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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Jun 10, 2019 17:16:24 GMT -5
They need the top stars on the shelves. TV is driving the product and without AJ Styles, Roman Reigns, Seth Rollins, Braun Stroman, Finn Balor, etc, they wouldnt be able to make the Legends. I get all of that. But my question is why so many? Over and over again, every single series, every single line. Because they’re the top guys. End of story. In 1999, Rock, Austin, Undertaker, Kane, & Mankind were in almost every single series (with Austin legitimately being in every single one). Because they were the top sellers. PJ’s Batman analogy is spot on. Every single Batman series has a Batman in it. Why? Because he’s f****ng Batman.
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Post by aaron34 on Jun 11, 2019 1:32:11 GMT -5
Someone mentioned it earlier.. He-Man - it was explained on the toys that made us episode! Mattel sales of He-man later series were poor because the line didn’t have the main characters in them... once new collectors couldn’t get action figures of the main characters they lost interest and stopped buying.
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Post by Hasbromaniac on Jun 11, 2019 5:58:56 GMT -5
It's better seeing the main event guys warming pegs than having empty pegs.
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Post by Crossfit Jesus on Jun 11, 2019 18:37:46 GMT -5
At least with Rey and Cena, they kept updating their looks. Roman just has a new vest color and As much as I like Seth and Aj Mattel seems to only make their black attires weirdly
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Post by alphadeltaxray on Jun 12, 2019 9:52:44 GMT -5
It's better seeing the main event guys warming pegs than having empty pegs. Not really because they are whats stopping most stores from stocking a new series.
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Post by alphadeltaxray on Jun 12, 2019 9:59:20 GMT -5
Someone mentioned it earlier.. He-Man - it was explained on the toys that made us episode! Mattel sales of He-man later series were poor because the line didn’t have the main characters in them... once new collectors couldn’t get action figures of the main characters they lost interest and stopped buying. No one said to stop making them. Even if they made them every other series they would always till be easily retainable in stores. Besides, He-Man was a totally different thing than WWE. WWE has hundreds or more wrestlers past and present that everyone wants to see made. And the fact that we get a brand new series every few weeks means they can make more of just about anyone they are allowed to. I like the idea of series 67 and 69. They seem to be the hottest sellers lately, especially on RSC. Why? Because it's basically a whole new wave of figures many of which we haven't seen yet and everyone's excited for them. Shayna Baszler, Velveteen Dream, Ricochet, Ali, Lashley. And 68 had Mabel, which people are still going crazy for. You don't see anyone talking about the new 2019 Top Picks at all, though. Imagine an entire series of figures such as King Mabel? Or even 2 series' with figures such as Haku, Hercules, Hollywood Hogan? It would be one of the biggest sellers to date.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Jun 12, 2019 10:18:16 GMT -5
Someone mentioned it earlier.. He-Man - it was explained on the toys that made us episode! Mattel sales of He-man later series were poor because the line didn’t have the main characters in them... once new collectors couldn’t get action figures of the main characters they lost interest and stopped buying. No one said to stop making them. Even if they made them every other series they would always till be easily retainable in stores. Besides, He-Man was a totally different thing than WWE. WWE has hundreds or more wrestlers past and present that everyone wants to see made. And the fact that we get a brand new series every few weeks means they can make more of just about anyone they are allowed to. I like the idea of series 67 and 69. They seem to be the hottest sellers lately, especially on RSC. Why? Because it's basically a whole new wave of figures many of which we haven't seen yet and everyone's excited for them. Shayna Baszler, Velveteen Dream, Ricochet, Ali, Lashley. And 68 had Mabel, which people are still going crazy for. You don't see anyone talking about the new 2019 Top Picks at all, though. Imagine an entire series of figures such as King Mabel? Or even 2 series' with figures such as Haku, Hercules, Hollywood Hogan? It would be one of the biggest sellers to date. Man this is every toy series ever made. Batman, Spider-Man, Superman, Scooby Doo, Toy Story. It’s what the stores want. I feel like they have even tried to find ways to get the top guys out there while still getting different characters out there. I also give Mattel credit for recognizing when a top guy isn’t hitting and scaling back on them. Just look at Sheamus, Ziggler, Bray, and Orton. There was a time when they were making these guys all the time but once they started to sit, they scaled way back. I am sure they will do the same with Shinsuke and anyone else. Hell Jakks used to have sets literally made up with the same four or five guys as the last set with anyone one new face. Mattel does a great job, people just like to bitch.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Jun 12, 2019 10:22:47 GMT -5
Someone mentioned it earlier.. He-Man - it was explained on the toys that made us episode! Mattel sales of He-man later series were poor because the line didn’t have the main characters in them... once new collectors couldn’t get action figures of the main characters they lost interest and stopped buying. No one said to stop making them. Even if they made them every other series they would always till be easily retainable in stores. Besides, He-Man was a totally different thing than WWE. WWE has hundreds or more wrestlers past and present that everyone wants to see made. And the fact that we get a brand new series every few weeks means they can make more of just about anyone they are allowed to. I like the idea of series 67 and 69. They seem to be the hottest sellers lately, especially on RSC. Why? Because it's basically a whole new wave of figures many of which we haven't seen yet and everyone's excited for them. Shayna Baszler, Velveteen Dream, Ricochet, Ali, Lashley. And 68 had Mabel, which people are still going crazy for. You don't see anyone talking about the new 2019 Top Picks at all, though. Imagine an entire series of figures such as King Mabel? Or even 2 series' with figures such as Haku, Hercules, Hollywood Hogan? It would be one of the biggest sellers to date. And did you really just try and say a series made up of Mabel, Haku, and Hercules would be the best selling set? I want figures of those guys but c’mon? That’s the collector in you talking. It’s been proven time and time again but ignored time and time again, a lot of those mid level 80’s and 90’s just don’t fly off the shelf’s like we wish. Just look at Tugboat, Bezerker, Warlord, Wild Samoans, Tito Santana, Nasty Boys, Junkyard Dog, Natural Disasters. These were always the ones left from those particular sets.
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Post by CM Poor on Jun 12, 2019 10:38:32 GMT -5
Someone mentioned it earlier.. He-Man - it was explained on the toys that made us episode! Mattel sales of He-man later series were poor because the line didn’t have the main characters in them... once new collectors couldn’t get action figures of the main characters they lost interest and stopped buying. No one said to stop making them. Even if they made them every other series they would always till be easily retainable in stores. Besides, He-Man was a totally different thing than WWE. WWE has hundreds or more wrestlers past and present that everyone wants to see made. And the fact that we get a brand new series every few weeks means they can make more of just about anyone they are allowed to. I like the idea of series 67 and 69. They seem to be the hottest sellers lately, especially on RSC. Why? Because it's basically a whole new wave of figures many of which we haven't seen yet and everyone's excited for them. Shayna Baszler, Velveteen Dream, Ricochet, Ali, Lashley. And 68 had Mabel, which people are still going crazy for. You don't see anyone talking about the new 2019 Top Picks at all, though. Imagine an entire series of figures such as King Mabel? Or even 2 series' with figures such as Haku, Hercules, Hollywood Hogan? It would be one of the biggest sellers to date. Don't be fooled into thinking that the vocalizations of this board are representative of anything more than a sample size cross section of this line's total demographic. Manufacturers of toy lines based upon outside properties that bear any appeal to their number one, primary target demographic (kids!) have to operate under the assumption that every single day is someone's first time discovering said property. When that happens, that kid isn't going to drag his mother to the store in search of Mabel, Haku, and Hercules. He's going to be looking for Rollins, Styles, Roman, Finn, Braun, and any other top tier babyface marketed toward the demo who drives their caregivers to spend copious amounts of money. Kids also have no qualms about owning multiples of the same character.
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Post by alphadeltaxray on Jun 12, 2019 11:50:37 GMT -5
No one said to stop making them. Even if they made them every other series they would always till be easily retainable in stores. Besides, He-Man was a totally different thing than WWE. WWE has hundreds or more wrestlers past and present that everyone wants to see made. And the fact that we get a brand new series every few weeks means they can make more of just about anyone they are allowed to. I like the idea of series 67 and 69. They seem to be the hottest sellers lately, especially on RSC. Why? Because it's basically a whole new wave of figures many of which we haven't seen yet and everyone's excited for them. Shayna Baszler, Velveteen Dream, Ricochet, Ali, Lashley. And 68 had Mabel, which people are still going crazy for. You don't see anyone talking about the new 2019 Top Picks at all, though. Imagine an entire series of figures such as King Mabel? Or even 2 series' with figures such as Haku, Hercules, Hollywood Hogan? It would be one of the biggest sellers to date. Don't be fooled into thinking that the vocalizations of this board are representative of anything more than a sample size cross section of this line's total demographic. Manufacturers of toy lines based upon outside properties that bear any appeal to their number one, primary target demographic (kids!) have to operate under the assumption that every single day is someone's first time discovering said property. When that happens, that kid isn't going to drag his mother to the store in search of Mabel, Haku, and Hercules. He's going to be looking for Rollins, Styles, Roman, Finn, Braun, and any other top tier babyface marketed toward the demo who drives their caregivers to spend copious amounts of money. Kids also have no qualms about owning multiples of the same character. Multiples of the same character if they are in different attire. Like someone said earlier in this thread, they keep putting rollins and AJ in black outfits. Maybe something a little different would suffice. Also, as I said before, even if they make a series without those figures they are almost always still readily available from any previous series and the dreaded Top Picks that are usually on the shelves year round.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Jun 12, 2019 11:57:28 GMT -5
Don't be fooled into thinking that the vocalizations of this board are representative of anything more than a sample size cross section of this line's total demographic. Manufacturers of toy lines based upon outside properties that bear any appeal to their number one, primary target demographic (kids!) have to operate under the assumption that every single day is someone's first time discovering said property. When that happens, that kid isn't going to drag his mother to the store in search of Mabel, Haku, and Hercules. He's going to be looking for Rollins, Styles, Roman, Finn, Braun, and any other top tier babyface marketed toward the demo who drives their caregivers to spend copious amounts of money. Kids also have no qualms about owning multiples of the same character. Multiples of the same character if they are in different attire. Like someone said earlier in this thread, they keep putting rollins and AJ in black outfits. Maybe something a little different would suffice. Also, as I said before, even if they make a series without those figures they are almost always still readily available from any previous series and the dreaded Top Picks that are usually on the shelves year round. I don’t know where you are shopping, but the only top picks I see around here are mania AJ, which just seems like they packed too many of him. In my stores Finn, Seth, and Braun are long gone. Seth imparticular is always in high demand.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jun 12, 2019 12:11:37 GMT -5
“Why does Mattel cater to the mainstream instead of the niche hardcore collector?”
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Jun 12, 2019 12:54:06 GMT -5
Don't be fooled into thinking that the vocalizations of this board are representative of anything more than a sample size cross section of this line's total demographic. Manufacturers of toy lines based upon outside properties that bear any appeal to their number one, primary target demographic (kids!) have to operate under the assumption that every single day is someone's first time discovering said property. When that happens, that kid isn't going to drag his mother to the store in search of Mabel, Haku, and Hercules. He's going to be looking for Rollins, Styles, Roman, Finn, Braun, and any other top tier babyface marketed toward the demo who drives their caregivers to spend copious amounts of money. Kids also have no qualms about owning multiples of the same character. Multiples of the same character if they are in different attire. Like someone said earlier in this thread, they keep putting rollins and AJ in black outfits. Maybe something a little different would suffice. Also, as I said before, even if they make a series without those figures they are almost always still readily available from any previous series and the dreaded Top Picks that are usually on the shelves year round.
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Post by legendsguy on Jun 12, 2019 13:37:23 GMT -5
I think they need to mix it up though now.. maybe include AJ and Roman or whatever combo you choose, but include maybe a woman like Becky or something and then maybe a upper mid card talent like Corbin/Kofi/Dbry or someone who is farther down the card in terms of how WWE uses them. I think having the same 4 in every top picks line is a stupid decision honestly but that's me. Having 4 Brauns come out basically the same figure isn't a good marketing choice espec when basics/battlepacks are also following that elite figure hitting. Plus this helps curve the overstock of these guys. like I said I went to Wally and found 10 AJs warming. And a couple of basic AJs sitting there also. I know that's just my store but it just means that store wont stock anything else until those sell off.
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Post by CM Poor on Jun 12, 2019 14:18:11 GMT -5
Multiples of the same character if they are in different attire. Like someone said earlier in this thread, they keep putting rollins and AJ in black outfits. Maybe something a little different would suffice. Also, as I said before, even if they make a series without those figures they are almost always still readily available from any previous series and the dreaded Top Picks that are usually on the shelves year round. See also: Dunkin Donuts in New England. There's an eight mile, contiguous stretch of road that runs through my town. There are six opportunities to stop at a Dunkin Donuts from the first to the last, with a seventh having just passed the city council hurdle to begin construction. Not a single one of them sees their business suffer for the other, each is owned and operated by the same franchise owner, and each has been in business for 15+ years. City wide, this eight mile stretch of road only represents half of that individual's total market share, as deviating from point A to point B will still find you six more opportunities to get your fix.
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Post by aaron34 on Jun 12, 2019 17:54:16 GMT -5
I wasn’t trying to start an argument... just more answering a question 😬
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Post by BadGirlRyleigh on Jun 12, 2019 18:00:46 GMT -5
I think they need to mix it up though now.. maybe include AJ and Roman or whatever combo you choose, but include maybe a woman like Becky or something and then maybe a upper mid card talent like Corbin/Kofi/Dbry or someone who is farther down the card in terms of how WWE uses them. I think having the same 4 in every top picks line is a stupid decision honestly but that's me. Having 4 Brauns come out basically the same figure isn't a good marketing choice espec when basics/battlepacks are also following that elite figure hitting. Plus this helps curve the overstock of these guys. like I said I went to Wally and found 10 AJs warming. And a couple of basic AJs sitting there also. I know that's just my store but it just means that store wont stock anything else until those sell off. Someone like Braun does present a huge drawback because he rarely changes his gear. They should choose somebody else to put in the top talent line and keep Braun in the regular sets
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Post by theicwguy on Jun 12, 2019 19:11:23 GMT -5
No one said to stop making them. Even if they made them every other series they would always till be easily retainable in stores. Besides, He-Man was a totally different thing than WWE. WWE has hundreds or more wrestlers past and present that everyone wants to see made. And the fact that we get a brand new series every few weeks means they can make more of just about anyone they are allowed to. I like the idea of series 67 and 69. They seem to be the hottest sellers lately, especially on RSC. Why? Because it's basically a whole new wave of figures many of which we haven't seen yet and everyone's excited for them. Shayna Baszler, Velveteen Dream, Ricochet, Ali, Lashley. And 68 had Mabel, which people are still going crazy for. You don't see anyone talking about the new 2019 Top Picks at all, though. Imagine an entire series of figures such as King Mabel? Or even 2 series' with figures such as Haku, Hercules, Hollywood Hogan? It would be one of the biggest sellers to date. Kids also have no qualms about owning multiples of the same character. Me neither tbh but I look 15 so what do I know?
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Post by hitmancmedge on Jun 12, 2019 19:17:27 GMT -5
I think they need to mix it up though now.. maybe include AJ and Roman or whatever combo you choose, but include maybe a woman like Becky or something and then maybe a upper mid card talent like Corbin/Kofi/Dbry or someone who is farther down the card in terms of how WWE uses them. I think having the same 4 in every top picks line is a stupid decision honestly but that's me. Having 4 Brauns come out basically the same figure isn't a good marketing choice espec when basics/battlepacks are also following that elite figure hitting. Plus this helps curve the overstock of these guys. like I said I went to Wally and found 10 AJs warming. And a couple of basic AJs sitting there also. I know that's just my store but it just means that store wont stock anything else until those sell off. Someone like Braun does present a huge drawback because he rarely changes his gear. They should choose somebody else to put in the top talent line and keep Braun in the regular sets Yea but I think Braun and Nakamura are examples of people that if you go back a year-year and a half are two very big over stars. I think with their stock falling a bit you will see less of these two, with people like Seth, Kofi, Daniel Bryan, McIntyre taking their place.
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Post by Chewdeezy on Jun 12, 2019 20:49:03 GMT -5
Why is this so hard to understand?
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