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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 5:47:34 GMT -5
It occurs to me that we need a thread about Avengers:AOU outside of the MCU thread. Sooner or later there is gonna be a whopper dropped in the MCU thread and its gonna cause bad blood.
Now my thoughts on the movie.....and what I LOVED.
The team dynamic here was awesome during their assault on Strucker/annihilation of Hydra. When Hulk just ran through that bunker like it was a sandcastle I marked out.
Starks Wanda caused vision leading to his obsession with "suit of armor around the world"......also great to see that Von Strucker was messing with Chitauri tech. There must have been tons laying around after Avengers.
I had said previously that I felt there was an Infinity Stone in the sceptre....but I got sh*t over it repeatedly(not here on other forums) and lo & behold I was right.
Thor's worry over 4 of the stones rearing their head in recent times was nice to see....especially after his vision in the waters.
Scarlet Witch & Quicksilver were great IMO......the brief glimpse of what she is capable of after Quicksilvers VERY unexpected death was great. Also great how they tied back to IM1 with why they hated Stark.
FRIDAY(replacement AI for Jarvis) being Irish was just amazing to me. I love Kerry Condon and I was made up for her to get this part.....she said she was giddy when Whedon asked her to use her own accent for the lines. The interplay between Stark and Friday was great.
Black Widow and Hawkeye got some SERIOUS character development here......I never expected to see the red room or hear about the Widow strerilisation process. Hawkeyes development was even better.
LOVED The Hulkbuster armour and as I marvelled about how adaptive/clever it was with the pods following them carrying spare parts -it was then revealed Banner helped Stark design it......absolutely great move by Whedon.
Spader as Ultron.......classic stuff here.....too much good to remember. Loved his endgame plot too......
Captain America is yet again THE man......LOVED him in this movie. Stark, Thor, Hawkeye & Hulk departing at the end of the movie and being replaced by Vision, Falcon, War Machine & Scarlet Witch is cool beans.
LOVED Paul Bettany as the Vision. He was incredible IMO......
I'm sure Ill think of more or agree with more as folks post.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Apr 26, 2015 6:53:32 GMT -5
Hawkeye's development was excellent. I also loved the teamwork in action scenes, particularly between Thor and Cap.
I am guessing Cap will 'die' in Cap 3 and Stark will take his role as head of the new Avengers. Cap will then come back in Infinity War 2 and kill Thanos by hitting him with Thor's hammer.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 7:08:35 GMT -5
Hawkeye's development was excellent. I also loved the teamwork in action scenes, particularly between Thor and Cap. I am guessing Cap will 'die' in Cap 3 and Stark will take his role as head of the new Avengers. Cap will then come back in Infinity War 2 and kill Thanos by hitting him with Thor's hammer. I don't think he will die Mike......I think he will walk away disgusted over something or another. Eitherway.....after the end of AOU?Cap III is shaping up to be DAMN interesting. Aside from Stark you have Widow, Hawkeye, Falcon and Scarlet Witch in there......Probably Winter Soldier too. Also where the hell does Zemo fit in? But in the Russos I trust. CAII:TWS was awesome.....these 2 know the score. One thing I would have liked in A2 was Stark acknowledging Hydra killed his folks. Surely Cap told him this? I genuinely felt that's what ignited this drive to exterminate Hydra. UNLESS Winter Soldier killed the Starks.....and Cap didn't tell Tony? Could that be a crucial plot element for Cap 3?
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Post by Red Dragon on Apr 26, 2015 12:11:08 GMT -5
Like I said, I enjoyed the film. Good action flick. Almost on par as the original, it was just more of the same. But they couldn't replicate the forming of the Avengers. That said, I can name three films I've seen this year which I preferred.
Now a few things I disliked about the movie (there would be plenty of good points but there's no point in listing them)
Didn't like how they were all together at the start. It was a badass beginning but maybe a flashback to them uniting.
Black Widow/Hulk relationship came outta nowhere and really damages Widow as a feminist character. Made her seem reliant on a man. Horrible.
Vision. Pretty bland and only showed up at the end.
The new Avengers. Esp War Machine and Falcon who are just the sidekicks to Iron Man/Cap.
I am going to see it again, maybe my views will change. I'm not saying it's a bad film, I very much enjoyed it. I just wanted to list my bad points.
Speaking of Winter Soldier, how cool would it have been to see him in a post credit scene just watching on (either after the wreckage or via TV coverage).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 12:18:30 GMT -5
. Speaking of Winter Soldier, how cool would it have been to see him in a post credit scene just watching on (either after the wreckage or via TV coverage). I was half expecting to see a cameo from him man....I dunno why but for some reason I was VERY aware he might show.
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Post by Darkhawk on Apr 26, 2015 16:28:33 GMT -5
Just finished watching it and I loved it. My only complaint was I wish Ultron was more of an actual threat, as he could hardly hold his own when he went up against Iron Man, Thor and Cap on a one-on-one fight. Also wished The Avengers acknowledge Quicksilver's death at least a bit more cuz it seemed like they didn't care much he died.
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Post by Starscream on Apr 26, 2015 19:27:39 GMT -5
Ultron was so disappointing, telling jokes and one liners? What the heck? At least it makes some kind of sense since Tony created him then Ultron is trying to emulate him (Not Pym in this version). Still what a lame version of Ultron, has no real threat or menace to him, and the sad thing is that Ultron is really a terrifying villian in the comics, when you confront Ultron you just see a robot with no expression whatsoever, you dont know what the heck he is thinking, or what he will do next, he can tell you he hates humanity or his "father" but you really dont know because theres no expression on his face, that made him so unpredictable and terrifying, thats just lost here, plus the Avengers themselves making everything so light and funny in every situation they are in, doesnt help the "threat" Ultron is suppose to be in the film in any way whatsoever. Its the same problem I had with GOTG, trying too hard in making it as casual and quirky in every scene. Winter Soldier had the best balance of humour/action/plot but for me it seems we are taking a step back.
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Post by Darkhawk on Apr 26, 2015 20:55:21 GMT -5
Ultron was so disappointing, telling jokes and one liners? What the heck? At least it makes some kind of sense since Tony created him then Ultron is trying to emulate him (Not Pym in this version). Still what a lame version of Ultron, has no real threat or menace to him, and the sad thing is that Ultron is really a terrifying villian in the comics, when you confront Ultron you just see a robot with no expression whatsoever, you dont know what the heck he is thinking, or what he will do next, he can tell you he hates humanity or his "father" but you really dont know because theres no expression on his face, that made him so unpredictable and terrifying, thats just lost here, plus the Avengers themselves making everything so light and funny in every situation they are in, doesnt help the "threat" Ultron is suppose to be in the film in any way whatsoever. Its the same problem I had with GOTG, trying too hard in making it as casual and quirky in every scene. Winter Soldier had the best balance of humour/action/plot but for me it seems we are taking a step back. I agree with you one some level, but I still think it was a good movie. My complaint is I feel Age of Ultron should of been more serious. Ultron should of shown no mercy to the Avengers and try to kill them on the spot instead of telling jokes and stuff. Hopefully Infinity Wars will be taken seriously as Thanos isn't someone who jokes around at all.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 9:56:54 GMT -5
I enjoyed the reference to the Winter Soldier too. nicely explained Falcons absence.....He was off investigating that "missing person".....
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Apr 27, 2015 12:44:45 GMT -5
What's everyone's favourite joke? Nothing stands out to me as much as the two humorous Hulk scenes in the final battle of Avengers 1, but I did enjoy Stark at the beginning saying 'Good talk' and the guy replying 'No it wasn't!'. Also enjoyed the discussion about the Hammer going up in a lift and whether that makes it worthy at the end. Hawkeye's development was excellent. I also loved the teamwork in action scenes, particularly between Thor and Cap. I am guessing Cap will 'die' in Cap 3 and Stark will take his role as head of the new Avengers. Cap will then come back in Infinity War 2 and kill Thanos by hitting him with Thor's hammer. I don't think he will die Mike......I think he will walk away disgusted over something or another. Eitherway.....after the end of AOU?Cap III is shaping up to be DAMN interesting. Aside from Stark you have Widow, Hawkeye, Falcon and Scarlet Witch in there......Probably Winter Soldier too. Also where the hell does Zemo fit in? But in the Russos I trust. CAII:TWS was awesome.....these 2 know the score. One thing I would have liked in A2 was Stark acknowledging Hydra killed his folks. Surely Cap told him this? I genuinely felt that's what ignited this drive to exterminate Hydra. UNLESS Winter Soldier killed the Starks.....and Cap didn't tell Tony? Could that be a crucial plot element for Cap 3? I can't see Cap ever walking away, whereas Tony already has at the end of AOU (not in a bitter way btw). I think if Winter Soldier killed the Starks Cap would have told him. Its possible Stark finds out and assumes Cap knew but he didn't? Or perhaps Cap finds out, tells Tony, Tony gets angry and s up the hunt for the Winter Soldier, pissing off Cap and driving a wedge? Cap III has more possibilities than any other Marvel movie, and I trust the Russo Brothers to pick the best one. Cap II is imo the best superhero film there is.
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Post by MacReady on Apr 27, 2015 12:47:51 GMT -5
What's everyone's favourite joke? Nothing stands out to me as much as the two humorous Hulk scenes in the final battle of Avengers 1, but I did enjoy Stark at the beginning saying 'Good talk' and the guy replying 'No it wasn't!'. Also enjoyed the discussion about the Hammer going up in a lift and whether that makes it worthy at the end.I don't think he will die Mike......I think he will walk away disgusted over something or another. Eitherway.....after the end of AOU?Cap III is shaping up to be DAMN interesting. Aside from Stark you have Widow, Hawkeye, Falcon and Scarlet Witch in there......Probably Winter Soldier too. Also where the hell does Zemo fit in? But in the Russos I trust. CAII:TWS was awesome.....these 2 know the score. One thing I would have liked in A2 was Stark acknowledging Hydra killed his folks. Surely Cap told him this? I genuinely felt that's what ignited this drive to exterminate Hydra. UNLESS Winter Soldier killed the Starks.....and Cap didn't tell Tony? Could that be a crucial plot element for Cap 3? I can't see Cap ever walking away, whereas Tony already has at the end of AOU (not in a bitter way btw). I think if Winter Soldier killed the Starks Cap would have told him. Its possible Stark finds out and assumes Cap knew but he didn't? Or perhaps Cap finds out, tells Tony, Tony gets angry and s up the hunt for the Winter Soldier, pissing off Cap and driving a wedge? Cap III has more possibilities than any other Marvel movie, and I trust the Russo Brothers to pick the best one. Cap II is imo the best superhero film there is. I thought Hawkeye's self aware "AND I A BOW AND ARROW, NONE OF THIS MAKES SENSE" line was HILARIOUS, even though it obviously was during a more serious speech. Hawkeye SHINED in this movie, I'm so glad he did, Renner plays him to absolute perfection.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 12:51:05 GMT -5
The Hawkeye character development was SPOT ON. Also Widows further development was brilliance.
my favourite funny was when Hulk leaped onto the Quinjet and Ultron exclaims in a exhausted fashion "oh for Gods sake"
Great stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 12:56:03 GMT -5
What's everyone's favourite joke? Nothing stands out to me as much as the two humorous Hulk scenes in the final battle of Avengers 1, but I did enjoy Stark at the beginning saying 'Good talk' and the guy replying 'No it wasn't!'. Also enjoyed the discussion about the Hammer going up in a lift and whether that makes it worthy at the end. I don't think he will die Mike......I think he will walk away disgusted over something or another. Eitherway.....after the end of AOU?Cap III is shaping up to be DAMN interesting. Aside from Stark you have Widow, Hawkeye, Falcon and Scarlet Witch in there......Probably Winter Soldier too. Also where the hell does Zemo fit in? But in the Russos I trust. CAII:TWS was awesome.....these 2 know the score. One thing I would have liked in A2 was Stark acknowledging Hydra killed his folks. Surely Cap told him this? I genuinely felt that's what ignited this drive to exterminate Hydra. UNLESS Winter Soldier killed the Starks.....and Cap didn't tell Tony? Could that be a crucial plot element for Cap 3? I can't see Cap ever walking away, whereas Tony already has at the end of AOU (not in a bitter way btw). I think if Winter Soldier killed the Starks Cap would have told him. Its possible Stark finds out and assumes Cap knew but he didn't? Or perhaps Cap finds out, tells Tony, Tony gets angry and s up the hunt for the Winter Soldier, pissing off Cap and driving a wedge? Cap III has more possibilities than any other Marvel movie, and I trust the Russo Brothers to pick the best one. Cap II is imo the best superhero film there is. I could easily see Cap walking away Mike......I hope Infinity War 1 reaches a climax with Thanos and his army just about to get the best of the Avengers Squad: IM, BW, Hawkeye, War Machine, Scarlet Witch, Falcon & Vision....... and the movie ends with backup arriving......Cap,Thor, Hulk, GOTG, Winter Soldier, Black Panther & Dr Strange. Man I would mark out like a f*cking woman at a shoe shop sale.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Apr 30, 2015 22:58:17 GMT -5
I absolutely loved this movie. I really don't get why so many people have been down on it. The only two things I can think of is that The humor worked great with the audience laughing at all of the right times. Tony had a lot of great one liners. Clint's threat to shoot Pietro was great, as was his "None of this makes sense" line. While it was odd to see Ultron have jokes, I think they all worked, and that's 100% a credit to James Spader. Clint was great, I'm really happy his role was expanded. I love that he was the only one that didn't get hypnotized by Wanda. The reveal of his family was interesting. Bruce and Natasha was good. I don't agree with people who say it hurts her as a feminist character. Their relationship was as much him needing her as the reverse. Feminists fall in love too, and since she was never turned into a trophy or second fiddle to him, I'm happy. I hope things work out for them down the line. Besides that, Johansson and Ruffalo played it perfectly. The twins were awesome. It's funny how people said last year that DoFP's Quicksilver couldn't be topped, but to me he was in every way. I'm really sad they killed him off too. Wanda was also great. Her losing it at the end was nice. I also loved the touch of Vision being the one who saved her. It worked in story as he can fly, but I'm sure that was also an intentional nod to the comics. Speaking of Vision. I loved him in this movie. The way he was built, the inclusion of the Mind Gem, him picking up the hammer, etc. There wasn't enough of him, but man Bettany was great. The cameos were also great. I'm really excited to see more of Andy Serkis as the Klaw. I thought it was odd that he lost the wrong arm, but that's often done in films so the actors can keep their dominant hands, so it's fine. The stinger was great. I can't wait to see Thanos take care of business. I can't wait to see how they reveal the last two gems. I still have my fingers crossed that Adam Warlock will be involved with the soul gem, and the time gem should lead to an interesting story. I'm curious which films will reveal them. I'm guessing at least one will be in GotG 2. Man,I love the MCU. I'm really looking forward to Ant Man, but I wish it were time for the other upcoming films already. Three years for Black Panther and Captain Marvel, plus four years for Inhumans is just too much. Civil War and Doctor Strange next year should be pretty awesome at least.
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Post by gravedigger3 on May 1, 2015 1:36:53 GMT -5
I LOVED the movie. I've heard rumors that a character dies in this film, so with Hawkeye being built up so much and the reveal of his family I thought he would be the one that dies, glad he didn't . Didn't care about his character in the 1st movie but now he's one of my favorites
I never read the comics so can someone explain Black Widows past? The mind control part has me confused to what happened to her before.
I love all the one liners "no it wasn't !" "you had a long day so it's okay if you can't get it up"
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Post by punksnotdead on May 1, 2015 8:27:29 GMT -5
Whedon sure does love his dramatic death scenes. I should have seen that coming but I totally didn't. I do think the Quicksilver death was a little under played after the scene was actually over. It would have been nice to have them sort of acknowledge him and then subsequently SW because of it. Brief dialogue would have been fine, but the Hawkeye scene on the carrier laying next to his body really wasn't enough imo. Such a minor complaint but I did think that QS deserved more attention for his death.
Beyond that, I thought the movie was absolutely incredible. I kind of went into it thinking there is no humanly way it will be better than the first and I think that it probably was better, for me anyway. The characters have all evolved from the first and second waves of films and the interactions and dynamic now were so much easier to believe. The hammer scene at the party was amazing. I ate that entire deal up.
The post credit scene literally popped people into a cheer in my theater. I totally agree with the reaction. OMFG. So amazing and Thanos ties everything together. He's this grand design that has existed the entire time and it took like 10 movies to really reveal what is actually going on.
My absolute favorite scene of the film was when all of the Avengers were guarding the spike in the middle of the church and they started fighting off the waves of Ultron bots. I got goosebumps from it. I genuinely had like an out of body, I'm 5 years old, can't believe what I'm seeing type of moment. That scene and then the shot of Hulk in the jet from behind flying away were just gorgeous and iconic imo. Anyway, I loved the movie and it more than lived up to my expectations. I do wish we would have seen Winter Soldier though. He's one of my favorite characters and a brief moment with him would have been perfect.
Did anyone else get the free poster? My theater had these super nice white Avengers posters that had the embossed logo on it and all of the characters are worked into the design. The nicest hand out poster I've ever seen. I'm planning on framing the one I got and putting it in my office at work.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 9:19:54 GMT -5
I absolutely loved this movie. I really don't get why so many people have been down on it. . I have heard very few moaning man.......and the ones I have heard moaning are clearly doing so to be "cool or different" The MCU rocks......its just SO good. I have seen this 3 times and my God its just brilliance.
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Post by JKLMD2002 on May 1, 2015 12:46:23 GMT -5
Here's my review for those interested in a longer version: spamfiles.com/2015/05/01/avengers-age-of-ultron/I LOVED it! Really enjoyed how it felt like a comic book with one current threat and several rising up or continuing while the Avengers are dealing with Ultron. I appreciated how it wasn't just the Iron Man show and how much everyone got to do. I was geeked out as Vision was talking with the others and I was thinking 'wow, this is Goliath & Wasp, Black Panther, Captain Marvel and Wonder Man away from being all my favorite Avengers in a live-action movie!'
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2015 13:34:32 GMT -5
Here's my review for those interested in a longer version: spamfiles.com/2015/05/01/avengers-age-of-ultron/I LOVED it! Really enjoyed how it felt like a comic book with one current threat and several rising up or continuing while the Avengers are dealing with Ultron. I appreciated how it wasn't just the Iron Man show and how much everyone got to do. I was geeked out as Vision was talking with the others and I was thinking 'wow, this is Goliath & Wasp, Black Panther, Captain Marvel and Wonder Man away from being all my favorite Avengers in a live-action movie!' Great stuff man!!
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Post by JKLMD2002 on May 1, 2015 14:11:20 GMT -5
Thanks Joker. Really looking forward to the next installments!
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