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Post by k5 on May 17, 2012 13:24:03 GMT -5
uhhh noo....my point being that humans have indulged in that behavor of their own volition naturally for thousands of years. people NATURALLY feel compelled to other people's butts. it's the plain out truth. an alien or devil didn't fill my head and make me do it. i wanted to, without ever been told of it or thinking it is evil or good. and guess what...most guys want to do it to girls. those that don't seem to usually be tied up in religious or social etiquette. First of all, one doesn't have to be tied up in religious beliefs to think it's unnatural. So the alien or devil comment wasn't needed. I've had this stance before I even decided to live my life as a Christian. And just because people have been doing it for a long time under their own volition doesn't meant that it's what it was meant for. That's all I'm trying to say. What something's been used for for any amount of time doesn't justify it's initial purpose. For the record, I don't do anal because I think it's gross. Religion and social beliefs aside. for something to be natural it has to be of or from nature. this is why i made the 'god or alien' comment - because it shows that these people's will to engage in homosexual acts originates from themselves. homosexuality is both of and from nature. so just because you think it's icky or not, doesn't make it unnatural. it's been occurring since the dawn of mankind and has been documented as such. how is that unnatural? it isn't.
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Post by k5 on May 17, 2012 13:26:58 GMT -5
Interesting. The one's who are against religion are the ones hurling the insults. Go figure. Guess it's time to lock this thread up. don't know what you're going on about, no one is hurling insults.
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Post by Halloween King on May 17, 2012 13:29:44 GMT -5
Interesting. The one's who are against religion are the ones hurling the insults. Go figure. Guess it's time to lock this thread up. don't know what you're going on about, no one is hurling insults. Funny you of all people claim no one is hurling insults. You just called my god a zombie. That is insulting to me.
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Post by k5 on May 17, 2012 13:32:09 GMT -5
don't know what you're going on about, no one is hurling insults. Funny you of all people claim no one is hurling insults. You just called my god a zombie. That is insulting to me. dude...you try to demean homosexuality by talking about how they have crap on their dicks, but say jesus being called a zombie is insulting? get your head out of your ass. my statements were in direct relation to your incitement by needlessly condescending homosexual practices. therefore, i condescended christian practises.
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Post by Halloween King on May 17, 2012 13:40:11 GMT -5
Funny you of all people claim no one is hurling insults. You just called my god a zombie. That is insulting to me. dude...you try to demean homosexuality by talking about how they have crap on their dicks, but say jesus being called a zombie is insulting? get your head out of your ass. my statements were in direct relation to your incitement by needlessly condescending homosexual practices. therefore, i condescended christian practises. I didnt know stating fact was demeaning to homosexual men. FACT, intercourse between two men may lead to anal penetration. FACT the Anus is where poop comes out of. FACT there is poop in your anus. So if you put something in there chances are very high that it will come out dirty, those are just facts. See, this is what I mean by sugar coating. Why act all offended when people state facts? Its just like, hey lets not say we are a gay couple. Lets just say we're a married couple. Lets try and cover the truth with words that have different meanings.
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Post by k5 on May 17, 2012 13:46:01 GMT -5
I didnt know stating fact was demeaning to homosexual men. FACT, intercourse between two men may lead to anal penetration. FACT the Anus is where poop comes out of. FACT there is poop in your anus. So if you put something in there chances are very high that it will come out dirty, those are just facts. oh, so now you're playing cute, eh? don't kid yourself, you're not kidding anyone here. you tried to ridicule homosexual practices and found your foot in your mouth.
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Post by DontHassleTheHoff on May 17, 2012 13:48:52 GMT -5
dude...you try to demean homosexuality by talking about how they have crap on their dicks, but say jesus being called a zombie is insulting? get your head out of your ass. my statements were in direct relation to your incitement by needlessly condescending homosexual practices. therefore, i condescended christian practises. I didnt know stating fact was demeaning to homosexual men. FACT, intercourse between two men may lead to anal penetration. FACT the Anus is where poop comes out of. FACT there is poop in your anus. So if you put something in there chances are very high that it will come out dirty, those are just facts. See, this is what I mean by sugar coating. Why act all offended when people state facts? Its just like, hey lets not say we are a gay couple. Lets just say we're a married couple. Lets try and cover the truth with words that have different meanings. Actually the recomendation is to use condoms for anal sex as well as for vaginal intercourse to prevent spread of STDs. However the way you worded it was very immature, painting the image genitalia covered in feacies.
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Post by k5 on May 17, 2012 13:52:35 GMT -5
Actually the recomendation is to use condoms for anal sex as well as for vaginal intercourse to prevent spread of STDs. However the way you worded it was very immature, painting the image genitalia covered in feacies. exactly. and the worst of it is his denial of this fact, despite it being written out, and as clear as day. you're not fooling ANYONE milincoln, you tried to step all over homosexuality with that comment and as soon as the tables were turned you're the one who is offended? it's laughable.
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Post by Halloween King on May 17, 2012 13:56:41 GMT -5
I didnt know stating fact was demeaning to homosexual men. FACT, intercourse between two men may lead to anal penetration. FACT the Anus is where poop comes out of. FACT there is poop in your anus. So if you put something in there chances are very high that it will come out dirty, those are just facts. See, this is what I mean by sugar coating. Why act all offended when people state facts? Its just like, hey lets not say we are a gay couple. Lets just say we're a married couple. Lets try and cover the truth with words that have different meanings. Actually the recomendation is to use condoms for anal sex as well as for vaginal intercourse to prevent spread of STDs. However the way you worded it was very immature, painting the image genitalia covered in feacies. Do an experiment if you like, insert into an anus. Now look at what you inserted. Is it in the same condition as it was before insertion? Or is there now poop on what you inserted? Every time you go potty and wipe there is poop on that toilet paper isnt there? Where was that poop before you left it in the toilet bowl? Was it in the paper? Or was it in your anus? Now youre going to have the nerve to say I am making false claims in my choice of words or that I am immature because I state facts? F I hate how people sugar coat some things.
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Post by facemeat on May 17, 2012 14:00:48 GMT -5
Actually the recomendation is to use condoms for anal sex as well as for vaginal intercourse to prevent spread of STDs. However the way you worded it was very immature, painting the image genitalia covered in feacies. Do an experiment if you like, insert into an anus. Now look at what you inserted. Is it in the same condition as it was before insertion? Or is there now poop on what you inserted? Every time you go potty and wipe there is poop on that toilet paper isnt there? Where was that poop before you left it in the toilet bowl? Was it in the paper? Or was it in your anus? Now youre going to have the nerve to say I am making false claims in my choice of words or that I am immature because I state facts? F I hate how people sugar coat some things.Like how you think that your god died and was resurrected, but somehow was not a zombie? I'd call that sugarcoating.
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Post by k5 on May 17, 2012 14:05:51 GMT -5
Do an experiment if you like, insert into an anus. Now look at what you inserted. Is it in the same condition as it was before insertion? Or is there now poop on what you inserted? Every time you go potty and wipe there is poop on that toilet paper isnt there? Where was that poop before you left it in the toilet bowl? Was it in the paper? Or was it in your anus? Now youre going to have the nerve to say I am making false claims in my choice of words or that I am immature because I state facts? i in no way tried to claim that anal sex will not result in fecal matter on the genitalia, my only point was how ridiculous and demeaning it is for you to attempt to use that straw as a way to justify your non-acceptance towards homosexuality. you just used it as an attempt to demean and condescend. there was no other reason...i think everyone here is fully aware that with anal sex you may encounter fecal matter. you did it just as an act of disrespect, and that is what i called you out for. there's no sugar coating. just acceptance. it's not my, nor your business if two men willing to engage choose to have sex with one another. for you to throw it under the bus as simply an act of degradation and human filth is not acceptable. it's hate filled, and is the a perfect example of the ignorance that surrounds homosexuality. homosexuality is not just ass sex. it's love between two human beings. you can't attempt to erase that by trying to humiliate their behaviorism(s).
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Post by Hulkamaniac on May 17, 2012 14:06:34 GMT -5
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the civil discussion has died.
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Post by k5 on May 17, 2012 14:13:32 GMT -5
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the civil discussion has died. it never existed: this whole thread was just those of religion denying and hiding from the clear responses kliquid, myself, and others have given from the get-go.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on May 17, 2012 14:38:42 GMT -5
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand the civil discussion has died. it never existed: this whole thread was just those of religion denying and hiding from the clear responses kliquid, myself, and others have given from the get-go. I'd say its more some religious people stating their beliefs and you guys refusing to take no for an answer, whilst often being rude in the process.
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Post by Kliquid on May 17, 2012 14:40:23 GMT -5
Obviously you didnt read my last post. Who mentioned ANYTHING about religion? Look up marriage in a dictionary, what does it say? No, dont read that new liberal dictionary. Calling it a union of two spouses is a half truth. The truth is a marriage is a Man and Woman. Why do people need to bash religion to get there point across? You can't say, "I'm not bringing up religion." By discussing "marriage," you are inherently bringing up religion. I'm not bashing religion. I'm saying that "marriage" is a religious ceremony, which should be left to the religions themselves. EVERY RELIGION has its own right, in this country, to define marriage in the way it sees fit. For example, if my fictional religion decides that "marriage" can be between two men or two women, THAT is my definition of marriage. You have no right to say, "Well MY definition is this, so you." The country was built on this principle and it was the very first thing they put in the bill of rights for a reason.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on May 17, 2012 14:44:06 GMT -5
I feel like a little piece of my soul (and I have so few pieces left) dies when I agree with Kliquid on a political issue, but he's dead on here. There's a huge difference between how a religion defines marriage and how a state defines religion and the two are not related to each other at all. The fact that they are often the same is coincidental.
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Post by k5 on May 17, 2012 14:53:17 GMT -5
it never existed: this whole thread was just those of religion denying and hiding from the clear responses kliquid, myself, and others have given from the get-go. I'd say its more some religious people stating their beliefs and you guys refusing to take no for an answer, whilst often being rude in the process. you're pretty good at popping into a thread every 3-4 pages for a one sentence reply, eh? beliefs aren't grounds for withholding other human being's rights. i think those of religion have gotten away with 'being rude' for a bit too long. i know many people of faith who don't think that gives them a right to infringe upon other people's quality of life and rights.
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Post by Hulkamaniac on May 17, 2012 15:06:10 GMT -5
I'd say its more some religious people stating their beliefs and you guys refusing to take no for an answer, whilst often being rude in the process. you're pretty good at popping into a thread every 3-4 pages for a one sentence reply, eh? beliefs aren't grounds for withholding other human being's rights. i think those of religion have gotten away with 'being rude' for a bit too long. i know many people of faith who don't think that gives them a right to infringe upon other people's quality of life and rights. By your logic then I should be able to walk into a Catholic church tomorrow and get married despite the fact that I'm not Catholic and have no interest in converting. By refusing to marry me the Catholic church would be withholding from me the right to get married. Of course that logic is insane. The Church has every right to withhold from me any sacrament they choose. The state on the other hand does not in most cases.
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Post by k5 on May 17, 2012 15:11:41 GMT -5
By your logic then I should be able to walk into a Catholic church tomorrow and get married despite the fact that I'm not Catholic and have no interest in converting. By refusing to marry me the Catholic church would be withholding from me the right to get married. Of course that logic is insane. The Church has every right to withhold from me any sacrament they choose. The state on the other hand does not in most cases. i think the difference here is very, very clear. nowhere does it say to be a good american citizen that you cannot be homosexual. christianity, on the other hand, says otherwise...or at least the practicing of it. and you sum it up well yourself, the church has the right to exclude anyone of their choosing. what a church represents and what a state represent are two vastly different things.
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Post by T R W on May 17, 2012 15:17:45 GMT -5
Well, that was a nice run.
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