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Post by crush on Jun 13, 2019 7:55:15 GMT -5
Someone mentioned it earlier.. He-Man - it was explained on the toys that made us episode! Mattel sales of He-man later series were poor because the line didn’t have the main characters in them... once new collectors couldn’t get action figures of the main characters they lost interest and stopped buying. No one said to stop making them. Even if they made them every other series they would always till be easily retainable in stores. Besides, He-Man was a totally different thing than WWE. WWE has hundreds or more wrestlers past and present that everyone wants to see made. And the fact that we get a brand new series every few weeks means they can make more of just about anyone they are allowed to. I like the idea of series 67 and 69. They seem to be the hottest sellers lately, especially on RSC. Why? Because it's basically a whole new wave of figures many of which we haven't seen yet and everyone's excited for them. Shayna Baszler, Velveteen Dream, Ricochet, Ali, Lashley. And 68 had Mabel, which people are still going crazy for. You don't see anyone talking about the new 2019 Top Picks at all, though. Imagine an entire series of figures such as King Mabel? Or even 2 series' with figures such as Haku, Hercules, Hollywood Hogan? It would be one of the biggest sellers to date. Ringside caters to the niche, hardcore collector audience. As for why every series has at least 1-2 “top guys” it’s because Mattel/WWE/stores want versions of those guys on shelves at all times. Like, to them the fact that people claim that their Wal-Mart always has AJ (or whoever) on the shelf isn’t a bad thing. It’s generally what they’re going for.
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Post by PJ on Jun 13, 2019 8:42:21 GMT -5
Why is this so hard to understand? Because people are selfish and entitled and feel they should be the only one companies cater to.
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Post by Lorenzo Alcazar on Jun 13, 2019 8:53:20 GMT -5
Mattel has to do this because they need to be ready for all the little Jimmy's who just started collecting TODAY.
It sucks and it creates a massive stand still of shelf warmers...but the good news is that it doesn't affect the main Elite line, and hopefully Mattel is smart enough to pull AJ Styles, Braun Strowman, Seth Rollins and Finn Balor from future Elite lines so that there is no overlap.
So even if Top Talents warms in your stores, the main Elite Series should still continue to flow in, provided the previous Series sold.
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Post by Elitemainia on Jun 14, 2019 9:09:40 GMT -5
If wwe would book the talent better then we could get better guys but at the same time My Walmart has 6 nakamura warming the shelf with 4 AJs all I hear from people is they sell and kids buy them yes its true kids do want them but when Mattel puts the same guys In every series the parents get tired of buying the same figures of the same guys I know cause I'm one of those parents I collect figures myself and my kids ask for guys I already bought them I tell them no because I done bought that same Braun last series I'm not buying another one just because it's in a different package or comes with a Stretcher etc. So I hear people say the same at other walmarts and targets with the Same guys warming the shelf so clearly they are not selling as good as you might think kids do want the people they see on TV but my God there are other people on TV other then AJ,Braun, seth ,Roman etc another problem is Mattel is so damn slow at putting guys out that by the time they do make them they are hurt or wwe stops pushing them look at Bobby lashley why the heck has it taken so long to put him out he came back after wrestlemania last year and look how they booked look at Ronda rousey had a match at wrestlemania last year and her figure came out buy the end of the year Bobby is still there and his figure is just being released and where is Ronda off TV
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Post by hitmancmedge on Jun 14, 2019 9:17:04 GMT -5
If wwe would book the talent better then we could get better guys but at the same time My Walmart has 6 nakamura warming the shelf with 4 AJs all I hear from people is they sell and kids buy them yes its true kids do want them but when Mattel puts the same guys In every series the parents get tired of buying the same figures of the same guys I know cause I'm one of those parents I collect figures myself and my kids ask for guys I already bought them I tell them no because I done bought that same Braun last series I'm not buying another one just because it's in a different package or comes with a Stretcher etc. So I hear people say the same at other walmarts and targets with the Same guys warming the shelf so clearly they are not selling as good as you might think kids do want the people they see on TV but my God there are other people on TV other then AJ,Braun, seth ,Roman etc another problem is Mattel is so damn slow at putting guys out that by the time they do make them they are hurt or wwe stops pushing them look at Bobby lashley why the heck has it taken so long to put him out he came back after wrestlemania last year and look how they booked look at Ronda rousey had a match at wrestlemania last year and her figure came out buy the end of the year Bobby is still there and his figure is just being released and where is Ronda off TV You answered your own question when you provided the example of your kids begging for another Braun. Ronda’s first figure A wasn’t great and clearly a rush job, B she debuted at the rumble, C I am sure she was signed months before that and they knew it would be a huge deal and got to work early on the figure. Depending on parts a figure takes a year-year and a half. Same for Marvel etc.
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Post by Elitemainia on Jun 14, 2019 9:34:16 GMT -5
If wwe would book the talent better then we could get better guys but at the same time My Walmart has 6 nakamura warming the shelf with 4 AJs all I hear from people is they sell and kids buy them yes its true kids do want them but when Mattel puts the same guys In every series the parents get tired of buying the same figures of the same guys I know cause I'm one of those parents I collect figures myself and my kids ask for guys I already bought them I tell them no because I done bought that same Braun last series I'm not buying another one just because it's in a different package or comes with a Stretcher etc. So I hear people say the same at other walmarts and targets with the Same guys warming the shelf so clearly they are not selling as good as you might think kids do want the people they see on TV but my God there are other people on TV other then AJ,Braun, seth ,Roman etc another problem is Mattel is so damn slow at putting guys out that by the time they do make them they are hurt or wwe stops pushing them look at Bobby lashley why the heck has it taken so long to put him out he came back after wrestlemania last year and look how they booked look at Ronda rousey had a match at wrestlemania last year and her figure came out buy the end of the year Bobby is still there and his figure is just being released and where is Ronda off TV You answered your own question when you provided the example of your kids begging for another Braun. Ronda’s first figure A wasn’t great and clearly a rush job, B she debuted at the rumble, C I am sure she was signed months before that and they knew it would be a huge deal and got to work early on the figure. Depending on parts a figure takes a year-year and a half. Same for Marvel etc. You didnt read it right cause I didnt answer my question yes kids want them is not saying parents buy them that's why all the AJs and Roman's etc are still warming the shelf cause people are tired of buying them so why keep making the same figure when there are others to make. and I'm sure wwe had been talking to Bobby for awhile about a deal cause they had to wait for his contract to be up with impact. they use most of the same parts they already have it shouldn't take a year to do a head mold for a figure
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Post by hitmancmedge on Jun 14, 2019 10:07:37 GMT -5
You answered your own question when you provided the example of your kids begging for another Braun. Ronda’s first figure A wasn’t great and clearly a rush job, B she debuted at the rumble, C I am sure she was signed months before that and they knew it would be a huge deal and got to work early on the figure. Depending on parts a figure takes a year-year and a half. Same for Marvel etc. You didnt read it right cause I didnt answer my question yes kids want them is not saying parents buy them that's why all the AJs and Roman's etc are still warming the shelf cause people are tired of buying them so why keep making the same figure when there are others to make. and I'm sure wwe had been talking to Bobby for awhile about a deal cause they had to wait for his contract to be up with impact. they use most of the same parts they already have it shouldn't take a year to do a head mold for a figure Well it does take a year....the reason the marvel and Star Wars movies get their figures out at movie time is they have the sketches over a year in advance. One of the big things people are upset about is the suits on the new avengers figures are silver instead of white because the original design had silver but it got changed to white in post production. That is just how long toys take.
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Post by PJ on Jun 14, 2019 11:05:00 GMT -5
The only Elite I see hanging around at the three area WalMarts is Galliger(?) the guy with the umbrella there 2 at one WalMart and that is it between the three WalMarts. Just two Elites since they got rid of their WM displays. The four Targets have still been getting Elites and have restock E64-e66 multiple times and none sit long. Yes they all have a few of the B/O Styles. But that’s what the B/O line is intended to do. Because there’s new kids/fans every day getting their first. And while some here say they won’t buy their kids a second Styles/Strowman/etc there’s way more parents who will.
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Post by finnbalor1 on Jun 14, 2019 15:13:56 GMT -5
Most parents has no idea that they're buying their kids the same Braun or Roman they just know the kids want it so they buy it no matter how many of the same Roman they have.
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Post by Elitemainia on Jun 14, 2019 15:56:02 GMT -5
Most parents has no idea that they're buying their kids the same Braun or Roman they just know the kids want it so they buy it no matter how many of the same Roman they have. Most parents watch wrestling so I'm sure they know who there buying why else would the kid know who the wrestlers are if the parents didnt watch it
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Post by PJ on Jun 14, 2019 17:02:25 GMT -5
When my daughter was growing up I knew two parents who watched wrestling. Almost all of the others said that they hadn’t watched it since the 80’s yet all their kids had and or played with them.
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Post by Elitemainia on Jun 14, 2019 18:03:08 GMT -5
When my daughter was growing up I knew two parents who watched wrestling. Almost all of the others said that they hadn’t watched it since the 80’s yet all their kids had and or played with them. My kids are still young and all there friends parents still watch wrestling and I can't count how many parents watch it cause theres so many we have gone to raw with so many other kids and there parents so I'm not sure what your trying to say
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Post by Kill Em' All on Jun 14, 2019 18:11:17 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind if we got repaint or a rerelease of Vader...
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Post by alphadeltaxray on Jun 14, 2019 18:41:36 GMT -5
If wwe would book the talent better then we could get better guys but at the same time My Walmart has 6 nakamura warming the shelf with 4 AJs all I hear from people is they sell and kids buy them yes its true kids do want them but when Mattel puts the same guys In every series the parents get tired of buying the same figures of the same guys I know cause I'm one of those parents I collect figures myself and my kids ask for guys I already bought them I tell them no because I done bought that same Braun last series I'm not buying another one just because it's in a different package or comes with a Stretcher etc. So I hear people say the same at other walmarts and targets with the Same guys warming the shelf so clearly they are not selling as good as you might think kids do want the people they see on TV but my God there are other people on TV other then AJ,Braun, seth ,Roman etc another problem is Mattel is so damn slow at putting guys out that by the time they do make them they are hurt or wwe stops pushing them look at Bobby lashley why the heck has it taken so long to put him out he came back after wrestlemania last year and look how they booked look at Ronda rousey had a match at wrestlemania last year and her figure came out buy the end of the year Bobby is still there and his figure is just being released and where is Ronda off TV Very well said, and excellent insight! You basically said everything i forgot to say.
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Post by alphadeltaxray on Jun 14, 2019 18:42:03 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind if we got repaint or a rerelease of Vader... Any Vader would fly off the shelves, I think.
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Post by alphadeltaxray on Jun 14, 2019 18:59:21 GMT -5
No one said to stop making them. Even if they made them every other series they would always till be easily retainable in stores. Besides, He-Man was a totally different thing than WWE. WWE has hundreds or more wrestlers past and present that everyone wants to see made. And the fact that we get a brand new series every few weeks means they can make more of just about anyone they are allowed to. I like the idea of series 67 and 69. They seem to be the hottest sellers lately, especially on RSC. Why? Because it's basically a whole new wave of figures many of which we haven't seen yet and everyone's excited for them. Shayna Baszler, Velveteen Dream, Ricochet, Ali, Lashley. And 68 had Mabel, which people are still going crazy for. You don't see anyone talking about the new 2019 Top Picks at all, though. Imagine an entire series of figures such as King Mabel? Or even 2 series' with figures such as Haku, Hercules, Hollywood Hogan? It would be one of the biggest sellers to date. Ringside caters to the niche, hardcore collector audience. As for why every series has at least 1-2 “top guys” it’s because Mattel/WWE/stores want versions of those guys on shelves at all times. Like, to them the fact that people claim that their Wal-Mart always has AJ (or whoever) on the shelf isn’t a bad thing. It’s generally what they’re going for. Well, here's my point. All of these are still in most stores, give or take. But I can vouch that between 2 Walmarts and 2 Targets near me, all of these are warming the shelves at at least 1 of these stores (except 97 because it'snot in retail yet): AJ Styles Basic: 95, 97, Top Talent 2018, Top Talent 2019 AJ Styles Elite: Top Talent 2018, Top Talent 2019, Elite 66. That's, count em, 7 figures of AJ Styles that were all released in close proximity of each other. And that's what Im talking about. No one minds seeing 1, 2, or sometimes even 3 AJ figures. But even die hard fans must get sick of buying the same figure over and over and over again. The 2018 Top Talent Finn Balor looks identical to the 2019 TT except for his knee pads. I doubt even the biggest collectors are going to buy the same figure because of different knee pads.
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Post by Elitemainia on Jun 14, 2019 19:20:47 GMT -5
Well, here's my point. All of these are still in most stores, give or take. But I can vouch that between 2 Walmarts and 2 Targets near me, all of these are warming the shelves at at least 1 of these stores (except 97 because it'snot in retail yet): AJ Styles Basic: 95, 97, Top Talent 2018, Top Talent 2019 AJ Styles Elite: Top Talent 2018, Top Talent 2019, Elite 66.
That's, count em, 7 figures of AJ Styles that were all released in close proximity of each other. And that's what Im talking about. No one minds seeing 1, 2, or sometimes even 3 AJ figures. But even die hard fans must get sick of buying the same figure over and over and over again.
The 2018 Top Talent Finn Balor looks identical to the 2019 TT except for his knee pads. I doubt even the biggest collectors are going to buy the same figure because of different knee pads. [/quote]
My man you know exactly what your talking about I'm so glad someone else understands what i been saying.these people on here talking like these figures are flying off the shelf if that was true why are they still there.i mean there are 7 Walmart and 2 targets around me and all I see is the same figures all I would like to see is different guys in a series instead of the same ones
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Post by PJ on Jun 14, 2019 19:54:23 GMT -5
When my daughter was growing up I knew two parents who watched wrestling. Almost all of the others said that they hadn’t watched it since the 80’s yet all their kids had and or played with them. My kids are still young and all there friends parents still watch wrestling and I can't count how many parents watch it cause theres so many we have gone to raw with so many other kids and there parents so I'm not sure what your trying to say I am saying just because kids are watching it doesn’t mean their parents do. Ringside caters to the niche, hardcore collector audience. As for why every series has at least 1-2 “top guys” it’s because Mattel/WWE/stores want versions of those guys on shelves at all times. Like, to them the fact that people claim that their Wal-Mart always has AJ (or whoever) on the shelf isn’t a bad thing. It’s generally what they’re going for. Well, here's my point. All of these are still in most stores, give or take. But I can vouch that between 2 Walmarts and 2 Targets near me, all of these are warming the shelves at at least 1 of these stores (except 97 because it'snot in retail yet): AJ Styles Basic: 95, 97, Top Talent 2018, Top Talent 2019 AJ Styles Elite: Top Talent 2018, Top Talent 2019, Elite 66. That's, count em, 7 figures of AJ Styles that were all released in close proximity of each other. And that's what Im talking about. No one minds seeing 1, 2, or sometimes even 3 AJ figures. But even die hard fans must get sick of buying the same figure over and over and over again. The 2018 Top Talent Finn Balor looks identical to the 2019 TT except for his knee pads. I doubt even the biggest collectors are going to buy the same figure because of different knee pads. You have TT 2019 on the pegs already? We haven’t gotten an Elite around here since Walmart had the WM display. And the area Target have only gotten E63-E66 and NXT 4 and the only ones from E66 that are backing up are Harper and Rowen. Yes the three Targets still have a few Top Picks 2018 Styles on the pegs. And 2018 Balor is the WM Gay Pride (Balor Club is for everybody) attire. And the 2019 Balor is the GRR(?) PPV silver trunks. And yes that is a figure I am really looking forward to.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Jun 14, 2019 20:27:01 GMT -5
My kids are still young and all there friends parents still watch wrestling and I can't count how many parents watch it cause theres so many we have gone to raw with so many other kids and there parents so I'm not sure what your trying to say I am saying just because kids are watching it doesn’t mean their parents do. Well, here's my point. All of these are still in most stores, give or take. But I can vouch that between 2 Walmarts and 2 Targets near me, all of these are warming the shelves at at least 1 of these stores (except 97 because it'snot in retail yet): AJ Styles Basic: 95, 97, Top Talent 2018, Top Talent 2019 AJ Styles Elite: Top Talent 2018, Top Talent 2019, Elite 66. That's, count em, 7 figures of AJ Styles that were all released in close proximity of each other. And that's what Im talking about. No one minds seeing 1, 2, or sometimes even 3 AJ figures. But even die hard fans must get sick of buying the same figure over and over and over again. The 2018 Top Talent Finn Balor looks identical to the 2019 TT except for his knee pads. I doubt even the biggest collectors are going to buy the same figure because of different knee pads. You have TT 2019 on the pegs already? We haven’t gotten an Elite around here since Walmart had the WM display. And the area Target have only gotten E63-E66 and NXT 4 and the only ones from E66 that are backing up are Harper and Rowen. Yes the three Targets still have a few Top Picks 2018 Styles on the pegs. And 2018 Balor is the WM Gay Pride (Balor Club is for everybody) attire. And the 2019 Balor is the GRR(?) PPV silver trunks. And yes that is a figure I am really looking forward to. Man you have been here long enough to know people say whatever they want to say to make their narrative work. I hunt in PA, NJ, and DE and I don’t see anything but Aj, and took a trip to Virginia and Maryland and stopped a few places and saw the same exact. No Finn, no Seth, no Braun. To me seems like in 90% of the areas, the top talents did exactly what they were suppose to do, just should heavy pack any of them.
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Post by Elitemainia on Jun 14, 2019 20:59:09 GMT -5
Man you have been here long enough to know people say whatever they want to say to make their narrative work. I hunt in PA, NJ, and DE and I don’t see anything but Aj, and took a trip to Virginia and Maryland and stopped a few places and saw the same exact. No Finn, no Seth, no Braun. To me seems like in 90% of the areas, the top talents did exactly what they were suppose to do, just should heavy pack any of them.[/quote]
I wouldn't say it did 90% of what it was supposed to more like 50% but I'm really tied of agueing so I'm leaving it at this most people can't get the figures they really want due to those warming the shelf for Example the store want restock the shelf until the ones they have clear out by then they want get certain series because of those shelf warmers. because Mattel makes the same figures in most every set that comes out so the store Exclusives don't get shipped to certain stores because they skip series due to the same figures sitting on the shelf just look at Mattel's stock that says it all so clearly there ideas are not working.
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