very talented. I press my idea that Tabitha will take this all in all and Jackal will hopefully notch it up and press the match in their favor.
Hutton Brown vs. Samael Ahriman
Not a clue lol
?? and ?? vs. Lightning and David Handlecatch
mysteries usually end up badly.
Johnny Knight vs. Luke Collins
Not a clue again.
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Post by Revvie® on Mar 9, 2011 20:32:26 GMT -5
Mr. Osborn would have to have been mine. He was our english teacher but he was a little different. Every other Friday was a cafe day where we read or sang or just sat and enjoyed the atmosphere you would find at a late night coffee house.
He also encouraged us to write, we just had to write something at the end of the week, didnt matter what it was. He was the reason I started writing and still do. Oh and he wore an oldschool pair of red chucks that he had had since highschool. they were in pretty awesome condition.
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