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Post by Nick the Quick on Mar 23, 2015 15:42:19 GMT -5
www.9news.com/story/news/politics/elections/2015/03/23/ted-cruz-2016-presidential-race-announcement/25200013/Ted Cruz recently announced his candidacy in the 2016 presidential race. He's a top member of the GOP and they support him. The irony is, he cannot run because you have to be an American born citizen to run for president, and Cruz was born in Canada. The irony is, the same people who were demanding Obama's birth certificate, even after he was elected and then re-elected, will be the same people praising Cruz. Just an example of how hypocritical the GOP truly is.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 15:47:29 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm totally confused about this. He's from Canada. How the hell is he even running?
And unlike most, I have liked Obama and will be sad to see him go.
All I know is I do NOT want Cruz to win (if he even gets that far?) he's super conservative and hardcore Christian. We don't need another one of them. I'm not overly one way or another but a president shouldn't think with a bible in his hand.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 15:49:41 GMT -5
OHBAMA
You came and you gave without taking.
But I sent you away
OHBAMA
When you kissed me and stopped me from shaking.
And I need you today
OHBAMA
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 17:40:23 GMT -5
Heard about this on Smodcast. Sounds like a jerk off.
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Post by bad guy™ on Mar 23, 2015 17:56:08 GMT -5
Cruz is the epitome of why moderate republicans hate the new surge of the GOP and why Dems essentially hate everything about the Republicans.
Cruz is anti abortion. You're really religious? That's fine by me. You don't believe in abortion? You don't have to. But you're not a woman therefore you have no right to choose whether or not she gets to choose.
Cruz wants every state which has allowed gay marriage to repeal it and all but make it illegal. Again: see my religion comment above. Don't believe in it? Fine. Then don't, yourself, go marry another man. Problem solved. Let people be free to choose who they love.
Cruz wants to eliminate gun control. No limits on what you buy, how much you buy...or scariest, no rules on who can buy them. Yeah, lower/eliminate background checks. Sounds safe to me.
Cruz is intent on ripping insurance away from millions of Americans. I'm all for reforming Obamacare, it has flaws, but it's benefits outweigh the flaws; so yes let's take away insurance from people who need it.
Cruz is the man who is largely responsible for the government shut down that almost drove our economic legitimacy as a nation into the ground.
Oh and let's not forget that he is the child of a non American father, American mother and born in a different country. But that's no big deal since he is a half Latino republican and isn't a half black democrat who was in a similar spot seven years ago, right?
If you can't tell, I'm not Cruz's biggest fan. I'm not one to rip Republicans to shreds this harshly even though I'm a massive leftist Democrat, but the amount of hate I have for Cruz makes me legitimately sick that people would actually consider him a legitimate contender for the Presidency. I'd rather another Bush. And that's saying something.
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Post by The Yes Man on Mar 23, 2015 18:09:50 GMT -5
Other than this guy, who are the front runners for president in 2016. I haven't really heard anything yet until now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 18:14:35 GMT -5
I think Hillary might run again.
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Post by bad guy™ on Mar 23, 2015 18:19:51 GMT -5
Other than this guy, who are the front runners for president in 2016. I haven't really heard anything yet until now. Depends on who you ask. Most people will say for the Republicans it's Ted Cruz (TX), Jeb Bush (Fmr Gov. Florida), Chris Christie (Gov. New Jersey) and Scott Walker (Gov. Wisconsin). Rick Santorum (Fmr Sen. PA) made noise but it looks like he won't run again, and senators Rand Paul (Kentucky) and Marco Rubio (Florida) are loved by the party, but neither have really said too much other than deflecting questions. For the Democrats it's really a wait and see till Hillary Clinton makes her choice. But essentially the only dogs in the race are Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders (Sen. VT), Elizabeth Warren (Sen. Massachusetts) and if he has any real desire, Vice President Biden. The old Virginia governor is making a little bit of noise but that's about the extent of it for the Dems. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 18:20:54 GMT -5
If those are the Republicans running then I'm worried, I don't like any of them.
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Post by slappy on Mar 23, 2015 18:21:13 GMT -5
You don't have to be American born, you have to be a born American citizen. Cruz is an American citizen because his mother was.
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Post by slappy on Mar 23, 2015 18:22:01 GMT -5
Martin O'Malley is definitely running and he's hoping Hillary doesn't or stumbles so he can get the Democratic nomination.
Elizabeth Warren swears up and down that she's not running.
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Post by bad guy™ on Mar 23, 2015 18:23:20 GMT -5
You don't have to be American born, you have to be a born American citizen. Cruz is an American citizen because his mother was. That's what I said. And Obama's a citizen too. Point is you don't have nearly as many "YOURE NUTZ MURIKANZ" people going after Cruz like they did Obama. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 18:25:16 GMT -5
You don't have to be American born, you have to be a born American citizen. Cruz is an American citizen because his mother was. That's what I said. And Obama's a citizen too. Point is you don't have nearly as many "YOURE NUTZ MURIKANZ" people going after Cruz like they did Obama. Very true. Gee, wonder why... |
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Post by slappy on Mar 23, 2015 18:25:57 GMT -5
Other than this guy, who are the front runners for president in 2016. I haven't really heard anything yet until now. Depends on who you ask. Most people will say for the Republicans it's Ted Cruz (TX), Jeb Bush (Fmr Gov. Florida), Chris Christie (Gov. New Jersey) and Scott Walker (Gov. Wisconsin). Rick Santorum (Fmr Sen. PA) made noise but it looks like he won't run again, and senators Rand Paul (Kentucky) and Marco Rubio (Florida) are loved by the party, but neither have really said too much other than deflecting questions. For the Democrats it's really a wait and see till Hillary Clinton makes her choice. But essentially the only dogs in the race are Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders (Sen. VT), Elizabeth Warren (Sen. Massachusetts) and if he has any real desire, Vice President Biden. The old Virginia governor is making a little bit of noise but that's about the extent of it for the Dems. Santorum is most likely running. Rand Paul is announcing his candidacy on April 7. There are a bunch of other Republicans that are most likely running that you haven't mentioned. Carly Fiorina, Ben Carson and Mike Huckabee to name a few. Jim Webb is looking to run but he was the Senator of Virginia. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 18:26:18 GMT -5
I think Ted Cruz kind of looks like Quentin Tarantino.
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Post by bad guy™ on Mar 23, 2015 18:26:34 GMT -5
Martin O'Malley is definitely running and he's hoping Hillary doesn't or stumbles so he can get the Democratic nomination. Elizabeth Warren swears up and down that she's not running. Can't see O'Malley getting widespread support. Problem with this election is, sadly, a NAME is going to be needed to decide this one, especially if Bush or Christie come out unscathed. Hence half of the problems with my noms too. As for Warren, yes she's sworn up and down she won't run. But if she's not running, she's been making some Democratic Party/Hillary Clinton supporters be damned speeches lately. She could be doing what Ron Paul did and make people think...but I think she's not being forthcoming. Warren is prepping for a run, |
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Post by slappy on Mar 23, 2015 18:28:23 GMT -5
Martin O'Malley is definitely running and he's hoping Hillary doesn't or stumbles so he can get the Democratic nomination. Elizabeth Warren swears up and down that she's not running. Can't see O'Malley getting widespread support. Problem with this election is, sadly, a NAME is going to be needed to decide this one, especially if Bush or Christie come out unscathed. Hence half of the problems with my noms too. As for Warren, yes she's sworn up and down she won't run. But if she's not running, she's been making some Democratic Party/Hillary Clinton supporters be damned speeches lately. She could be doing what Ron Paul did and make people think...but I think she's not being forthcoming. Warren is prepping for a run, O'Malley can pull a Jimmy Carter. Unknown Governor that gets the nomination. I'm iffy on Christie running especially all the problems he's had. He might run but I don't think he gets far. They are saying that she's making no moves to run including not hiring anyone. |
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Post by bad guy™ on Mar 23, 2015 18:30:00 GMT -5
Depends on who you ask. Most people will say for the Republicans it's Ted Cruz (TX), Jeb Bush (Fmr Gov. Florida), Chris Christie (Gov. New Jersey) and Scott Walker (Gov. Wisconsin). Rick Santorum (Fmr Sen. PA) made noise but it looks like he won't run again, and senators Rand Paul (Kentucky) and Marco Rubio (Florida) are loved by the party, but neither have really said too much other than deflecting questions. For the Democrats it's really a wait and see till Hillary Clinton makes her choice. But essentially the only dogs in the race are Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders (Sen. VT), Elizabeth Warren (Sen. Massachusetts) and if he has any real desire, Vice President Biden. The old Virginia governor is making a little bit of noise but that's about the extent of it for the Dems. Santorum is most likely running. Rand Paul is announcing his candidacy on April 7. There are a bunch of other Republicans that are most likely running that you haven't mentioned. Carly Fiorina, Ben Carson and Mike Huckabee to name a few. Jim Webb is looking to run but he was the Senator of Virginia. Only reason I said no to Santorum is because I actually get to hear a little bit from him now and then living in the home state. Unlike other candidates who have said no and aren't believable, Santorum's got a lot on his shoulders. He's a radical who would have to appear to be less radical than Cruz and put up one of the great political fights against the juggernaut that is Jeb Bush, and the cult of personality figure in Christie. I can't see Santorum slaying those three beasts. And I think he knows it. And Paul is gonna run? I quit this country. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 18:31:49 GMT -5
I wonder if Kliquid will return to campaign for another Paul?
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Post by bad guy™ on Mar 23, 2015 18:34:37 GMT -5
Can't see O'Malley getting widespread support. Problem with this election is, sadly, a NAME is going to be needed to decide this one, especially if Bush or Christie come out unscathed. Hence half of the problems with my noms too. As for Warren, yes she's sworn up and down she won't run. But if she's not running, she's been making some Democratic Party/Hillary Clinton supporters be damned speeches lately. She could be doing what Ron Paul did and make people think...but I think she's not being forthcoming. Warren is prepping for a run, O'Malley can pull a Jimmy Carter. Unknown Governor that gets the nomination. I'm iffy on Christie running especially all the problems he's had. He might run but I don't think he gets far. They are saying that she's making no moves to run including not hiring anyone. Carter wouldn't get elected today. Carter probably wouldn't even win a primary today. Carter won the primary legitimately but beat Ford because, well, Ford. You already know where I'm going there. Warren's not forming groups/working with PACs because she doesn't have to yet. She won't run if Hillary does for the betterment of the party, but if Hillary doesn't, she's got something going for her. I call your Jimmy Carter effect and raise you a more plausible Adlai Stevenson effect. |
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