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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 19:28:38 GMT -5
The FAQs on the Nitro Stage page of Mattel Creations says that there’s an extra £60 shipping surcharge factored into the shipping to the UK. I’m finding it strange that people are saying Mattel aren’t being up front about this, when it’s clearly being priced out in the FAQ section. “Why won’t Mattel answer this question that’s being asked so frequently??” as they ignore the Frequently Asked Questions section. Great... and what about the other £118/$147? |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 18:33:03 GMT -5
A lot of people were talking about the international prices being high? Is that something the team is looking into or is it out of their hands? Thanks. It’s out of my hands personally but as I’ve mentioned, I pass along all comments. Having spoken with that team and seeing the breakdowns, the pricing is realistic/accurate. Any perceived “overage” is going to the shipping of a gigantic item. With respect, Steve (😍) - can't you or Mattel SHOW us the breakdowns? I think it would go a long way in putting international customers' minds at rest, so we can understand exactly what we're paying for. It all seems so secretive at the moment... |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 18:21:39 GMT -5
15 votes out of 195. You can claim hardcore wrestling collectors all you want but 195 total votes means nothing. What vote is this? The era we collect thread? If so as you said that means absolutely nothing. Especially when the choices given were so WWE heavy. lol ...doesn't it show that WCW is a more niche market though? That the collector-base is smaller (than WWE)? At least by the people who voted anyway (no matter how small, lol). |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 16:49:10 GMT -5
This is a great point... was a WCW product the correct way to go for only the second crowdfunding project? It has a MUCH smaller collector base than WWE: forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/374188/favourite-era-collect...15 votes for WCW '95-'01 (ie. the Nitro stage period) - on a hardcore/dedicated wrestling collector website. If the stage thing fails, along with the international issue, it could be down to there just not being enough WCW collectors - or WWE collectors willing to spend this much for something WCW(?) 15 votes out of 195. You can claim hardcore wrestling collectors all you want but 195 total votes means nothing. ...just pointing out that the audience/collector-base for the stage is probably much less than that of the the New Gen set (and things WWE based). |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 15:38:50 GMT -5
If I may... With the New Gen ring all the UK buyers cried because they had to pay tax on arrival. This forced Mattel to collect tax based on your location! I am also international but do not blame Mattel for taxes set by our Government!! That's simply not true, mate... we all knew we would get a Customs charge when it was out for delivery (...I'd even set £60 aside, ready). And besides, it's the fact that with Mattel now including tax and duty, they seem to be overcharging by quite a lot - and aren't giving us a price breakdown of the actual costs either. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 14:02:01 GMT -5
I think WCW did well for itself, but as a product, especially 20+ years after it closed it's doors, it doesn't have the same support or popularity as WWE. Even looking at the thread on here about which Steiner outfit you want, the WWE one is winning by a mile, despite all his WCW looks. I think this being a WCW product is doing more harm than people are letting on. That attire is winning by four votes, and it probably couldn't be done accurately because it has the Superman S and '69' on the side. Plus multiple WCW looks means the votes are spread out. Are there more total votes for WCW attires or the WWE ones? WWE is clearly more popular now because it's still a thing, but are there thousands of more fans of early 2000s WWE (not current WWE) willing to drop $400+ on a Raw stage? Or would a WWE-themed crowdfund be in the same boat right now?
If Mattel wanted a Monday Night Wars theme (right or wrong choice there is a different debate), why would they not choose something from the show that won the ratings war for weeks upon weeks?This is a great point... was a WCW product the correct way to go for only the second crowdfunding project? It has a MUCH smaller collector base than WWE: forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/374188/favourite-era-collect...15 votes for WCW '95-'01 (ie. the Nitro stage period) - on a hardcore/dedicated wrestling collector website. If the stage thing fails, along with the international issue, it could be down to there just not being enough WCW collectors - or WWE collectors willing to spend this much for something WCW(?) |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 5:05:50 GMT -5
There is a department somewhere within Mattel or Creations that has come up with this as a process. I don't see it changing until they see international orders dry up. Sadly as Steve pointed out - we are forced into paying customs charges on the likes of retros & CC now even though they wouldn't require it. Exactly. And it will hurt them in the long run. We should be paying £56/$70 plus shipping for the Coliseum Collection - instead we're paying £70/$87 plus shipping? Who made this awful change!? It's bad enough we're already paying extra for international shipping, but understandable... now we have to pay even extra to that extra. 🤷♂️ |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 4:01:10 GMT -5
So you paid 59 for the 250$ New Gen set but only 72 for the 400$ Nitro stage?! Dont know if this is correct... Dont forget the price in £ includes shipping costs too. This huge set to ship costs way more than 10 they asking forBUT yes they are overcharging. I have to pay 550 Euros plus 10 shipping The new gen set came in without additional taxes because it was shipped from the US to Belgium and then to Germany. Now if i could buy the nitro stage in Euros it would be 360 Euros plus shipping. And customs would be 19%. So lets say 360 plus 50 shipping plus 19% = ca 500 Euros and not 560 😔 That's the thing though... TELL US how much it costs to ship. Break the price down, so we can see exactly what we're paying for. Then let us see if it's worth it or if you're overcharging us. All this stuff with their automatic currency conversion... automatic duty and tax added... Mattel saying the shipping is included in the price (even though we still have to pay a separate shipping charge)... It all just gives the impression that no-one really knows what's going on. 🤷♂️ |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 3:39:58 GMT -5
Thing is, we don’t get charged anything additional on products under the value of £135 in the U.K., so the hike in pricing on retros makes zero sense and should be amended. For the Nitro arena, $400 is £322. They’re charging £500 to include tax and duties. So Mattel are saying tax and duties would be £178.00 I’m no expert at all but my understanding is for items valued £135 to £630 that we get charged 2.5% duty (2.5% of £322 = £8.20) and VAT is 20% (20% of £322 is £64.40) so £72.60. £178 just doesn’t seem to make sense. For the New Gen arena, I was charged an additional £59 by Parcelforce when it arrived but we got charged for the arena in $ the same as everyone else, so I thought that was absolutely fine. Yeah, we paid the same USD price for the New Gen set, $14.95 shipping, then an additional £60 (approx) charge by Parcelforce when it was ready to be delivered. It seemed so simple... ...because IT IS SO SIMPLE 🤦♂️. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 2:14:57 GMT -5
Unfortunately, the international problem is not just for this set... it's Mattel Creations as a whole: last year they started to included prices in GBP (rather than USD) and also added their own "shipping and import fees". And it flat out SUCKS.
eg. the first two Retro sets, charged in USD were:
$55 + $14.95 = $69.95 (£56 GBP) each Total
And the third set, after the change, charged in GBP:
£60 + £9 = £69 GBP Total
An extra £13 ($16)...
Now, on relatively small figure sets, you can just about stomach the difference (...what other option do we have?). But on a big set like this stage, the difference is HUGE. And it ends up hurting everyone in the long run - not just UK/international people - as the set needs all the backers it can get just to be made... and then also for the various tiers to be reached.
It's such a mess.
(EDIT: sorry, it's "Duty and Tax", not "shipping and import fees")
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 0:19:10 GMT -5
When did he start wearing the chain-mail? I'll have any attire with that, basically.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 0:06:26 GMT -5
I had some additional discussions with the Mattel Creations team today regarding payment, international pricing, shipping, etc. Please see below for the latest details. 1. For those of you ordering from the following countries: Canada, United Kingdom, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, and Japan, prices on Mattel Creations are shown in local currency. The price you'll see is inclusive of import duties and taxes. For all other regions, prices on Mattel Creations are shown in U.S. dollars (USD). The USD price is exclusive of import duties, and taxes (assessed at Customs). 2. Shop Pay Installments is available for US orders only.3. Paypal, Amex, and Discover are unfortunately currently unavailable during the crowdfund.If you still have questions, keep posting them and I’ll continue to pass them along and press for answers/info. Man alive... Mattel just don't want international backing for this do they!? 🤦♂️ Not only do we have to pay nearly $250 more (without any real price-breakdown)... we can't even do it by PayPal or installments?? Thanks, but no thanks. Unless this international situation is sorted out, I seriously doubt the stage reaches the 5K backers needed - and if it does, any additional tiers are out of the question. It's such a shame too, after all the work Steve has put in to try and make this work. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 14, 2023 23:47:39 GMT -5
It's not out of the realms of possibility that they switch things up a bit: Eg. "Hey Guys - we've listened!! You fans were really excited by the Ultimate Edition Scott Steiner shown with the Nitro Stage - so as a bonus incentive, EVERYONE who backs the stage will ALSO now be getting this exclusive first-time Scott Steiner figure, along with the previously announced Rey Mysterio figure! We hope you'll join us in this exciting project!" I mean... I pretty much nailed it 😄. The fans have spoken and we listened! We changed a few things in the crowdfund just for the WWE® Universe. Now, at 5,000 Backers, the entrance stage will be funded and unlocked along with the Ultimate Edition Scott Steiner™ and Rey Mysterio™ figures. See below for additional changes to the tiers. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 14, 2023 23:01:59 GMT -5
For $400 and 2 guaranteed UE figures, I definitely think the stage is worth it. It's just not something that interests me enough though... especially with the added international cost.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 14, 2023 5:46:56 GMT -5
IF they got the international situation sorted out, I might back it too... mainly for Steiner and Rey - and the hope we got DDP and/or Warrior. Have they said if that earlybird Hulk is definitely off the table? I think Steve received the message from soooo many collectors on here that they do not want the WCW Hogan. I don't see him/Mattel making any great effort to keep it when it was so universally crapped on, at least by this community; Which breaks my heart, because I've been wanting this exact style WCW Hogan for quite a long time. I don't see them releasing it in any form for a while after the backlash it got here. Guess I'll be cobbling one together with the new Legends accessories & my extra Amazon Hogan..... that WCW World Title belt would have been sweet, though. I don't know if they could - but it would be kind of cool for everyone who ordered the set early (ie. before the Hulk deadline) to get the Hogan shirt, head and belt. Or get something, anyway. It's probably not possible though. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 14, 2023 3:53:01 GMT -5
The fomo has been hitting me hard. Even as an international buyer I'm going to cave. IF they got the international situation sorted out, I might back it too... mainly for Steiner and Rey - and the hope we got DDP and/or Warrior. Have they said if that earlybird Hulk is definitely off the table? |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 14, 2023 0:06:53 GMT -5
If this doesn’t get it over the line my mind will have changed from Mattel to collectors being the ones who fumbled. I still think the international problem/overcharge hurts it too... especially if they get over 4k backers and it stalls. Yep I got you and honestly I feel for the international backers but I hope they realize that if they want the set maaaybe despite the crappy upcharge that they reconsider this one time to maybe pay a little more. I say that cause if it barely gets 5k and most of our international brothers dont back it they will have to end up paying a bigger price further down the line because of the scarcity and missing out on the initial offering. There are many international customers that want this despite maybe not having the room right now or having a weak figure line up but the asking price is far too much to justify. I believe in the UK it's about $650 and here in Canada it's costing us $800. You guys can pretty much get two of these for our cost of one. It's a tough sell especially in today's economy. 👆 |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 13, 2023 23:58:47 GMT -5
So they’re gonna announce Steiner will be in the first tier tomorrow as well, which means around 150 people a day will have to back it for it to get funded, I think it’s too late unfortunately, unless they add payment plans for international customers and cut the excessive fees This. I think there'll be a fairly decent spike, but it will soon level out. It might come down to the last day... if it's anywhere near the target, then I think it'll get a few extra backers. I hope it succeeds for you guys 👍. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 13, 2023 23:19:12 GMT -5
😎👍
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 13, 2023 23:13:20 GMT -5
3 people voted for Basic? 🤷♂️🤦♂️
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