Edgeacution
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Post by Edgeacution on Nov 5, 2010 15:10:40 GMT -5
Aren't you in essence then saying that this is you? Whether your approach is amicable or not is irrelevant. It's what you do. Whether I go to a friendly doctor or a mean doctor, he's still a doctor. And I think its a bit presumptious to define to us what a scalper is. There's no clear cut definition. Because you feel the critieria does not align with you does not necessarily dismiss you from being one. It's a matter of perception, and one can paint that perception in any way they choose in order to be seen in a different light. Are we to believe that you don't scalp these autos because you perceive them as a gift, even though you're seen taking photos with the wrestlers, you have an ebay account in which you sell the merchandise, you have a group of people that you hang with? Criteria by which you yourself have identified a scalper. And then you admittedly and quite boldly said you were a sclaper to other items. Are we to assume that those tendecies do not exist when it comes to autographs? Are we to assume that those tendencies do not exist when you uphold them as "wants" and/or "needs"? This is not an attack on you but rather an attempt to understand and accept why myself or anyone else should perceive you as anything other then what you say you are not. I know you enjoy your hobby and I'm glad you do. I just have a hard time believing that you are in the minority as someone who displays the "right method" of obtaining autographs. I know you try to be friendly and appreciative, but that alone does not overshadow what you do, imo. You may not be a "scalper" in the terms of what the genral public thinks as a scalper, but would you deny that you demonstrate many of the characteristics mentioned by CM punk in this video? If you can identify with it then I think it's only right to say that you are part what's being frowned on. If you can't identify it then what makes you different? I'm just trying to see where you're coming from. I agree with you I am not trying to pick a fight but CM STTPR HARDY scalping is scalping the definition in the dictionary of scalping is just buying something or receiving of goods and selling it to make more profit. Doesn't matter if its even $1 more its still what it is. Just because you sell your autographs for less money than anyone else doesnt mean you arent still scalping the autograph. You cant say you are different from them because you approach them differently have something signed and then throw it up on ebay and go "well no but I asked nicely so its different." Its not how you approach them its more of the end result no matter how rude others are. Scalpers = Walk up ask to sign stuff and throws it on ebay. CM STTPR HARDY = Walks up ask to sign stuff and throws some on ebay. The end result is the same no matter how rude others are and you are not, its not about the price or the way it was approached, its the act.
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Post by deskjet on Nov 5, 2010 15:24:49 GMT -5
I agree with him. If I was someone famous and someone wanted an autograph, I'd personalize it, because I'd like to think people are less likely to buy an autograph to John when their name is Steve. Doesnt help. Another reason 8X10s are used b/c personalizations CAN BE REMOVED. Sucks, but its true. I have seen it. And Deskjet, I am not gonna quote you b/c you wrote everything in one giant run on sentence/paragraph. We know who the scalpers are. They have no issue with stating it. Calling me a scalper b/c I sold a few autographs on ebay THAT I PAID FOR based on my criteria I listed makes ZERO sense. Scalpers DONT PAY for autos and if they do, they are selling them for big bucks. C'mon man. You know the difference between a scalper and not a scalper. You're just trying to cause a fight now. In addition, if I paid for Jeff Hardy's auto and told him I was gonna sell it on ebay, I am sure he would could care absolutely less. What does he care? He is getting paid to do his signing. What one does with their auto is their business. However, if he was to give me one at a hotel and I told him that, I am sure he would be irked beyond belief. You do know you can edit my quote if the run on bothered you . And I never called you a scalper, I asked you if you think you fit the criteria based upon what you identified to be a scalper. I think the average person, not knowing what a scalper is, might identify you as such. And if they were to go by your criteria, they may identify you as such as well. I was asking for you to clarify why you would think you would not fall under the same type of scrutiny? I think it's a valid question, and one not aimed at causing a fight. Moreover(how's that for breaking up the sentences?), I think that if you feel at liberty to present people with information as how to identify a scalper, I think it's only equally fair for someone to ask what your definition of a non sclaper is, and, in concordance, how do you fit into that paradigm? Either you can defend it or you can't, but it's certainly nothing to get offended about, unless of course there's a reason you should be offended?
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Post by spamdfms101 on Nov 5, 2010 15:40:03 GMT -5
I really cannot stand Punk, they guy is a douchebag. I wonder how all y'all would act if this was anybody else besides your beloved CM Punk that said all this. If I ever saw a famous wrestler in public I'd try to talk to them. I doubt I'd ask for an auto though.
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Post by cyantist on Nov 5, 2010 15:48:53 GMT -5
I don't think that was really scalping like Punk talks about though. Ive sold Auto's of people before. I had 2x the same Jeff Hardy signed So I sold one. I made sure to sell a fair price though. Ok you are a scalper then to be honest. What you consider a "fair price" may not be someone elses fair price. I mean if you went to an autograph session and got things signed that you paid for would you sell it for what you got it for? If thats the case if you were to see a wrestler and got the autograph for free are you going to give it away since you technically didnt pay for it? Thats fair but if you tack on a price that you feel is what you are owed on top of what you paid for the item its scalping. dictionary.reference.com/browse/scalping Scalp verb (used with object) a. to resell (tickets, merchandise, etc.) at higher than the official rates. Call me a scalper if you want. I resold it to some Jeff hardy mad kid at school for like £6. £2 more than I actually bought the unsigned 4x10 for. I consider scalping when you turn up and buy all the damn figures/ 4x10s and get them allsigned to then run home and through them up on ebay. I never set out to make a profit. I just ended up with two because I forgot I already had his auto.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Nov 5, 2010 15:56:27 GMT -5
What a lot of fans fail to understand is that after they leave the arena at the end of the night their job and duty to entertain you is fulfilled. After that they have no obligation to sign anything for you or pander to you taking pictures and crap. Sure some are nice enough to do so every single time and that's just swell but it doesn't mean that someone who doesn't want to is automatically an bunghole or hates all his fans... that's just assinine.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2010 16:00:28 GMT -5
Wow after reading the last 4 pages, some people are pretty stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2010 16:29:13 GMT -5
I would NEVER ask for an autograph if I got a chance to talk to/meet anyone famous.
A handshake would be nice, though...
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Nov 5, 2010 16:38:52 GMT -5
Ironically, out of the 5+ times I've bumped into CM Punk, the only time he stopped was when he had earphones on. A lot of you guys blow this way out of proportion. I'm sure if any of you had the chance to meet someone famous, you would at LEAST try and say hi. There are millions of people who recognize them and would do the same thing, so one person out of a million deciding to be nice won't make a difference. At the same time, the guys who do this as a hobby should not be upset the least bit if they miss someone. I have never gotten upset because a wrestler wouldn't stop for us because they don't need to. Anyone who meets a wrestler outside of a live show and an autograph signing is lucky. I am very grateful of who I have met, and don't regret any of it. In the end, they're just going to another city, and I have something that I will remember for a long time. No one owes a thing to the fans, especially when they're at the airport or hotel. They are there to travel, and nothing else. Who's getting upset when someone doesnt stop for them? I havent read any of that. If someone doesnt stop.....I thank them anyway. Punk has stopped for me a few times. And a few times he has ignored me. Is he a jerk? Sometimes....but arent we all? Aren't you in essence then saying that this is you? Whether your approach is amicable or not is irrelevant. It's what you do. Whether I go to a friendly doctor or a mean doctor, he's still a doctor. And I think its a bit presumptious to define to us what a scalper is. There's no clear cut definition. Because you feel the critieria does not align with you does not necessarily dismiss you from being one. It's a matter of perception, and one can paint that perception in any way they choose in order to be seen in a different light. Are we to believe that you don't scalp these autos because you perceive them as a gift, even though you're seen taking photos with the wrestlers, you have an ebay account in which you sell the merchandise, you have a group of people that you hang with? Criteria by which you yourself have identified a scalper. And then you admittedly and quite boldly said you were a sclaper to other items. Are we to assume that those tendecies do not exist when it comes to autographs? Are we to assume that those tendencies do not exist when you uphold them as "wants" and/or "needs"? This is not an attack on you but rather an attempt to understand and accept why myself or anyone else should perceive you as anything other then what you say you are not. I know you enjoy your hobby and I'm glad you do. I just have a hard time believing that you are in the minority as someone who displays the "right method" of obtaining autographs. I know you try to be friendly and appreciative, but that alone does not overshadow what you do, imo. You may not be a "scalper" in the terms of what the genral public thinks as a scalper, but would you deny that you demonstrate many of the characteristics mentioned by CM punk in this video? If you can identify with it then I think it's only right to say that you are part what's being frowned on. If you can't identify it then what makes you different? I'm just trying to see where you're coming from. I agree with you I am not trying to pick a fight but CM STTPR HARDY scalping is scalping the definition in the dictionary of scalping is just buying something or receiving of goods and selling it to make more profit. Doesn't matter if its even $1 more its still what it is. Just because you sell your autographs for less money than anyone else doesnt mean you arent still scalping the autograph. You cant say you are different from them because you approach them differently have something signed and then throw it up on ebay and go "well no but I asked nicely so its different." Its not how you approach them its more of the end result no matter how rude others are. Scalpers = Walk up ask to sign stuff and throws it on ebay. CM STTPR HARDY = Walks up ask to sign stuff and throws some on ebay. The end result is the same no matter how rude others are and you are not, its not about the price or the way it was approached, its the act. WTF is wrong with you?! Have you lost your mind? You dont read what I am posting. I NEVER sell anything I received from a wrestler. Read what the is posted or dont respond. Doesnt help. Another reason 8X10s are used b/c personalizations CAN BE REMOVED. Sucks, but its true. I have seen it. And Deskjet, I am not gonna quote you b/c you wrote everything in one giant run on sentence/paragraph. We know who the scalpers are. They have no issue with stating it. Calling me a scalper b/c I sold a few autographs on ebay THAT I PAID FOR based on my criteria I listed makes ZERO sense. Scalpers DONT PAY for autos and if they do, they are selling them for big bucks. C'mon man. You know the difference between a scalper and not a scalper. You're just trying to cause a fight now. In addition, if I paid for Jeff Hardy's auto and told him I was gonna sell it on ebay, I am sure he would could care absolutely less. What does he care? He is getting paid to do his signing. What one does with their auto is their business. However, if he was to give me one at a hotel and I told him that, I am sure he would be irked beyond belief. You do know you can edit my quote if the run on bothered you . And I never called you a scalper, I asked you if you think you fit the criteria based upon what you identified to be a scalper. I think the average person, not knowing what a scalper is, might identify you as such. And if they were to go by your criteria, they may identify you as such as well. I was asking for you to clarify why you would think you would not fall under the same type of scrutiny? I think it's a valid question, and one not aimed at causing a fight. Moreover(how's that for breaking up the sentences?), I think that if you feel at liberty to present people with information as how to identify a scalper, I think it's only equally fair for someone to ask what your definition of a non sclaper is, and, in concordance, how do you fit into that paradigm? Either you can defend it or you can't, but it's certainly nothing to get offended about, unless of course there's a reason you should be offended? I think I have more than answered the question. Anyone who buys an autograph and sells it for more or less money is not "an ebay scalper" based on the criteria I layed out. Its those who are going to hotels/airports and are getting freebies and putting them on ebay. What a lot of fans fail to understand is that after they leave the arena at the end of the night their job and duty to entertain you is fulfilled. After that they have no obligation to sign anything for you or pander to you taking pictures and ****. Sure some are nice enough to do so every single time and that's just swell but it doesn't mean that someone who doesn't want to is automatically an bunghole or hates all his fans... that's just assinine. Pandering to fans only puts money in their pockets in the long run. Gain a fan personally and they will buy more merchandise. I buy countless Edge and Jeff Hardy merch. Both have even thanked me. In addition, when you are in the position that pro wrestlers for WWE or TNA are in......autos/photos become a PR move. You represent the WWE or TNA. Autos/photos are a PR move.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Nov 5, 2010 18:49:30 GMT -5
What a lot of fans fail to understand is that after they leave the arena at the end of the night their job and duty to entertain you is fulfilled. After that they have no obligation to sign anything for you or pander to you taking pictures and ****. Sure some are nice enough to do so every single time and that's just swell but it doesn't mean that someone who doesn't want to is automatically an bunghole or hates all his fans... that's just assinine. Pandering to fans only puts money in their pockets in the long run. Gain a fan personally and they will buy more merchandise. I buy countless Edge and Jeff Hardy merch. Both have even thanked me. In addition, when you are in the position that pro wrestlers for WWE or TNA are in......autos/photos become a PR move. You represent the WWE or TNA. Autos/photos are a PR move. Pandering to fans at the shows is their job. Part of their job is to convince the fans at the arena to buy their merchandise. If you make your decision to buy a t-shirt based on their interaction with you outside of the ring that's your perogative but that's not part of the job description. I'd buy CM Punk t-shirts regardless of if he signed for an autograph for me or not... Of course it's a PR move which is why CM Punk doesn't out right refuse every single time but there's a time and place. To harrass a wrestler every chance you get because you think your entitled to it as a wrestling fan is completely assinine. Failing that it also happens to play into character. Even John Cena who is widely regarded as one of the nicest people you can meet refused me an autograph when he was still a heel stating he only signed at "sanctioned WWE events". Did you ever see me saying John Cena is a douchebag? No in fact I'm still a huge fan because I understand the concept of it being his perogative and his choice. Once the wrestlers leave the arena they are off the clock and are "Just a guy" as CM Punk said. If they chose to sign something for you bonus but if they don't then you have to understand that's their choice and respect it. I'm not going to base my fandom on someone based on how willing they are to non stop play to fans outside of shows. Except Johnny Devine, I became a fan of him because I saw him become a star and he's always been a nice guy even coming back to Edmonton for PWA shows...
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Post by Hurricane on Nov 5, 2010 18:53:44 GMT -5
They aren't there to be bothered by you. They do their job and after that, they don't have to do ****. If you listen to the interview, he's had someone pull the earphones out of his ears. That is just so rude and disrespectful. Seriously, what do you do when you are trying to get someone's attention and they are utterly ignoring you? I listened to the entire interview, and I completely understand that he wants respect, but he needs to show respect to others who are less fortunate than himself. There is a polite, professional if you will, way of going about things right off the bat that is respectful and acknowledges the other person as a fellow human being rather than simply ignoring and telling them to f*%k off or whatnot when they start to annoy you. As long as he is a celebrity, people are going to do crazy things. Fact. All I'm saying is that he could deal with it better. You dont ing tap a celebrity when they are ignoring you. Thats stupid. And CM Showstopper, even if you buy it from a signing and sell it, its still scalping. Im not trying to pick a fight, man, at all. In fact, I say good on you for doing it, so dont get me wrong.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Nov 5, 2010 19:55:05 GMT -5
Pandering to fans only puts money in their pockets in the long run. Gain a fan personally and they will buy more merchandise. I buy countless Edge and Jeff Hardy merch. Both have even thanked me. In addition, when you are in the position that pro wrestlers for WWE or TNA are in......autos/photos become a PR move. You represent the WWE or TNA. Autos/photos are a PR move. Pandering to fans at the shows is their job. Part of their job is to convince the fans at the arena to buy their merchandise. If you make your decision to buy a t-shirt based on their interaction with you outside of the ring that's your perogative but that's not part of the job description. I'd buy CM Punk t-shirts regardless of if he signed for an autograph for me or not... Of course it's a PR move which is why CM Punk doesn't out right refuse every single time but there's a time and place. To harrass a wrestler every chance you get because you think your entitled to it as a wrestling fan is completely assinine. Failing that it also happens to play into character. Even John Cena who is widely regarded as one of the nicest people you can meet refused me an autograph when he was still a heel stating he only signed at "sanctioned WWE events". Did you ever see me saying John Cena is a douchebag? No in fact I'm still a huge fan because I understand the concept of it being his perogative and his choice. Once the wrestlers leave the arena they are off the clock and are "Just a guy" as CM Punk said. If they chose to sign something for you bonus but if they don't then you have to understand that's their choice and respect it. I'm not going to base my fandom on someone based on how willing they are to non stop play to fans outside of shows. Except Johnny Devine, I became a fan of him because I saw him become a star and he's always been a nice guy even coming back to Edmonton for PWA shows... Celebrities are NEVER off the clock, when they are in public. Thats why its important to protect their image. Thats why they have PR managers. Seriously, what do you do when you are trying to get someone's attention and they are utterly ignoring you? I listened to the entire interview, and I completely understand that he wants respect, but he needs to show respect to others who are less fortunate than himself. There is a polite, professional if you will, way of going about things right off the bat that is respectful and acknowledges the other person as a fellow human being rather than simply ignoring and telling them to f*%k off or whatnot when they start to annoy you. As long as he is a celebrity, people are going to do crazy things. Fact. All I'm saying is that he could deal with it better. You dont ing tap a celebrity when they are ignoring you. Thats stupid. And CM Showstopper, even if you buy it from a signing and sell it, its still scalping. Im not trying to pick a fight, man, at all. In fact, I say good on you for doing it, so dont get me wrong. You are calling me a scalper based off the definition of the word, which is fine. I am proud to be a ticket scalper. I proud to be an action figure scalper. But the subject is hand is scalpers from hotels/airports. People who go out and obtain autographs for free and sell them on ebay. The subject is NOT me selling a signed belt I got from a Jeff Hardy signing that I paid for and then sold on ebay. I am not saying selling stuff on ebay is bad. I am not saying being a scalper is bad. I simply stating that I am NOT one of those folks that I listed criteria for in previous posts.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Nov 5, 2010 20:07:54 GMT -5
Pandering to fans at the shows is their job. Part of their job is to convince the fans at the arena to buy their merchandise. If you make your decision to buy a t-shirt based on their interaction with you outside of the ring that's your perogative but that's not part of the job description. I'd buy CM Punk t-shirts regardless of if he signed for an autograph for me or not... Of course it's a PR move which is why CM Punk doesn't out right refuse every single time but there's a time and place. To harrass a wrestler every chance you get because you think your entitled to it as a wrestling fan is completely assinine. Failing that it also happens to play into character. Even John Cena who is widely regarded as one of the nicest people you can meet refused me an autograph when he was still a heel stating he only signed at "sanctioned WWE events". Did you ever see me saying John Cena is a douchebag? No in fact I'm still a huge fan because I understand the concept of it being his perogative and his choice. Once the wrestlers leave the arena they are off the clock and are "Just a guy" as CM Punk said. If they chose to sign something for you bonus but if they don't then you have to understand that's their choice and respect it. I'm not going to base my fandom on someone based on how willing they are to non stop play to fans outside of shows. Except Johnny Devine, I became a fan of him because I saw him become a star and he's always been a nice guy even coming back to Edmonton for PWA shows... Celebrities are NEVER off the clock, when they are in public. Thats why its important to protect their image. Thats why they have PR managers. Yes they are no longer at work when they leave the arena. Wrestlers are not celebrities wrestlers are more like athletes. Hockey players don't get harrassed nearly as much as wrestlers do. Hell you don't hear UFC fighters getting harrassed nearly as much. Just because wrestlers do promos and things like that they're basically actors? No I disagree. Wrestlers are off the clock when they leave the ring, get changed and walk out of that arena. Their obligations to you are finished after that. Everything after that is secondary and based entirely on whether they want to or not. If they chose not to that is not indicative of his character. Their image is entirely based on what you see on TV or at a House Show, not if they sign a million autographs for fans after shows.
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Post by motleyspoisongun on Nov 5, 2010 20:41:01 GMT -5
fans may not like what he has to say but it's the truth, you can usually tell if someone is willing to be approached but if their head is down or they are doing something else, leave them alone
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Post by comintogetcha on Nov 5, 2010 21:17:52 GMT -5
If you happen to run into a wrestler in public or on the way out of the arena, unless they are other preoccupied, then there really isn't a problem at least saying hi, although maybe an autograph might be a bit much.
The people who hang around at hotels, restaurants, and airports and stalk the wrestlers however are just weird bungholes who should quite frankly get a life. Every time I see a post here with people posting about how they tracked down which hotel the wrestlers were staying at and waited in the lobby for six hours for them to come out and be put on the spot to sign autographs and take pictures, I bite my tongue to stop myself from telling them what losers they are and how stupid it is for you to waste all that time just to harass some wrestlers trying to leave and go home.
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Post by J12 on Nov 5, 2010 21:52:07 GMT -5
A few relatively unrelated comments (as it pertains to the discussion that has now developed)...
First of all, I listened to that entire interview that Colt did with Punk. Great stuff. I definitely recommend everyone check out the whole thing rather than just that clip, it really takes some of the things out of context. Not to mention, it's a great interview in general.
Secondly, I understand why fans follow wrestlers around at airports, hotels, etc. I get it. I used to be jealous and want to do it myself, but never did. When I cared that much about meeting wrestlers, I was too young, and even now, while there are plenty I'd still like to meet, I'm not the type of person to just walk up and approach someone.
I do have one particular occasion I feel is worth mentioning, and it's really the only time I've initiated conversation with a wrestler outside of anything official.
At a house show back in 2005, my friends and I were pulling into the entrance to the arena. This is in small market, somewhere WWE only visits every few years. (Bangor, Maine, though oddly enough, it's where Vince booked his very first show ever.) There's only one way in and one way out, so as we were pulling in (stuck in one lane traffic going in), a car was stopped directly next to us going out. I happened to look over from the passenger seat and see that it was John Morrison (then Nitro) and Melina. They had their windows down, as did we, so I just shyly leaned over and said "hey John". He and Melina both said hi to us and said they'd see us at the show, blah blah. They then asked us if we knew where they could grab a bite to eat, which was cool. Later that night, Melina pointed us out when MNM came to the ring.
Even just striking up conversation like that made me feel weird. Granted, both of them were really nice and we were actually able to help them out a bit, but I just can't see myself approaching anyone.
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Post by RoOSTA on Nov 5, 2010 22:23:34 GMT -5
He's right, There is a time & place for autographs. Problem is some people don't see it that way. HAHAHAHA oh my god...If you see the SAME people everywhere, then yeah, don't interact with them. When they visit certain countries and one STATE in that country is able to see 2 of a potential 30 superstar roster at an "official signing" then I tink its smart and almost EXPECTED by fans to go the the airport Punk was thee worst when I met him at an official signing and this is about the 4th or 5th story I've heard from fans around the world about what he is like, even when he is approached in a friendly manner. What a c*nt If you don't like it Punk (or other wrestlers), GTFO. Price ytou pay for fame.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Nov 5, 2010 22:29:52 GMT -5
Celebrities are NEVER off the clock, when they are in public. Thats why its important to protect their image. Thats why they have PR managers. Yes they are no longer at work when they leave the arena. Wrestlers are not celebrities wrestlers are more like athletes. Hockey players don't get harrassed nearly as much as wrestlers do. Hell you don't hear UFC fighters getting harrassed nearly as much. Just because wrestlers do promos and things like that they're basically actors? No I disagree. Wrestlers are off the clock when they leave the ring, get changed and walk out of that arena. Their obligations to you are finished after that. Everything after that is secondary and based entirely on whether they want to or not. If they chose not to that is not indicative of his character. Their image is entirely based on what you see on TV or at a House Show, not if they sign a million autographs for fans after shows. Hockey and UFC dont travel as much as WWE does, first of all. Secondly, when UFC is in the north east, I can tell you several folks head to the airports and hotels. Their autos are worth a few dollars on ebay. As far as their image being entirely based off of what you see on tv, you are completely wrong. Nexus was instructed not to sign or take pictures during a certain period of time this year. Before that and now, they do b/c that period is over. In addition, some of the guys still try and respect kayfabe. Orton almost never takes pics when he is a heel or sign. When he is a babyface, he does. If you happen to run into a wrestler in public or on the way out of the arena, unless they are other preoccupied, then there really isn't a problem at least saying hi, although maybe an autograph might be a bit much. The people who hang around at hotels, restaurants, and airports and stalk the wrestlers however are just weird bungholes who should quite frankly get a life. Every time I see a post here with people posting about how they tracked down which hotel the wrestlers were staying at and waited in the lobby for six hours for them to come out and be put on the spot to sign autographs and take pictures, I bite my tongue to stop myself from telling them what losers they are and how stupid it is for you to waste all that time just to harass some wrestlers trying to leave and go home. I'm not even going to get into it with you. Clearly, this will turn into a giant fight.
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Post by juicewinslow on Nov 5, 2010 22:32:16 GMT -5
He's right, There is a time & place for autographs. Problem is some people don't see it that way. HAHAHAHA oh my god...If you see the SAME people everywhere, then yeah, don't interact with them. When they visit certain countries and one STATE in that country is able to see 2 of a potential 30 superstar roster at an "official signing" then I tink its smart and almost EXPECTED by fans to go the the airport Punk was thee worst when I met him at an official signing and this is about the 4th or 5th story I've heard from fans around the world about what he is like, even when he is approached in a friendly manner. What a c*nt If you don't like it Punk (or other wrestlers), GTFO. Price ytou pay for fame. Why? What did CM Punk do?
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Nov 5, 2010 22:43:01 GMT -5
Yes they are no longer at work when they leave the arena. Wrestlers are not celebrities wrestlers are more like athletes. Hockey players don't get harrassed nearly as much as wrestlers do. Hell you don't hear UFC fighters getting harrassed nearly as much. Just because wrestlers do promos and things like that they're basically actors? No I disagree. Wrestlers are off the clock when they leave the ring, get changed and walk out of that arena. Their obligations to you are finished after that. Everything after that is secondary and based entirely on whether they want to or not. If they chose not to that is not indicative of his character. Their image is entirely based on what you see on TV or at a House Show, not if they sign a million autographs for fans after shows. Hockey and UFC dont travel as much as WWE does, first of all. Secondly, when UFC is in the north east, I can tell you several folks head to the airports and hotels. Their autos are worth a few dollars on ebay. As far as their image being entirely based off of what you see on tv, you are completely wrong. Nexus was instructed not to sign or take pictures during a certain period of time this year. Before that and now, they do b/c that period is over. In addition, some of the guys still try and respect kayfabe. Orton almost never takes pics when he is a heel or sign. When he is a babyface, he does. I respectfully disagree with everything you said. However I will cease to argue leaving off on this post. Why do you think since Wrestlers travel more that means they should be MORE susceptable to being approached at airports? If they're travelling more that means they have less time to themselves and what little time they do have between flights and shows should be given to them hassle free... Should be but there are a lot of "fans" out there who refuse to have some common courtesy to just let them do their thing. Like I said, if there are those wrestlers out there that want to sign then golden crispy however you can't say so and so is an bunghole or a douche bag because they have no inclination to sign an autograph for you. That's just ignorance... I feel as though I should point out that when I say "you" I'm not directly referring to you it's a general statement.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Nov 5, 2010 22:59:41 GMT -5
Hockey and UFC dont travel as much as WWE does, first of all. Secondly, when UFC is in the north east, I can tell you several folks head to the airports and hotels. Their autos are worth a few dollars on ebay. As far as their image being entirely based off of what you see on tv, you are completely wrong. Nexus was instructed not to sign or take pictures during a certain period of time this year. Before that and now, they do b/c that period is over. In addition, some of the guys still try and respect kayfabe. Orton almost never takes pics when he is a heel or sign. When he is a babyface, he does. I respectfully disagree with everything you said. However I will cease to argue leaving off on this post. Why do you think since Wrestlers travel more that means they should be MORE susceptable to being approached at airports? If they're travelling more that means they have less time to themselves and what little time they do have between flights and shows should be given to them hassle free... Should be but there are a lot of "fans" out there who refuse to have some common courtesy to just let them do their thing. Like I said, if there are those wrestlers out there that want to sign then golden crispy however you can't say so and so is an bunghole or a douche bag because they have no inclination to sign an autograph for you. That's just ignorance... I feel as though I should point out that when I say "you" I'm not directly referring to you it's a general statement. I dont understand your logic. The more you have unprotected sex, the more likely you are to contract an STD. Its simple. I wish you had said that when you said "you" you didnt directly mean me. I took it differently. For me, and when I say me I mean mean, if someone says no.....I thank them anyway and move along. I'll try again another day or another time.
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