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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 16, 2015 21:00:44 GMT -5
this trash is being booked like it's WCW in 1999. Surprised LL Cool J isn't out here fighting for the IC Title.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 16, 2015 14:56:13 GMT -5
Okay, let's see if I can relate this subject to my AP English class discussion from today:
We just got through reading the Awakening by Kate Chopin; essentially it's about the main character Edna breaking from the social norms of a very strict society. Our class hated Edna and, as a result, the book as a whole. We agreed that Edna was not a good 'fit' as the main character and ultimately the symbol for the grand deviation from society--the ultimate message from the novel. Why we hated Edna, however, was murky. It came down to, essentially, she was just flawed in so many ways. We weren't expecting an omnipotent protagonist, we didn't want such a noble and flawless main character, but just one with some redeeming qualities. Not to mention, we felt both her actions and the ending were not a good representation of what the overarching theme should have demonstrated.
Now to relate that to Roman. At least personally, and I'm sure some of y'all subconciously feel this too, everything about Reigns' aura is piss poor at the moment. His wrestling is "meh," his mic work is "meh," he's shoved down our throats (a sentiment I have strongly stuck by through and through--NO ONE save for Brock in wrestling history has ever beneifitted from that), and he's just not ready to be the face of a company. The crowds aren't particularly invested in him and he doesn't look like a damn threat to the guy who murdered the immortal Undertaker and took a figureative dump on the golden boy Cena. I'm not asking for him to overnight become a technical masterpiece, cut a Heyman-esque promo, and be a totally different wrestler. I just want one redeeming quality, only accessible through time to develop, to make me invested in him as a fan. Like the Awakening, I also feel the actions on the Road to Wrestlemania (i.e., his booking/overall booking of the card) and the plausible end result (him winning clean over Lesnar) are nowhere near an accurate representation of what a quality Wrestlemania build is made of.
I see potential in Roman Reigns--I don't see a bona-fide, day-one champion in him yet. I know he can succeed, otherwise he wouldn't have been put with Ambrose and Rollins to start; he just needs time to develop that potential into success.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 16, 2015 6:37:19 GMT -5
I'll concur with all the nominations here and add Undertaker vs Kane from WM XIV to the list as well.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 15, 2015 13:47:11 GMT -5
You guys got a solid play-by-play/color dynamic going for you, like Kev talks about a part of the match then Bash provides a witty rebuttal and you'll go back-and-forth commentary very well.
As always this one was great. Highlight for me was Kev's awesome t-shirt.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 15, 2015 7:45:54 GMT -5
- Unifying the WWE and World Heavyweight belts was among the worst things the company could've done, for reasons I've thrown about in a ton of threads since it's happened. With the talent pool the company has there should be more guys in big-time feuds and competing for big-time titles. It creates more opportunities to test the waters with a guy rather than hotshot him into the company's biggest title, and it creates fresh feuds on the main event stage. There's only so many days in a calendar year and when you want/hope for guys X Y and Z to be champion but all have lengthy, meaningful reigns with only one belt, guy X could very well be shoved down to the midcard for a year, a position likely to disgruntle the guy while putting him in a scenario where the crowd doesn't feel he belongs (see: Daniel Bryan). Realistically, one could see Dolph Ziggler, Dean Ambrose, Ryback, etc. being a World Champion, but under no circumstances could any of them carry the company's sole World Title for a period of time. With the WHC, it makes it possible for guys like that to be a World Champion, be in that upper eschelon of talent where they deserve, while still not having the burden of being the #1 press guy, main-event-every-night guy where they might not necessarily belong. I guarantee you without a shadow of doubt that if Reigns won the Rumble and went on to face, let's say Rollins, for the World Heavyweight Championship instead of Brock's WWE Title, at least three-quarters of the anti-Reigns group (hell, myself included) wouldn't be complaining at the level which we are. In hindsight, it was a crappy move to unify the belts and constrict the main event picture to such a miniscule and downright "blah" group.
- On the same route, there should be no talk at all of unifying the Intercontinental and United States Championships. Hell, bring back the European Title or Hardcore or Cruiserweight or some other lower-midcard belt while they're at it. More titles is perfectly fine. "Oh the belts are just props nowadays, they don't mean anything." Guys, the premise of belts in the lore of wrestling history AS A WHOLE is to be a glorified prop that people fight over. People win this shiny prop and carry it around for a while until someone else wins it, wash, rinse, repeat. Belts give a more natural and better feud than some of the BS we've gotten from the recent singles feuds (hell, remember when we had those? Like legit, thought-out feuds with no title involved?). Again, they give guys something to do; instead of those pointless Raw matches we get week in and week out, we get matches that revolve around the belt. Again, fresh match-ups evolve from the use of a title. Belts, titles, championships--they make the (wrestling) world go 'round.
- Konnor f'n sucks, but Viktor's pretty good.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 13, 2015 14:15:17 GMT -5
In addition to the truth you guys have been spewing here also take into consideration Jericho has a poor sense of remembrance too. Plenty of occurences in his books are misdated or there are places where he talks about going after the wrong title, etc.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 9, 2015 14:27:07 GMT -5
This just in. Vince has finally admitted to his homosexual relationship with Shawn. Vince just walks in... walks out.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 6, 2015 20:06:21 GMT -5
Please let him win, and have Seth cash-in on RAW. I can't like this post enough. Only way you'll avoid fan backlash at 'Mania. Other scenario is Reigns wins at WM, get chewed out and spit up by the crowd during his first promo as champ on Raw, Lesnar comes out + annihilates him, flips the bird and leaves, allowing Rollins easy pickings for the belt.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 5, 2015 19:10:06 GMT -5
I think if he would've legitimately gotten hurt on it, it'd be on this list too: 'Taker's headfirst dive onto the floor at WM 25. Looked nasty and the glazed-over eyes UT shot out immediately after looked gruesome.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 5, 2015 15:14:17 GMT -5
Imagine if Mr. Perfect hadn't passed in 2003...if he and WWE reconcilled it woulda been cool to have him fight Brock on the road to WM XIX, leading up to Brock fighting another technically sound superstar in Kurt Angle.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 5, 2015 10:34:20 GMT -5
Ladies and Gentlemen was without a doubt the best WM theme of all-time. Such a big time feel that perfectly complemented the first stadium WM in the current streak.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 5, 2015 10:30:12 GMT -5
Eh, woulda preferred MSG but the Barclays Center is a beauty so I can't complain. It's around where I am and not on the other side of the country so I can finally go.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 4, 2015 16:36:23 GMT -5
Eight man isn't bad, but with the talent level in the match it's gonna be hard for all of them to look good for a substantial amount of time (like the WM 25 Money in the Bank had an aging Finlay and non-entertaining Mark Henry to offset guys like Christian and MVP). Like some of y'all have said Goldust/Stardust 2/3 falls on the pre-show would be good.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 3, 2015 17:24:24 GMT -5
XIX is first without a doubt.
XXIV is second. So underrated.
22 is third. Everything but Booker/Boogey and Candice/Torrie is worth your time (yes, even the Casket match). Plus it was in Chi-town which is always a plus.
XXX comes fourth. As some have said nothing but emotions pouring outta that bad boy.
X-Seven fifth. While good I felt the midcard was alright. I prefer the WM2000 ladder match to TLC II here but grand spectacle this one was.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 3, 2015 16:59:42 GMT -5
As bad as I'd want Demott as far away from WWE's future as possible, I think he's around because while the berating of talent is true, the bullying/physical punishment/etc. is not. WWE as a whole, Vince, and HHH would not be dumb enough to keep this guy around after, what, 2 years of hearing the same reports of developmentals talking about the bad things he's done?
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 3, 2015 13:53:25 GMT -5
It seems that Chavo has always been stuck in Eddie's shadow. Even now, one cannot talk about Chavo without talking Eddie. He's in a weird situation when talking about legacies because of that.
Personally, I always thought Chavo had just as good wrestling ability as Eddie, albeit with maybe 3/4ths of the charisma. He was part of Paul Heyman's self-appointed "SmackDown Six" in 2002 (with Eddie, Mysterio, Edge, Benoit and Angle), had a nice niche in the Cruiserweight Divison for a while, and then suddenly DROPPED. Lost the CW title to Hornswoggle of all people, became a punching bag for La Familia, and eventually squandered around till he was getting beat by a green-as-grass Sin Cara and Hornswoggle and suddenly he was gone.
My question to you is: what did Chavo have that Eddie didn't? Was it that he had more of a technical mean streak to him while Eddie was more of a charismatic, high-tempo wrestler? Conversely, what did Chavo lack that stuck him in the shadow of Eddie and ultimately the backburner in WWE? In all I'm just curious to hear your opinions on Chavo Guerrero. I always thought he got a hell of a lot less credit than he deserved.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 3, 2015 12:17:53 GMT -5
My only gripe with his situation is Ambrose likely won't get his first non-Shield PPV win yet. I'm all for the post-'Mania Bryan/Ziggler feud.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 2, 2015 16:57:02 GMT -5
If this rule has been in the TOS since day one, then my father and I have been breaking the TOS since day one. Nearly every night he's on the Network either on his iPad or Roku in the living room while I'm on it on my PS4. As recently as yesterday too. I say it has been in there since day one but someone recently just looked at the TOS and cried foul, leading to this whole hullabaloo.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 1, 2015 21:58:23 GMT -5
Bingo. Give me a reason as a fan to like the guy--while Lesnar is the bigger name Rusev garners more heat. It's easier for a guy like Roman to be a good guy when paired up against Rusev (who'll make him look like a million bucks too) than struggling to hold his own on the mic against Heyman for five weeks and suddenly beat the biggest name in the company outta nowhere.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Mar 1, 2015 19:21:36 GMT -5
Kofi Kingstons whole career. Agreed. Coulda done something in late '09/early '10 with Orton, possibly bringing out a side of him that we haven't seen (kinda what they tried to do leading up to SvS but on a grander scale). Maybe stretch it out till 'Mania and if they were so hellbent on turning Orton face they coulda teased a double-turn at WM...possibly give him a mouthpiece and he's made.
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