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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 18, 2023 22:28:04 GMT -5
Off the top of my head...
Rhyno - fix those shoulders and make him an ECW or RA version
Dudley boyz - ECW or RA versions
GAB Sting - different torso and head
Snuka - barefoot version, with different hands
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 18, 2023 22:03:41 GMT -5
Another Ultimate Edition conversion. This one is staying in my personal collection. Full UE articulation.   |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 18, 2023 9:10:19 GMT -5
International Shipping: There’s no convincing international buyers to buy this who think that they’re being overcharged or that the cost of shipping added to price put it out of their range. Mattel isn’t going to change it. ...how do you/we know? If enough people keep complaining, something might be done. We'll see, I guess. I'd actually love to know what % of backers on the New Gen set were UK or international... I know there were a lot. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 18, 2023 6:35:24 GMT -5
I like his WCW figures too, so I'd probably go with Elite 32 and Elite 67.
I guess it depends what era Rey you prefer. I still think his Entrance Greats figure is really good too... so the UE of it should be amazing.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 18, 2023 3:58:00 GMT -5
My $40 remark was in regards to the additional £32 stated in the cost breakdown I referenced in the quoted portion of my reply. Of course you aren’t paying $400 for this if you don’t live in the US… but that applies to every part of your wrestling collection compared to people collecting in the states. I’m not saying $625 isn’t a lot of money as I quoted in my post elvisfan1 did the math based on the price difference based on international shipping, customs fees, tax, what have you and said I posted a calculation a few pages back, so here it is again: - Item cost: £325 - Shipping surcharge: £60, according to the Mattel FAQ. - Total before any VAT/customs: £385 - 20% for VAT - 4% for Duties/Customs (https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/find_commodity) - VAT/Customs always includes the shipping cost (https://www.fedex.com/en-gb/shipping-channel/customs-clearance/duties-taxes.html) - Total VAT/Customs: £92 All-in Total: £477. This is inarguable fact based on all available information. So at £509, it's overcharged by £32” £32 is about $40, and if there was a random unexplainable $40 added to it here I would still back it. I didn’t say you shouldn’t be annoyed about not having a finance option, but besides the extra £32 that’s just what a heavy large box valued at $400 costs for anything you’d purchase from the US. My calculation was actually a little different, I have it at a £124 overcharge give or take, not £32. This was another user's calculation. That's the thing... why can't Mattel actually show us the price breakdown? It's really not much to ask. All they've said is the £500 includes a £60 shipping surcharge (fair enough) and that the price includes "duty and tax". But it just doesn't add up... for anyone. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 18, 2023 0:39:10 GMT -5
Why is the Street Profits and whoever Gallus is even on this list? lol. ...it's a pretty odd list, to say the least. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 18, 2023 0:09:07 GMT -5
My $40 remark was in regards to the additional £32 stated in the cost breakdown I referenced in the quoted portion of my reply. Of course you aren’t paying $400 for this if you don’t live in the US… but that applies to every part of your wrestling collection compared to people collecting in the states. I’m not saying $625 isn’t a lot of money as I quoted in my post elvisfan1 did the math based on the price difference based on international shipping, customs fees, tax, what have you and said I posted a calculation a few pages back, so here it is again: - Item cost: £325 - Shipping surcharge: £60, according to the Mattel FAQ. - Total before any VAT/customs: £385 - 20% for VAT - 4% for Duties/Customs (https://www.trade-tariff.service.gov.uk/find_commodity) - VAT/Customs always includes the shipping cost (https://www.fedex.com/en-gb/shipping-channel/customs-clearance/duties-taxes.html) - Total VAT/Customs: £92 All-in Total: £477. This is inarguable fact based on all available information. So at £509, it's overcharged by £32” £32 is about $40, and if there was a random unexplainable $40 added to it here I would still back it. I didn’t say you shouldn’t be annoyed about not having a finance option, but besides the extra £32 that’s just what a heavy large box valued at $400 costs for anything you’d purchase from the US. We're still being needlessly overcharged though - and we're already having to pay more for the extra shipping and tax/duty. It just leaves a bad taste in one's mouth.... eg. if someone is on the fence about whether to back the stage or not, this could certainly sway them. Plus, we have to pay it all now/up-front - rather than pay approx. £385 now, then another £90+ next year when the set is ready for delivery (this is how they did it last time with the New Gen set). And there are no payment plans either, to help soften the blow. As for the "applying to every part of your wrestling collection" - well not really, as apart from Mattel Creations (thanks, guys!! 😠), we don't get charged on things under £135... so it's usually just the extra shipping we have to pay. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 17, 2023 22:52:47 GMT -5
I don't think they would be willing to do all this additional work on top of thier already busy schedule with no financial incentive. They would also have to deal with additional headaches if the product is lost or damaged. I just can’t imagine Mattel is saying to themselves, “let’s charge them an extra $50 for shipping just because they’re international” when doing so jeopardizes a $2,000,000 plus payday. I just don’t understand this “conspiracy” that Mattel is out to scam the international customer and how it benefits them. I don't think it's a conspiracy or anything... I just think the higher ups (or whoever) at Mattel haven't thought it all through properly or looked into other options for international backers (eg. just charging us for the stage and shipping). And the lack of an actual price breakdown really doesn't help things - especially when they're charging this much and most people are coming up with a (minimum) $40+ overcharge. As I said in the official crowdfunding thread, they seem to have made it as difficult, awkward and expensive as possible.🤷♂️ |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 17, 2023 5:22:59 GMT -5
If Mattel Creations want to hinder international orders then if/when this doesn't reach the minimum target, they only have themselves to look at in the mirror. If only there was a really simple solution... Oh wait. There is. Just let us pay $400 (or the GBP equivalent), plus the £60 surcharge for shipping (and the £9 "official" shipping if they have to add that too). What's so difficult about that? No overcharge... no hidden-costs... no added "duty and tax included" craziness. They seem to be making things as awkward, complicated - and expensive - as possible... |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 17, 2023 3:38:10 GMT -5
I can’t see not backing this if it was another $40 here in the states. It’s sucks there aren’t the finance options for international buyers, but if you actually want the stage will you let £32 stop you getting a chance at it? It isn't a case of another $40 though. The difference between what USA pays to overseas is $225!! Would you back it if it cost you $625?? If this was $400 I'd see the value and back it. Maybe even multiple. (I backed 10 x New Gen for reference) But at £500 ($625) that's never going to happen. I flat out feel offended that I'm getting charged that much more for the same product than people in the States. Some people are struggling to see value at $400 so try $625 price tag on for moment and feel where our heads and wallets are at concerning backing the project. For the record, I think the stage is  ing awesome ...you're forgetting the extra £9/£17 ($11/$21) shipping ON TOP of that, my friend... |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 17, 2023 0:25:10 GMT -5
Some great suggestions here!
I'm only going with talent we know they still have the rights for... so mine would be:
Elite 2 or 6 Batista
Elite 4 Kane
Elite 8 William Regal (I'm pretty sure he's coming back to WWE?)
Elite 15 Yokozuna
Elite 16 Kevin Nash
Elite 17 John Cena
Elite 19 Miss Elizabeth
Elite 21 Honkey Tonk Man
Elite 72 Gorilla Monsoon (packed with him wearing the black jacket instead, & maroon jacket to the side)
Amazon Excl. Mankind
Legends 3 British Bulldog
Legends 3 Brian Pillman
Legends 3 Jim Duggan
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 16, 2023 23:35:56 GMT -5
I genuinely had to look "Gallus" up on Wikipedia... 🤷♂️
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 16, 2023 23:30:47 GMT -5
There’s way too much that doesn’t add up for the high cost for international buyers and it’s obviously not right. -if shipping is 60 and baked into the cost, why are we paying an extra £9 when we check out? -why are we being charged taxes a year before we need to pay them? -even if we’re paying taxes now, it should amount to £462 in total. Why are we paying £38 more? -£462 would have been in line with the £470 price that was originally listed at. Before it jumped a mysterious £30. They have not been transparent, they’re overcharging no matter what angle you look at it. That is why this has failed. These are such great points. We're already paying MUCH more for the set, so yes - an extra $40/50/60 does matter. Would all the US peeps be OK if Mattel contacted everyone who's backed it and said "we'll have to charge you an extra $50... just because"? Also, along with having to pay extra for the shipping (which is understandable), we are having to pay all the import fees upfront too... and have no price-plan options either. Some people don't think the stage is worth $400 or is a lot to suddenly ask people for? Try $631. It's an even bigger ask. Even if they could just do things like last time where we pay the $ price (or £ equivalent) plus shipping, it would help - as we wouldn't have the extra customs/import charge until next year when it's ready for delivery. This whole thing just seems like a mess - and something Mattel Creations should have sorted out before the backing started. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 16, 2023 22:41:16 GMT -5
Lol this place is a great place of unsuspecting entertainment. Its like a running drama/comedy series these days One week you guys are complaining about RSC pocketing money and straight scamming the international buyers, and the next you want them to be your savior for international shipping with the crowdfund because now Mattel is charging too much and trying to scam you for some unknown reason. Crazy thought of the day - Maybe international shipping for non-Monopoly corporations actually costs $$$. Im sure i'll get s#!t for this but it needed to be said. Oh, we know the shipping will be more expensive... that's pretty obvious. It's the fact that: a. we're still being overcharged (see post above) b. Mattel, for some reason, are being quite secretive with cost breakdown... all we know is that the price includes a £60 shipping surcharge c. Mattel Creations is including - and overcharging - the duty and tax. Not only this, but we have to pay it all up-front (with no payment plan options either). It all just takes the biscuit (...being polite, lol). And it will hurt everyone in the long run, as the set needs all the backers it can get. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 16, 2023 22:32:04 GMT -5
The "overcharge" from Mattel isn't a lot. People are giving out that it's huge, but it's about £40 at most. The minute RSC have to add a fee to do the admin work, store and re-ship these, you're losing that saving you'd hoped to make, and it's probably going to cost you more than if you just got it from Mattel in the first place. The only way this kind of approach saves any money, is if everyone's in agreement to undervalue the product on the shipping declarations (mark it at $100 or something) and then you may potentially save money on customs fees, but would, as above, surely have the saving taken off you in any fees RSC would need to charge to involve themselves with this. I worked out the overcharge to be just over £50 ($62)... But even if it's around £40 ($50), we're already paying A LOT MORE to get this set - and they're asking for an extra $50+... for what? Would US backers be OK with paying an extra $50+... just "because"? |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 16, 2023 22:22:10 GMT -5
I think that if this crowdfund worked more like a preorder, where you pay when the item ships, there would be more backers. I’m not looking to argue the whole “that’s not how crowdfunds work” thing, I’m just talking about people being able to set aside the money. Honestly, if the $400 came due next year when this would ship, I would back this. I would have plenty of time to set aside the money. Even in regards to the “how crowdfunds work” argument, if Mattel had told us well in advance when they knew they were putting this together (instead of vaguely saying “it’s gonna be expensive” weeks prior) people could have prepared. Let me put it this way, in January I bought one of those fancy lightsabers from Galaxy’s Edge in Disney World. Very expensive at over $230, but I decided in August of last year that I was going to buy it. That gave me six months to save and set aside money from my free spending. Springing a $400 cost on me with only a month to figure out where that cash will come gives me no shot at backing this stage. I do think this would’ve helped, or if they said a month or two out that it would be £400 rather than just “not cheap” There’s a finance option but that’s not for international etc Yeah... that's a big drawback too. It's bad enough we're being stung with the extra huge price - we can't even pay in installments. If they could do things like last time (ie. we pay the $ price or £ equivalent, plus shipping), it would help - as we wouldn't have the extra customs/import charge until next year when it's ready for delivery. |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 16, 2023 1:35:15 GMT -5
The Retros X BCAs era has begun! Awesome! Not gonna lie - I would LOVE a new Elite series in that BCA packaging... 😎 |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 22:51:08 GMT -5
Personally, I would want LOD and Demolition, possibly the Nasty Boys, but that’s not happening. Priority #1 needs to be getting the Steiners out while the stars are aligned in a way that makes it possible. It just feels like a volatile situation where they could be out of WWE’s good graces at the drop of a hat, so Mattel needs to get them out while the getting’s good. This exactly! Give us a Basic 2-pack, Elites in tag-team and singles gear, UE tag-team and Scott in singles gear. At least. Pump (...pun intended 🤦♂️) them out as quickly as possible while you can... |
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 21:59:45 GMT -5
LOD or Demolition probably.
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Post by SteveHulk on Apr 15, 2023 20:16:49 GMT -5
...doesn't it show that WCW is a more niche market though? That the collector-base is smaller (than WWE)? At least by the people who voted anyway (no matter how small, lol). By that logic then explain the 47 voters (out of 127) who have already backed? forum.wrestlingfigs.com/thread/374246/wcw-nitro-stage-data-wfigs?page=2Votes on this forum is about as useful as the comments in this thread 🤷🏻♂️😂 Lol... I've no idea. I think being able to select multiple answers (in both polls) complicates things a bit 🥴. |
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