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Post by brick on Jan 10, 2017 15:53:06 GMT -5
THAT. Right ing there. /thread Phew. Thank god.
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Post by brick on Jan 10, 2017 16:29:02 GMT -5
Nah, I thought the thread was a good read until it devolved into you talking down to anyone who disagreed with your theories. You had people such as PJ who were collecting when the line started sharing first-hand stories about distribution with the Legends series, but it clashed with your theories about lineups, so you still dismissed the line's failure as being caused by 5 "duds" filling out the first series. I appreciate the well-spoken posts you started out with in the thread, but you got way too flustered as the thread went on to the point where I wondered what your blood pressure was while typing out those posts. PJ is the biggest Mattel apologist on Earth. The Legends line did have 5 duds. All the Legends TT were underwhelming and bad choices. Combine that with obscure attire = the biggest reason Legends failed. Not flustered at all. The aggregation of fanboyism, stupidity, and desperate attempts to be funny from people like you serves as great entertaininment. You're probably one of those people on ESPN who comments on Lebron James articles saying "UGGGGH WHY DO WE KEEP HEARING ABOUT LEBRON". Then just don't click it genius. Stay hipster buddy! Well at least you didn't make any sweeping generalizations about me.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 16:45:41 GMT -5
So many of you bitching about these things warming are the same ones who wanted them made in the first place. Who the requested Wild Samoans, NOD Rock/Farooq, a Shield rerelease, etc. I guarantee if Mattel had come out and said "Hey guys, we are going to give Elite 2 packs another opportunity with two different lines and a special 3 pack elite line and we're looking for suggestions," no one would have requested any of those. And even if they actually wanted any of those figures, it still wouldn't be requested for the INAUGURAL wave, which btw is the whole goddamn point of the thread. Weak starts. It's plagued several lines now, some of which have already been cancelled. So many off-tangent replies here. Half the responses in this thread have been harping on the failed Legends line, which was only brought up briefly in my original post as a reference point. I swear the attention span of the average WFer can be measured in nanoseconds. Sorry every poster on here wont reply in an mla formatted essay. But everything you're spouting off about is based on your opinion. You know nothing of how well a figure sells or if a line is a flop, unless bill straight up says it. It can be said about alot of posts on this board, but its the john cena effect. He has been said to be the best seller, but he warns everywhere. You cant call a line a failure because its warming in your area or any area. The workers under the wwe umbrella at mattel, know how to do their jobs. That why they have them and a random poster on here, such as youraelf...don't. Mdt gets word who he can and should make. That can be based on current storylines or specific lines. I agree the samoans are not the best choice, but they look cool as hell and im sure kid will buy them based on that. Keep patting yourself on the back though. You're doing a great job at it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 17:00:02 GMT -5
Who the requested Wild Samoans, NOD Rock/Farooq, a Shield rerelease, etc. I guarantee if Mattel had come out and said "Hey guys, we are going to give Elite 2 packs another opportunity with two different lines and a special 3 pack elite line and we're looking for suggestions," no one would have requested any of those. And even if they actually wanted any of those figures, it still wouldn't be requested for the INAUGURAL wave, which btw is the whole goddamn point of the thread. Weak starts. It's plagued several lines now, some of which have already been cancelled. So many off-tangent replies here. Half the responses in this thread have been harping on the failed Legends line, which was only brought up briefly in my original post as a reference point. I swear the attention span of the average WFer can be measured in nanoseconds. Sorry every poster on here wont reply in an mla formatted essay. But everything you're spouting off about is based on your opinion. You know nothing of how well a figure sells or if a line is a flop, unless bill straight up says it. It can be said about alot of posts on this board, but its the john cena effect. He has been said to be the best seller, but he warns everywhere. You cant call a line a failure because its warming in your area or any area. The workers under the wwe umbrella at mattel, know how to do their jobs. That why they have them and a random poster on here, such as youraelf...don't. Mdt gets word who he can and should make. That can be based on current storylines or specific lines. I agree the samoans are not the best choice, but they look cool as hell and im sure kid will buy them based on that. Keep patting yourself on the back though. You're doing a great job at it. If a line gets cancelled prematurely, what can you call that besides failure? This thread is solely focused on starting multipack elite lines strongly. That is something Mattel has failed with more than once. And those lines got prematurely cancelled. I'm worried it may happen again with the TNF 3 packs and HOF Elite Tag teams. That is all the discussion was supposed to be about. These new lines and the future after it. I can't help it if everyone started eating member berries about the Legends line. And yes I'm sure "a kid" will be buy the Samoans. But will there be enough to make their inclusion in the inaugural 2 pack HOF line (a format that Mattel straight botched the first two attempts)? I seriously doubt it. But I'd be happy to be wrong. The line has great potential if it survives.
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Post by doubled on Jan 10, 2017 17:06:53 GMT -5
I think in an interview, Bill said the horsemen 4 pack sold very well. I thought it was a good choice for a 4 pack.
NoD would not have been my choice to kick off a line but what do I know? They may have sold great.
Meanwhile, as a cherry picker, I still like the 1 packs.
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Post by Mr Ezekiel Jackson If Ya Nasty on Jan 10, 2017 17:24:22 GMT -5
I'm not getting the anger and vitrol over this topic. I just collect figures and toss some requests in the suggestion box. Too busy living life than sweating about plastic little people.
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Post by thelostweekend on Jan 10, 2017 17:34:37 GMT -5
I'm basing this on nothing but observations and my gut, but I just don't think there's nearly the market for multi-pack Elite sets compared to the individual releases. A handful of wrestlers anchoring a multi-pack set would move units better than sets that didn't include them, but I don't know if you could say it would be a huge contrast.
For whatever reason, it seems like a lot of people balk at the buy-in price for multi-figure releases. People will drop $17-$20 for a single Elite all day, but ask them to pay $35-$40 for a two-pack or even $50 for a three- or four-pack and you see the market of actual buyers shrink. I'm sure a set that included Hulk Hogan would sell a bit better, but I'd be surprised if in the end, this would break the pattern of new figures getting bought up quickly and then warming a bit upon further restocks.
There are obviously some glaring omissions from the Mattel roster, but after six years, we've finally gotten to a good place where most of the big names are accounted for in some fashion. In that sense, I welcome Mattel rolling out some of the lesser stars and gimmicks of previous eras. I don't really care to own a dozen different figures of the same wrestler; even my favorites, so if I'm being honest, a figure such as Tugboat appeals to me way more at this time than another Ultimate Warrior figure. Heck, the unreleased Elite Scott Hall in street clothes is so similar to the Battle Pack figure that I got more excited to see the Wild Samoans two-pack hitting stores than I did seeing Hall ended up for sale by Chinese thieves on another site.
I know that's not the same way a lot of people view it, but that's where I'm at with my own collecting outlook.
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Post by wherespup on Jan 10, 2017 17:55:30 GMT -5
I'm just glad we're seeing a pickup on new releases
If you don't like um don't buy um
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Post by SteveHulk on Jan 10, 2017 22:23:55 GMT -5
So many off-tangent replies here. Half the responses in this thread have been harping on the failed Legends line, which was only brought up briefly in my original post as a reference point. I swear the attention span of the average WFer can be measured in nanoseconds. ...it's almost as if you'd actually asked for people's thoughts on Mattel's opening line-ups and failure of certain lines.... Crazy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2017 22:31:39 GMT -5
So many off-tangent replies here. Half the responses in this thread have been harping on the failed Legends line, which was only brought up briefly in my original post as a reference point. I swear the attention span of the average WFer can be measured in nanoseconds. ...it's almost as if you'd actually asked for people's thoughts on Mattel's opening line-ups and failure of certain lines.... Crazy. More than half the responses in this thread have been harping on the Legends line. I stated from the very beginning that while it was a failure, it was a forgivable failure as it was the first go round and Mattel admitted they should have done it differently. My focus is on the opening lineups of multipack elite lines AFTERWARDS including the ones that have failed and have already started off weak again (HOF Samoans). Any more desperate attempts at sarcasm to get likes?
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Post by SteveHulk on Jan 11, 2017 1:35:31 GMT -5
For whatever reason, it seems like a lot of people balk at the buy-in price for multi-figure releases. People will drop $17-$20 for a single Elite all day, but ask them to pay $35-$40 for a two-pack or even $50 for a three- or four-pack and you see the market of actual buyers shrink. I'm sure a set that included Hulk Hogan would sell a bit better, but I'd be surprised if in the end, this would break the pattern of new figures getting bought up quickly and then warming a bit upon further restocks. This might indeed be the case... I noticed recently how many people loved the BATB and/or Shield 3-packs - but didn't want to pay $50 for them (or thought they were too expensive). Even though the Target sets may have been cheaper (...I'm not actually sure!), $16.65ish for an Elite seems a fair price.. especially when it's for a new Sting and Luger. It was a similar thing with the Heenan Family set and the recent WCW ring w/Dusty... people were like "that looks great!" and "yes - another Dusty!" etc. - followed by "I'll wait until it's discounted/on offer...". So retailers suddenly have too many sets on the shelves and are having to discount them... it's hardly showing them that we want similar product(s). . More than half the responses in this thread have been harping on the Legends line. I stated from the very beginning that while it was a failure, it was a forgivable failure as it was the first go round and Mattel admitted they should have done it differently. My focus is on the opening lineups of multipack elite lines AFTERWARDS including the ones that have failed and have already started off weak again (HOF Samoans). Any more desperate attempts at sarcasm to get likes? Relax buddy. I just don't understand why you're getting all worked up, because people dare to discuss the opening Legends line-up and why the the line failed... it's very much to do with the overall subject - and you yourself have been talking about it a fair bit too(!). That's all.
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