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Post by scotty7280 on Oct 27, 2016 5:12:13 GMT -5
My local Smyths in Bromborough, Wirral, is always extremely well stocked, just like the picture posted in this thread. However, the stock rotates quite a lot, with more popular figures selling quickly. There are still shelf warmers, though, like Sid and Umaga. In general, they seem to sell well. For the first 5 years those flashbacks never would have hung around at all. Ah, cheers! I went in to panic mode there because my son, Harry, loves the Elite line.
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Post by scotty7280 on Oct 27, 2016 5:20:15 GMT -5
My local Smyths in Bromborough, Wirral, is always extremely well stocked, just like the picture posted in this thread. However, the stock rotates quite a lot, with more popular figures selling quickly. There are still shelf warmers, though, like Sid and Umaga. In general, they seem to sell well. For the first 5 years those flashbacks never would have hung around at all. I think that there might be a few too many legends per set these days. If there was one per set, previously unreleased "first time in line" sort of thing, they'd possibly sell a lot better. For the older generation of fan, like myself, seeing a Tugboat figure is more than welcome. For a nine year old kid, though, who would probably know him as Typhoon, if he knew him at all, it's probably a figure he could miss and it becomes a shelf warmer. They'd probably go for a repainted Rollins, Cena, Ambrose or Reigns before going towards a legend figure. I think if they did two series of six each year, one at the beginning, one towards the end, like the one that's recently been released, more people would buy them.
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Post by maske2g on Oct 27, 2016 5:30:23 GMT -5
For the first 5 years those flashbacks never would have hung around at all. I think that there might be a few too many legends per set these days. If there was one per set, previously unreleased "first time in line" sort of thing, they'd possibly sell a lot better. For the older generation of fan, like myself, seeing a Tugboat figure is more than welcome. For a nine year old kid, though, who would probably know him as Typhoon, if he knew him at all, it's probably a figure he could miss and it becomes a shelf warmer. They'd probably go for a repainted Rollins, Cena, Ambrose or Reigns before going towards a legend figure. I think if they did two series of six each year, one at the beginning, one towards the end, like the one that's recently been released, more people would buy them. I broadly agree with your first point but this is why the case from Mattel has a breakdown of different quantities.
I believe this case was
2x Randy Savage 2x Big E 1x Sasha Banks 1x Braun Strowman 1x Sin Cara 1x Tugboat
The Elite series have been about 6.5 sets per year since the start, it was never a problem, until we had all the extra sets that we currently have.
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Post by scotty7280 on Oct 27, 2016 7:39:12 GMT -5
I think that there might be a few too many legends per set these days. If there was one per set, previously unreleased "first time in line" sort of thing, they'd possibly sell a lot better. For the older generation of fan, like myself, seeing a Tugboat figure is more than welcome. For a nine year old kid, though, who would probably know him as Typhoon, if he knew him at all, it's probably a figure he could miss and it becomes a shelf warmer. They'd probably go for a repainted Rollins, Cena, Ambrose or Reigns before going towards a legend figure. I think if they did two series of six each year, one at the beginning, one towards the end, like the one that's recently been released, more people would buy them. I broadly agree with your first point but this is why the case from Mattel has a breakdown of different quantities.
I believe this case was
2x Randy Savage 2x Big E 1x Sasha Banks 1x Braun Strowman 1x Sin Cara 1x Tugboat
The Elite series have been about 6.5 sets per year since the start, it was never a problem, until we had all the extra sets that we currently have.
Yeah, I agree that the extra sets will have a negative effect on sales of regular figures. I'm not sure why there's a need for a zombie or a mutant line, it seems extremely needless and I certainly wouldn't buy any for Harry because they're a waste of money, in my opinion. That said, there's clearly a market for them and many will buy them but they'll be bought at the expense of other figures. I don't imagine that many people will have enough spare money to buy every figure, so there has to be a compromise some where down the line.
I think that, should we see an end to some of these sets, we'd then see a rise in the sales of basics and Elites. that said, I've never noticed too many figures hanging around for extended periods in my local Smyths.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Oct 27, 2016 7:40:37 GMT -5
I think it's a combination of things.
1) Wrestling is not as popular as it used to be. 2) Mattel figures are skyrocketing in price. 3) Quality control is getting real bad (bad paint apps, defective/broken parts) 4) Character repetition/case breakdowns 5) Distribution - my Target hasn't gotten any new Elites since Elite 36, for example.
Add all of these things up, and it's not good for business. Amazon and RSC (if you have the money) are really the only ways to collect at this point, besides store exclusives where you are forced to go to a specific place (TRU - Network Spotlight, Walmart - TNF, Target - HOF).
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Post by SteveHulk on Oct 27, 2016 8:08:08 GMT -5
Maybe Smyths isn't the best way of judging how well/poorly the line is doing... I mean, they have new figures in all the time and constantly have an over-flow of stock or have to reduce certain figures. Not to mention, Flashbacks and female figures - which seem to sell really well in the US - always tend to warm the shelves here.
FWIW, I remember chatting to the manager at Smyths (Longton) about 18 months ago - and he said that the WWE line was their best seller. I don't know if this is still the case (especially since the new Star Wars lines have been released), but I doubt if they'd keep ordering a ton of WWE figures all the time if they didn't sell well.
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Post by ClassicFan2 on Oct 27, 2016 8:19:50 GMT -5
dont worry guys. post pics of shelves on dec 26th and see what they look like!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 13:09:58 GMT -5
dont worry guys. post pics of shelves on dec 26th and see what they look like! You'll have to remind me but I will
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 13:23:55 GMT -5
I don't know about the figures losing popularity but this forum sure has, it seems like the people who contribute w/ pics or autograph signings get ignored or made fun of and the arrogant trolls who always try to be funny are runnin' wild brother!
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Post by Purple Reigns on Oct 27, 2016 14:06:59 GMT -5
I work at a WalMart as a wireless specialist, I wall around mostly trying to sell people phone and phone plans--every day I check the WWE toy section and it varies. A few days ago they had nothing but Daniel Bryan's, a few Takers, and three zombies--today though, they're packed to the brim. I know this because they didn't have the elite Rollins a day ago. imgur.com/a/yytd6
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Post by Purple Reigns on Oct 27, 2016 14:07:56 GMT -5
i said it a few weeks back.. people have stopped buying retail and WWE figs in general. the price and the outdated attires is what i can point my finger to. Also add QC in there. But also i think WWE isnt as popular now either. Arent they still losing ratings each week? i havent checked in a few weeks, but i can remeber when people were buying alot of figs but ive never seen so many people "quitting" collecting on here than i have over the last 2 years. Some peoples stores are different but i know out of 3 wallys and 2 targets and 1 TRU and 1 Kmart , around me, nothing moves. unlike it used to be. They're losing ratings because of football season, just like they do every year and people still don't get it.
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Post by hbkrules on Oct 27, 2016 14:37:02 GMT -5
Simply put, the figures have gotten too expensive.
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Post by mrhoss on Oct 27, 2016 15:25:36 GMT -5
i said it a few weeks back.. people have stopped buying retail and WWE figs in general. the price and the outdated attires is what i can point my finger to. Also add QC in there. But also i think WWE isnt as popular now either. Arent they still losing ratings each week? i havent checked in a few weeks, but i can remeber when people were buying alot of figs but ive never seen so many people "quitting" collecting on here than i have over the last 2 years. Some peoples stores are different but i know out of 3 wallys and 2 targets and 1 TRU and 1 Kmart , around me, nothing moves. unlike it used to be. They're losing ratings because of football season, just like they do every year and people still don't get it. NFL ratings are also down about 11%.
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Post by legendsguy on Oct 27, 2016 15:30:39 GMT -5
i said it a few weeks back.. people have stopped buying retail and WWE figs in general. the price and the outdated attires is what i can point my finger to. Also add QC in there. But also i think WWE isnt as popular now either. Arent they still losing ratings each week? i havent checked in a few weeks, but i can remeber when people were buying alot of figs but ive never seen so many people "quitting" collecting on here than i have over the last 2 years. Some peoples stores are different but i know out of 3 wallys and 2 targets and 1 TRU and 1 Kmart , around me, nothing moves. unlike it used to be. Raw is losing but I think Smackdown is gaining, literally exactly like the first draft i had to rub this is a little bit..LOL... www.f4wonline.com/wwe-news/smackdown-does-lowest-ratings-brand-split-223486?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=wwe
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Post by legendsguy on Oct 27, 2016 15:33:36 GMT -5
i said it a few weeks back.. people have stopped buying retail and WWE figs in general. the price and the outdated attires is what i can point my finger to. Also add QC in there. But also i think WWE isnt as popular now either. Arent they still losing ratings each week? i havent checked in a few weeks, but i can remeber when people were buying alot of figs but ive never seen so many people "quitting" collecting on here than i have over the last 2 years. Some peoples stores are different but i know out of 3 wallys and 2 targets and 1 TRU and 1 Kmart , around me, nothing moves. unlike it used to be. They're losing ratings because of football season, just like they do every year and people still don't get it. football has nothing to do with it.. maybe you should check ur facts before u start quoting people.
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Post by cableV on Oct 27, 2016 17:12:10 GMT -5
From today's 3rd Quarter Earnings report.
Keep in mind that "toy products" includes more than just Mattel figures. It is possible(but unlikely) that Mattel sales went up, but everything else(Funko, RC cars, die-cast, ect.) was down so much that it hurt the overall number. Another unknown is what percentage of that 22% decline is Toy Products.
Revenues from Consumer Products decreased 4% to $21.6 million as higher online sales of merchandise at the Company’s e-commerce sites were more than offset by a reduction in licensing revenue. Licensing revenues decreased 22% to $9.0 million primarily due to a lower effective royalty rate for our franchise video game, WWE 2K16, and lower sales of our toy products. (As a reminder, the lower effective royalty rate derived from an increasing rate structure over the 2015 year as compared to a flat rate structure in 2016. For the full year, the Company expects the rate for 2016 will be comparable to the average rate for 2015.)
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Post by jfinnomore on Oct 27, 2016 17:48:51 GMT -5
They're losing ratings because of football season, just like they do every year and people still don't get it. football has nothing to do with it.. maybe you should check ur facts before u start quoting people. "According to Dave Meltzer at the Wrestling Observer, the total viewers for the episode was 2.68 million, just beating out the all-time low of 2.62 million set on July 4 of this year. As Meltzer put it, “Everyone knew that the first week of football season was going to take a bit out of the Raw ratings, but even in a worst case scenario, I don’t think anyone expected this.” Football does have something to do with it but not the only factor.
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Post by legendsguy on Oct 27, 2016 18:47:42 GMT -5
football has nothing to do with it.. maybe you should check ur facts before u start quoting people. "According to Dave Meltzer at the Wrestling Observer, the total viewers for the episode was 2.68 million, just beating out the all-time low of 2.62 million set on July 4 of this year. As Meltzer put it, “Everyone knew that the first week of football season was going to take a bit out of the Raw ratings, but even in a worst case scenario, I don’t think anyone expected this.” Football does have something to do with it but not the only factor. i have no clue what show your going off of ,if its the 1st week of football then you do know RAW was losing ratings prior to football season? im not disputing some monday night games contribute to ratings loss but to blame it on one program is complete bs. so whats the reason for smackdown losing ratings then? no football on tuesdays..lol.
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Post by The Outsider on Oct 27, 2016 19:59:29 GMT -5
Could the dip in ratings have ANYTHING to do with Game 1 of the Cleveland/Chicago World series?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2016 21:27:33 GMT -5
19.99 isnt expensive. Theyve hovered at that price for years.
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