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Post by juicewinslow on Nov 5, 2010 1:58:24 GMT -5
If you listen to the entire interview, he also talks about good interactions with fans. Nice editing though.
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Post by rudos on Nov 5, 2010 2:35:21 GMT -5
If you listen to the entire interview, he also talks about good interactions with fans. Nice editing though. Seems like those are few and far between for him. Seriously, the guy has a problem with people tapping him on the shoulder because it makes him feel like a farm animal! Pathetic. IMO "straightedge means better than you" sums up his attitude towards fans perfectly.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Nov 5, 2010 2:59:33 GMT -5
If you listen to the entire interview, he also talks about good interactions with fans. Nice editing though. Seems like those are few and far between for him. Seriously, the guy has a problem with people tapping him on the shoulder because it makes him feel like a farm animal! Pathetic. IMO "straightedge means better than you" sums up his attitude towards fans perfectly. Seems to me like he just wants to be left alone. He's a human being and therefore entitled to privacy when he wants it. He's not saying don't approach him ever but he's saying there's times and places you just should leave him alone. If I followed you around tapping you on the shoulder every few hours asking you to sign something would you not find it annoying?
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Post by slappy on Nov 5, 2010 3:01:59 GMT -5
This is actually from an interview he did with Colt Cabana, as stated in the info on youtube. The full interview, along with others can be found here: tsmradio.com/coltcabana/page/2/On a slightly unrelated note, highly recommend the show. Sorta sucks that this guy ripped this from Colt's site. That was greatness. lmao at saying when they were younger that Ricky Rice was amazing and now that they are wrestlers and look back at him and basically see how awful he truly was. He should try being Lanny Poffo more, that would be great to see.
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Post by rudos on Nov 5, 2010 3:07:40 GMT -5
Seems like those are few and far between for him. Seriously, the guy has a problem with people tapping him on the shoulder because it makes him feel like a farm animal! Pathetic. IMO "straightedge means better than you" sums up his attitude towards fans perfectly. Seems to me like he just wants to be left alone. He's a human being and therefore entitled to privacy when he wants it. He's not saying don't approach him ever but he's saying there's times and places you just should leave him alone. If I followed you around tapping you on the shoulder every few hours asking you to sign something would you not find it annoying? Oh the trappings of fame
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Post by slappy on Nov 5, 2010 3:11:08 GMT -5
Seems to me like he just wants to be left alone. He's a human being and therefore entitled to privacy when he wants it. He's not saying don't approach him ever but he's saying there's times and places you just should leave him alone. If I followed you around tapping you on the shoulder every few hours asking you to sign something would you not find it annoying? Oh the trappings of fame They aren't there to be bothered by you. They do their job and after that, they don't have to do crap. If you listen to the interview, he's had someone pull the earphones out of his ears. That is just so rude and disrespectful.
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Post by rudos on Nov 5, 2010 3:27:08 GMT -5
They aren't there to be bothered by you. They do their job and after that, they don't have to do ****. If you listen to the interview, he's had someone pull the earphones out of his ears. That is just so rude and disrespectful. Seriously, what do you do when you are trying to get someone's attention and they are utterly ignoring you? I listened to the entire interview, and I completely understand that he wants respect, but he needs to show respect to others who are less fortunate than himself. There is a polite, professional if you will, way of going about things right off the bat that is respectful and acknowledges the other person as a fellow human being rather than simply ignoring and telling them to f*%k off or whatnot when they start to annoy you. As long as he is a celebrity, people are going to do crazy things. Fact. All I'm saying is that he could deal with it better.
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Post by slappy on Nov 5, 2010 3:35:40 GMT -5
You don't have to pull the earphones out of his ears.
You'd like to think someone would take the hint when you keep saying "Excuse me" and the person doesn't respond to you.
If I want someone's attention, I'll say their name, if they don't respond after 2 or 3 time of me saying it, I know they want to be left alone so I just go on.
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Post by WWF on Nov 5, 2010 3:36:59 GMT -5
He's right, There is a time & place for autographs. Problem is some people don't see it that way. I strongly agree with that Statement. When you pay for a ticket to see a WWE wrestling event your are paying to see them at that time and place. However if you run around trying to find them while they are trying to eat, go to the bathroom etc..you are going to run into trouble. I mean if I run into someone the day of a show I might say "Hi Big fan of yours good luck tonight" and go on my way unless they start talking to me more. Did that with Randy Orton and he offered to take a picture with me and shake my hand. I want to one day continue to wrestle and maybe get big someday and I could see being upset at a fan who bothers me during my few hours of down time. I wouldn't show it directly by any means and take it out on them but I would prefer to keep things short and sweet when I am out and not at a WWE event.
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Post by rudos on Nov 5, 2010 3:49:49 GMT -5
You don't have to pull the earphones out of his ears. You'd like to think someone would take the hint when you keep saying "Excuse me" and the person doesn't respond to you. If I want someone's attention, I'll say their name, if they don't respond after 2 or 3 time of me saying it, I know they want to be left alone so I just go on. I agree, it is unnecessary, but I question how it got to the point where someone is so desperate that they are willing to pull the earphones out of his ears. How hard is it to say no in the first place? Must have been a damn good song. Then again, if I saw a celebrity knowing that I would probably never ever see them again - a once in a lifetime chance - I would probably do everything in my power to get an autograph/photo as well, and I think most people on here would do the same. I see the issue with scalpers, but how does he know who is who?
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Post by Gazza on Nov 5, 2010 5:00:52 GMT -5
At end of the day working in the WWE is a job. A job that requires allot of work and traveling. So the times Punk gets to himself or any wrestler for that matter, they should be allowed to have that time. There is a time and a place for getting autographs and pictures with any wrestler, Sadly some people don't realize that and seem to think the wrestlers owe it to them to give them the auto.
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Post by rudos on Nov 5, 2010 5:12:51 GMT -5
At end of the day working in the WWE is a job. A job that requires allot of work and traveling. So the times Punk gets to himself or any wrestler for that matter, they should be allowed to have that time. There is a time and a place for getting autographs and pictures with any wrestler, Sadly some people don't realize that and seem to think the wrestlers owe it to them to give them the auto. Meh, I would consider it more of a lifestyle than a job per se. With that ridiculous schedule, WWE literally own their employees' every waking moment, which in turn, they are gratuitously paid for. But I'm clearly in the minority on here who can actually differentiate between the wrestler who they idolize and the person who acts like a jerk, so I'm just going to leave it at that for now.
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Post by muccguy88 on Nov 5, 2010 7:46:35 GMT -5
He's right, There is a time & place for autographs. Problem is some people don't see it that way. I strongly agree with that Statement. When you pay for a ticket to see a WWE wrestling event your are paying to see them at that time and place. However if you run around trying to find them while they are trying to eat, go to the bathroom etc..you are going to run into trouble. I mean if I run into someone the day of a show I might say "Hi Big fan of yours good luck tonight" and go on my way unless they start talking to me more. Did that with Randy Orton and he offered to take a picture with me and shake my hand. I want to one day continue to wrestle and maybe get big someday and I could see being upset at a fan who bothers me during my few hours of down time. I wouldn't show it directly by any means and take it out on them but I would prefer to keep things short and sweet when I am out and not at a WWE event. funny how much randy has matured over the years. i remember hearing about an incident with him at a bar a few years ago after a show. apparently a bunch of wrestlers were at a bar after a show and as they were all going upstairs randy noticed a fan snapping pics of him. he apparently went over and broke the fan's camera. when the fan demanded money for the camera orton pulled a $100 bill out of his pocket. but before giving it to the fan he autographed it and the ended up like framing it or something. this story could have been totally made up of course but u dont hear stuff like that about orton anymore. also i noticed people talking about how to pick out scalpers. i remember hearing one time that a lot of agents or publicists tell their celebrity clients to watch out for certain color markers because apparently autographs sell for more of they r in blue sharpie or something crazy like that. as far as the earphones go. unless someone is looking around at people or engages u in conversation it should probably be assumed that anyone with earphones on probably wants to be left alone. of course this is from business perspectives. they usually say that someone with earphones or on their cell phone texting or doing watever is trying to shut themselves out from everyone else. especially if i had no idea who u were id hate if someone grabbed my earphones out of my ear. i for one dont like strange people invading my personal space. seems like punk ignores so that he doesnt have to say no. instead of making in obvious he doesnt want to sign an autograph he is trying to make it seem like he doesnt notice u asking (thats wat it seems to me)
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Post by tnafan17: The Total Package on Nov 5, 2010 8:08:35 GMT -5
I mean its kind of hard not to ask for an autograph when you see someone out in public like that that is famous. I mean the guy blew up and is extremely popular with the IWC & fans in general. I agree there is a time and a place but I would usually just say hey I'm a huge fan do you mind signing this for me? I think a simple yes or no would do the trick and I'd more than likely ask for a picture with him. I'm not saying I would be pushing and shoving people, but I mean if it was your one chance to meet him knowning you would probably never see them again, I can't say I'd pass up the chance to at least try. But like CM said I would definitely be polite in asking and definitely thank him.
I just feel like a lot of these guys get a little bit of fame and it goes to their head. It's like one day they're in the indies signing anything and everything thanking you and the next when they get that little bit of stardom, they could care less about talking to the fans cause they feel as if they're to good.
Don't get me wrong, completely understand the time and a place argument. That is so true, I'm not the type to follow are wrestler. But the same principle, I think that if I were in his shoes, I'd be glad to sign for people. I know it gets old, but most (and remember I said most) of these guys are the ones who are putting money in my pocket that are going to the shows to see me (not including scalpers in this argument lol). The least I could do was take a few minutes out of my day and sign something for them and maybe take a picture, but yes there is definitely a time and a place for this.
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Post by deskjet on Nov 5, 2010 9:42:57 GMT -5
Dont you have an ebay account and sell signed autographs?!?!?! You do! I have seen you sell a Jeff Hardy autograph and WWE events ring tickets. So how are you any different from the guys he is talking about? You ebay and you sell autographs. Yes I have an ebay account and yes I sell SOME signed autos. Did I sell a Jeff Hardy auto? Yes I did. I had a WWE IC Title signed by Jeff AT A PAID SIGNING! No wrestler gives a damn if you sell something you got at a paid signing. Its when you ask them for a freebie and they extend that gift, then you sell it. I also have a few TNA autos up for sale from the last round of house shows I was at. Why? Because I PAID FOR THEM! And look at the prices. $10 for a signed TNA 8X10 of Jeff Jarrett? Ummm....the unsigned promo cost $5. And selling WWE tickets? So what? WTF does that have to do with this topic? I scalp tickets. I scalp action figures. I'll scalp just about anything. But I dont scalp my autos. Its not my thing. I'm appreciative when someone gives me one for free. And they arent worth much anyway. But how do we or even CM know who the ebayers are and aren;t. That I know of, most ebayers don't post a picture of themselves. Maybe he just think that's what they are doing becasue the sme people show up anywhere in any given radius of cities. Aren't you in essence then saying that this is you? Whether your approach is amicable or not is irrelevant. It's what you do. Whether I go to a friendly doctor or a mean doctor, he's still a doctor. And I think its a bit presumptious to define to us what a scalper is. There's no clear cut definition. Because you feel the critieria does not align with you does not necessarily dismiss you from being one. It's a matter of perception, and one can paint that perception in any way they choose in order to be seen in a different light. Are we to believe that you don't scalp these autos because you perceive them as a gift, even though you're seen taking photos with the wrestlers, you have an ebay account in which you sell the merchandise, you have a group of people that you hang with? Criteria by which you yourself have identified a scalper. And then you admittedly and quite boldly said you were a sclaper to other items. Are we to assume that those tendecies do not exist when it comes to autographs? Are we to assume that those tendencies do not exist when you uphold them as "wants" and/or "needs"? This is not an attack on you but rather an attempt to understand and accept why myself or anyone else should perceive you as anything other then what you say you are not. I know you enjoy your hobby and I'm glad you do. I just have a hard time believing that you are in the minority as someone who displays the "right method" of obtaining autographs. I know you try to be friendly and appreciative, but that alone does not overshadow what you do, imo. You may not be a "scalper" in the terms of what the genral public thinks as a scalper, but would you deny that you demonstrate many of the characteristics mentioned by CM punk in this video? If you can identify with it then I think it's only right to say that you are part what's being frowned on. If you can't identify it then what makes you different? I'm just trying to see where you're coming from.
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Post by Smash on Nov 5, 2010 9:58:55 GMT -5
Dont you have an ebay account and sell signed autographs?!?!?! You do! I have seen you sell a Jeff Hardy autograph and WWE events ring tickets. So how are you any different from the guys he is talking about? You ebay and you sell autographs. Yes I have an ebay account and yes I sell SOME signed autos. Did I sell a Jeff Hardy auto? Yes I did. I had a WWE IC Title signed by Jeff AT A PAID SIGNING! No wrestler gives a damn if you sell something you got at a paid signing. Its when you ask them for a freebie and they extend that gift, then you sell it. I also have a few TNA autos up for sale from the last round of house shows I was at. Why? Because I PAID FOR THEM! And look at the prices. $10 for a signed TNA 8X10 of Jeff Jarrett? Ummm....the unsigned promo cost $5. And selling WWE tickets? So what? WTF does that have to do with this topic? I scalp tickets. I scalp action figures. I'll scalp just about anything. But I dont scalp my autos. Its not my thing. I'm appreciative when someone gives me one for free. And they arent worth much anyway. But how do we or even CM know who the ebayers are and aren;t. That I know of, most ebayers don't post a picture of themselves. Maybe he just think that's what they are doing becasue the sme people show up anywhere in any given radius of cities. Unless you travel in certain circles, you really cant tell. Some of the scalpers do post their pics up and they are in them. Most do not. I know they are scalpers b/c they clearly state it and are proud of it. I'll say it again. They have every right to do as they please. For me personally, I dont do it and wont help them either. I dont agree with it. But to each their own. The only thing that upsets me is how they upset the wrestlers. Most scalpers are relentless, unappreciative and travel in packs. Tips on spotting one the next time you are at a hotel or airport. 8X10s. If they are have stacks of 8x10s and are trying to get the exact same 8x10 signed more than once.......good chance they are a scalper. Scalpers dont get programs, chairs, posters, etc. generally signed. They are usually getting figures or 8X10s. They travel in packs. Most scalpers come with a team of 3-4 additional people in order to get as many as they can. If you see 3-4 people with the same 8X10 and they are hanging together....good chance they are a scalper. Also look for someone getting something signed and then a flash going off, as the wrestler is signing it. Its VERY important they have someone taking a photo for them so they can get picture proof of the item being hand signed. And last scalpers are generally the guys shoving their way to the wrestler, jumping in front of others, etc. They are relentless. They must ensure they get their things signed and consider a missed auto as a missing dollar.[/quote] Sorry, I have a hard time believing that if you tell Jeff you plan to throw his autograph up on eBay the minute you get home he's gonna high-five you and say, "Yeah bro, go for it!"
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Nov 5, 2010 11:09:05 GMT -5
I wholly agree and I applaud Punk for saying this. Wrestlers, and celebrities in general, have the right to privacy and down time. You, as a fan, are entitled to the show they give you but when that is over, they don't owe you more time out of their lives. There is no excuse for fans being intrusive and rude for autographs. Punk is just giving them a dose of their own medicine.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Nov 5, 2010 12:13:57 GMT -5
I agree with him. If I was someone famous and someone wanted an autograph, I'd personalize it, because I'd like to think people are less likely to buy an autograph to John when their name is Steve. Doesnt help. Another reason 8X10s are used b/c personalizations CAN BE REMOVED. Sucks, but its true. I have seen it. And Deskjet, I am not gonna quote you b/c you wrote everything in one giant run on sentence/paragraph. We know who the scalpers are. They have no issue with stating it. Calling me a scalper b/c I sold a few autographs on ebay THAT I PAID FOR based on my criteria I listed makes ZERO sense. Scalpers DONT PAY for autos and if they do, they are selling them for big bucks. C'mon man. You know the difference between a scalper and not a scalper. You're just trying to cause a fight now. In addition, if I paid for Jeff Hardy's auto and told him I was gonna sell it on ebay, I am sure he would could care absolutely less. What does he care? He is getting paid to do his signing. What one does with their auto is their business. However, if he was to give me one at a hotel and I told him that, I am sure he would be irked beyond belief.
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Post by missedgehead on Nov 5, 2010 12:27:02 GMT -5
Dont you have an ebay account and sell signed autographs?!?!?! You do! I have seen you sell a Jeff Hardy autograph and WWE events ring tickets. So how are you any different from the guys he is talking about? You ebay and you sell autographs. Yes I have an ebay account and yes I sell SOME signed autos. Did I sell a Jeff Hardy auto? Yes I did. I had a WWE IC Title signed by Jeff AT A PAID SIGNING! No wrestler gives a damn if you sell something you got at a paid signing. Its when you ask them for a freebie and they extend that gift, then you sell it. I also have a few TNA autos up for sale from the last round of house shows I was at. Why? Because I PAID FOR THEM! And look at the prices. $10 for a signed TNA 8X10 of Jeff Jarrett? Ummm....the unsigned promo cost $5. And selling WWE tickets? So what? WTF does that have to do with this topic? I scalp tickets. I scalp action figures. I'll scalp just about anything. But I dont scalp my autos. Its not my thing. I'm appreciative when someone gives me one for free. And they arent worth much anyway. But how do we or even CM know who the ebayers are and aren;t. That I know of, most ebayers don't post a picture of themselves. Maybe he just think that's what they are doing becasue the sme people show up anywhere in any given radius of cities. Unless you travel in certain circles, you really cant tell. Some of the scalpers do post their pics up and they are in them. Most do not. I know they are scalpers b/c they clearly state it and are proud of it. I'll say it again. They have every right to do as they please. For me personally, I dont do it and wont help them either. I dont agree with it. But to each their own. The only thing that upsets me is how they upset the wrestlers. Most scalpers are relentless, unappreciative and travel in packs. Tips on spotting one the next time you are at a hotel or airport. 8X10s. If they are have stacks of 8x10s and are trying to get the exact same 8x10 signed more than once.......good chance they are a scalper. Scalpers dont get programs, chairs, posters, etc. generally signed. They are usually getting figures or 8X10s. They travel in packs. Most scalpers come with a team of 3-4 additional people in order to get as many as they can. If you see 3-4 people with the same 8X10 and they are hanging together....good chance they are a scalper. Also look for someone getting something signed and then a flash going off, as the wrestler is signing it. Its VERY important they have someone taking a photo for them so they can get picture proof of the item being hand signed. And last scalpers are generally the guys shoving their way to the wrestler, jumping in front of others, etc. They are relentless. They must ensure they get their things signed and consider a missed auto as a missing dollar.[/quote] This is a perfect description of these ebayers/scalpers. At the Lexington/Bluegrass airport.....I over heard a few of them talking about how they looked up flights and tail numbers of private jets of various celebrities (like Jay Z) to find out when they would land etc. These people acted exactly like CM described. I was there to get photos with the wrestlers as a fan. They acted like it was a big chore to take my photo as they were losing an opportunity to make a buck as CM described above.
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Post by Sound888 on Nov 5, 2010 12:47:23 GMT -5
Ironically, out of the 5+ times I've bumped into CM Punk, the only time he stopped was when he had earphones on.
A lot of you guys blow this way out of proportion. I'm sure if any of you had the chance to meet someone famous, you would at LEAST try and say hi. There are millions of people who recognize them and would do the same thing, so one person out of a million deciding to be nice won't make a difference.
At the same time, the guys who do this as a hobby should not be upset the least bit if they miss someone. I have never gotten upset because a wrestler wouldn't stop for us because they don't need to. Anyone who meets a wrestler outside of a live show and an autograph signing is lucky. I am very grateful of who I have met, and don't regret any of it. In the end, they're just going to another city, and I have something that I will remember for a long time. No one owes a thing to the fans, especially when they're at the airport or hotel. They are there to travel, and nothing else.
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