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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 18:02:10 GMT -5
jeezus christ, you guys take this sht WAAAAAAY too seriously powerfred3k then don't buy it, end of discussion
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Post by powerfred3k on May 5, 2016 19:28:05 GMT -5
This be glad we got something attitude is the reason Mattel flakes on these premium figures and why we get elites with "authentic attire" and "includes knee pads" as an accessory. I'm voting with my wallet and spending my money elsewhere. Mattel needs to point blank step up there game. No its not. That has no say in it. Sure, bill will take our suggestions into consideration..but they wont bend to you. The more you buy, the better the line will get. Sales go up, budget goes up I am not asking anyone to bend to my will. I am looking the the current product mattel is making for wwe and finding it very lacking. I would say other than the elite demom balor and a diva figure here and there i am have been disappointed and will take my money elsewhere. I am not going to keep buying wwe figures that i don't want or like in the hopes they do a better job in the future Mattel should be able to figure it out, they have been in the game for a while. If they can't do it then bring in someone else. If mattel sells less wwe figures it affects them greatly. When the ceo asks whats going on with the wwe figures sales drop. The people working in the wwe/mattel department can then answer to him. If you start nickel and diming people its only a matter a time before people have enough. If i where to blindly support mattel/wwe and buy everything, then getting "authentic attire and kneepads" will be the standard and commonplace. If you want my money you have to earn it, and right now mattel is not. This gab sting is just the latest example. There must be something to what i am saying because mattel would not be packing these bonus belts into basics.
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on May 5, 2016 21:48:26 GMT -5
No its not. That has no say in it. Sure, bill will take our suggestions into consideration..but they wont bend to you. The more you buy, the better the line will get. Sales go up, budget goes up I am not asking anyone to bend to my will. I am looking the the current product mattel is making for wwe and finding it very lacking. I would say other than the elite demom balor and a diva figure here and there i am have been disappointed and will take my money elsewhere. I am not going to keep buying wwe figures that i don't want or like in the hopes they do a better job in the future Mattel should be able to figure it out, they have been in the game for a while. If they can't do it then bring in someone else. If mattel sells less wwe figures it affects them greatly. When the ceo asks whats going on with the wwe figures sales drop. The people working in the wwe/mattel department can then answer to him. If you start nickel and diming people its only a matter a time before people have enough. If i where to blindly support mattel/wwe and buy everything, then getting "authentic attire and kneepads" will be the standard and commonplace. If you want my money you have to earn it, and right now mattel is not. This gab sting is just the latest example. There must be something to what i am saying because mattel would not be packing these bonus belts into basics. Mattel packed bonus belts on day 1, son
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Post by jsmells on May 5, 2016 21:50:33 GMT -5
I heard Mattel did the jacket this way to see adults complain.
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Post by champofakind on May 5, 2016 21:51:57 GMT -5
This has been the first figure since that awful midget Ambrose sig series.. I shook my head at and put back on the shelf. Sad thing is this DM Sting is targeted more towards collectors and the crappy Ambrose was just a 9 dollar basic fast grab for current Ambrose.
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Post by powerfred3k on May 5, 2016 22:40:14 GMT -5
I am not asking anyone to bend to my will. I am looking the the current product mattel is making for wwe and finding it very lacking. I would say other than the elite demom balor and a diva figure here and there i am have been disappointed and will take my money elsewhere. I am not going to keep buying wwe figures that i don't want or like in the hopes they do a better job in the future Mattel should be able to figure it out, they have been in the game for a while. If they can't do it then bring in someone else. If mattel sells less wwe figures it affects them greatly. When the ceo asks whats going on with the wwe figures sales drop. The people working in the wwe/mattel department can then answer to him. If you start nickel and diming people its only a matter a time before people have enough. If i where to blindly support mattel/wwe and buy everything, then getting "authentic attire and kneepads" will be the standard and commonplace. If you want my money you have to earn it, and right now mattel is not. This gab sting is just the latest example. There must be something to what i am saying because mattel would not be packing these bonus belts into basics. Mattel packed bonus belts on day 1, son I stand corrected, they did have bonus belts for a while. Then got rid of them for several years and recently brought them back.
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Post by crush on May 5, 2016 23:41:31 GMT -5
I'll never understand why people fetishize cloth accessories. Sure, tee shirts look miles better that way. But almost anything heavily detailed looks terrible and ill-fitting in cloth IMO. For example, the Mattel Sting jacket looks miles better than the cloth Jacks version. The RSC exclusive Bret is another example that pops directly to mind. That jacket would never look good in cloth at this scale. well, the reason i buy "action figures" is i want to pose them, the way i desire. and that's hard to accomplished or even not possible with the rubber/plastic thingy That's fair. I was always more interested in aesthetics when it came to entrance gear.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 2:13:53 GMT -5
No its not. That has no say in it. Sure, bill will take our suggestions into consideration..but they wont bend to you. The more you buy, the better the line will get. Sales go up, budget goes up I am not asking anyone to bend to my will. I am looking the the current product mattel is making for wwe and finding it very lacking. I would say other than the elite demom balor and a diva figure here and there i am have been disappointed and will take my money elsewhere. I am not going to keep buying wwe figures that i don't want or like in the hopes they do a better job in the future Mattel should be able to figure it out, they have been in the game for a while. If they can't do it then bring in someone else. If mattel sells less wwe figures it affects them greatly. When the ceo asks whats going on with the wwe figures sales drop. The people working in the wwe/mattel department can then answer to him. If you start nickel and diming people its only a matter a time before people have enough. If i where to blindly support mattel/wwe and buy everything, then getting "authentic attire and kneepads" will be the standard and commonplace. If you want my money you have to earn it, and right now mattel is not. This gab sting is just the latest example. There must be something to what i am saying because mattel would not be packing these bonus belts into basics. Dont buy figures you dont like. I buy maybe 1 figure per series, because i buy what i truly want. I couldnt care less about accessories, because if i like the figure enough to buy it..ill buy it either way. Not saying blindly follow and buy everything. Again, higher sales, higher budget. Lower sales.. lines get scrapped, budget goes down.
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Post by vashts on May 6, 2016 9:18:36 GMT -5
Mattel knew fans would be upset and did not care. They knew it was something people wanted and wanted to charge 25 regardless. It says a lot that Mattel released the modern Sting as a regular elite and the flashback as a DM. It only really includes a jacket which we have seen in numerous other regular Elites.
They simply maximized profits. but to see figure fans defending their poor actions is disturbing. Mattel gave fans the shaft. Defining Moments is a line that they pick popular characters and simply charge more for the same or less accessories than Elites....and that's a fact.
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Post by powerfred3k on May 6, 2016 9:40:38 GMT -5
Mattel knew fans would be upset and did not care. They knew it was something people wanted and wanted to charge 25 regardless. It says a lot that Mattel released the modern Sting as a regular elite and the flashback as a DM. It only really includes a jacket which we have seen in numerous other regular Elites. They simply maximized profits. but to see figure fans defending their poor actions is disturbing. Mattel gave fans the shaft. Defining Moments is a line that they pick popular characters and simply charge more for the same or less accessories than Elites....and that's a fact. Exactly my friend, we both see things the same way. I would go one step further and say if this is going to be the norm for Mattel then just cancel the DM line +again).
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on May 6, 2016 9:43:46 GMT -5
I wish Bill would have just gone with the soft goods jacket. SO what that the tassels would have been unrealistically thick? As it is with the rubber jacket, the tassels are all together and unmovable, and the jacket restricts any type of arm movement at all.....so really, which one is worse and more unrealistic?
I'll take tassels that are a little too thick over a jacket that is essentially a BODY CAST.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 9:57:12 GMT -5
Mattel knew fans would be upset and did not care. They knew it was something people wanted and wanted to charge 25 regardless. It says a lot that Mattel released the modern Sting as a regular elite and the flashback as a DM. It only really includes a jacket which we have seen in numerous other regular Elites. They simply maximized profits. but to see figure fans defending their poor actions is disturbing. Mattel gave fans the shaft. Defining Moments is a line that they pick popular characters and simply charge more for the same or less accessories than Elites....and that's a fact. Hardly would say that they knew fans would be upset and did not care. Bill from Mattel said: Jacket being molded was an aesthetic decision based on the facts 1) Sting's arm streamers were much thinner and more numerous than Macho Man's. If I used a SG jacket he would have streamers the same size as Macho Man's, which I did not want (they have to be a certain size to avoid choking hazards, no way around it). 2) I would also have lost the epaulets on the shoulders. If I would have produced a SG jacket with wide arm streamers and no shoulder epaulets I would have heard the feedback as well I am sure. Sounds like he went with the option that would have received less blow back for visual accuracy. This thread is already five pages long, and if it had inaccuracies while being soft, it would have been double that.
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Post by Bandalero on May 6, 2016 10:18:27 GMT -5
look the rubber jacket was a poor decision choice - much like Bill wanting a yellow-strap winged-eagle belt with Legends Warrior. We all wanted a yellow-strapped I-C belt instead but he thought it was a cute idea.
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Post by SteveHulk on May 6, 2016 11:02:15 GMT -5
My only gripe is that it just feels like this should have been a normal Flashback figure. I don't care either way since I'll wait for an Amazon sale. Yeah, that was my thinking too - for a standard Flashback, this figure would be pretty great. I suppose (as @bootxparty said), the new/unique molds and paint apps pushed the budget up though... I do think it looks really nice MIB - and it's pretty easy to add the WHC title too, to make it look even better.
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Post by champofakind on May 6, 2016 11:44:53 GMT -5
Huh? Other than the jacket and new head this figure is incredibly bland reuse parts. Look at elite 42 Woods and Neville in comparison both superior figures that have more paint deco. And better accessorizes. And we will be seeing that surfer sting head on a future basic already.
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Post by PJ on May 6, 2016 11:53:09 GMT -5
Wait people are complaining about Sting's torso being to big, but are OK with the E42 Neville having the Savage torso? Neville's torso shouldn't be larger than Orton who uses the Ziggler torso. Neville should have the Orton/Ziggler torso as well just like his basic does.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 11:57:27 GMT -5
Even if the tassels were to come out too big, we'd have complainers comparing pictures how it's inaccurate. I do agree it's not DM worthy but I don't care. I'm not buying it lol
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Post by champofakind on May 6, 2016 12:00:08 GMT -5
Nevilles a thick, ripped dude he has an eight pack on his back. If anything they should make a new sculpt for him..but won't happen. He kinda has that Benoit torso going on.
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Post by doubled on May 6, 2016 12:01:02 GMT -5
I'm cropping this Sting in with snarky smirk Sid and DDP. Bought it, thinking it would look better in person. I was wrong. Selling Sting and old man Jericho on evil.
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Post by PJ on May 6, 2016 12:09:15 GMT -5
I wish Bill would have just gone with the soft goods jacket. SO what that the tassels would have been unrealistically thick? As it is with the rubber jacket, the tassels are all together and unmovable, and the jacket restricts any type of arm movement at all.....so really, which one is worse and more unrealistic? I'll take tassels that are a little too thick over a jacket that is essentially a BODY CAST. No shoulder epaulets and streamer sized tassels would have totally pissed me off. The jacket fits the figure perfectly and has all the details the jacket had something they wouldn't have been able to do on a soft goods jacket. It's more important that it looks great on my shelf than it is to have mobility. And the arms are positioned down far enough to not look awkward.
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