rateddal
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Post by rateddal on May 11, 2020 19:57:56 GMT -5
I believe Greg Valentine and Barry Horowitz were two of them. Correct.Jeff Gaylord of USWA fame was the 3rd one.
Looking back it was easy to tell the Blue Knight was Greg Valentine by just looking at his physique and how he wrestled.
Speaking of Greg Valentine, how bout a future discussion of his feud with Rugged Ronnie Garvin. I thought it was one of the best feuds ever between 2 midcarders going absolutely nowhere. Hell I never was a fan of either guy but I was invested in their story. |
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nibs92
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Post by nibs92 on May 11, 2020 20:15:47 GMT -5
I loved it when Lawler claimed he was injured at SummerSlam. You could tell he was lying but somehow told his story with conviction. And the Doink match wasn’t the worst I have seen. Loved the Knights as well although would have been so much better with the King, rather than Shawn Michaels. I remember the wondering of who the Knights were. I was never into Power Rangers, but their action figures made a good addition as the knights to my Hasbro fed (with a bit of imagination!) I believe Greg Valentine and Barry Horowitz were two of them. I was 13 at the time and remember hoping that the knights would be revealed and that it would be someone like Rick Rude or Haku. Oh to be young and naive again!! |
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Post by MKSavage on May 11, 2020 22:20:07 GMT -5
Correct.Jeff Gaylord of USWA fame was the 3rd one.
Looking back it was easy to tell the Blue Knight was Greg Valentine by just looking at his physique and how he wrestled.
Speaking of Greg Valentine, how bout a future discussion of his feud with Rugged Ronnie Garvin. I thought it was one of the best feuds ever between 2 midcarders going absolutely nowhere. Hell I never was a fan of either guy but I was invested in their story. Seconded. A very good low/mid card feud. |
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Post by MKSavage on May 11, 2020 22:21:10 GMT -5
I believe Greg Valentine and Barry Horowitz were two of them. Correct.Jeff Gaylord of USWA fame was the 3rd one.
Looking back it was easy to tell the Blue Knight was Greg Valentine by just looking at his physique and how he wrestled.
For some reason I always thought one of them was Kato (Paul Diamond). |
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Post by hbkjason on May 12, 2020 2:18:57 GMT -5
Another suggestion for a feud if you are looking for a shorter one, how about Shawn Michaels vs Rick Martel from 1992? Was kind of strange to have a heel vs heel thing going during those days.
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Post by The Brain on May 12, 2020 16:54:02 GMT -5
Upcoming feuds to be discussed...
Hogan/Bundy
Bret/Razor
Garvin/Valentine
HBK/Martel
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Post by alexxx on May 12, 2020 22:51:13 GMT -5
Can you add to the list Lex Luger vs Tatanka please
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Post by The Brain on May 12, 2020 22:57:29 GMT -5
Can you add to the list Lex Luger vs Tatanka please I sure can |
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Post by The Brain on May 13, 2020 16:10:09 GMT -5
Hulk Hogan vs King Kong Bundy 
Bundy's push to the top would begin at the first Mania in which he squashed SD Jones in ''9 seconds''. In reality it was near 30 seconds.They kept building him up strong the entire year of 85 as his first major feud was with Andre in which he would kayfabe crack his sternum. It was also around this time Bobby Heenan became his manager after taking over for Jimmy Hart. LOVED this pairing. His sights on Hogan would come that November on SNME in which him and Studd would take on Hogan and Andre in a big tag match.
From there the next big feud for the World Title was set in motion. Prior to Mania II, Bundy would attack Hogan during his match with Don Muraco on SNME. Hogan sold it perfectly here. Something he was always good at.
The big showdown would happen at WM in a cage in which Hogan would prevail in the end.Elvira on commentary during this was terrible ughhh.
This would end the feud but they would still interact later in the year with both being on opposite sides at the first SSeries(Team Andre from this event is my fav team in events history) 
The last two times they would collide on TV were on SNME in November 87 and January 88 respectively.
Overall...Bundy was never gonna win the big one sadly but I'm glad he got his monster push during this era.Again gotta give Hogan credit for his selling during these big man feuds. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2020 19:49:23 GMT -5
To truly sell the Bundy and Morocco beatdown Hogan should have not even worked house shows between then and WM 2.
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Post by nibs92 on May 14, 2020 0:46:32 GMT -5
Brilliant! Excellent selling on the Hogan attack by all concerned. Heenan doing his usual magic when Hulk was after him, Jesse and McMahon doing a sterling job on commentary. I loved it when the faces come running out, the heels casually leave the ring.
On a side note I loved Bundy’s five count gimmick.
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Post by The Brain on May 14, 2020 1:44:32 GMT -5
Always got a kick outta Gorilla calling Bundy the ''Condominium with legs''
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Post by hbkjason on May 14, 2020 4:32:00 GMT -5
They did such a good job in making Bundy seem like a legit monster. As a kid I missed his initial run, but I enjoyed him on the different WWF VHS tapes over the year. So much so that I was excited when he was brought back in the mid 90's, but man did he suck when he returned lol.
Also, it is interesting to read people write about "selling" I did not really appreciate it until a few years back, but when Hulk Hogan actually put effort into making an opponent look like a legit threat he did an amazing job and it is something he does not get the credit he deserves for.
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Post by The Brain on May 14, 2020 5:37:38 GMT -5
They did such a good job in making Bundy seem like a legit monster. As a kid I missed his initial run, but I enjoyed him on the different WWF VHS tapes over the year. So much so that I was excited when he was brought back in the mid 90's, but man did he suck when he returned lol.Also, it is interesting to read people write about "selling" I did not really appreciate it until a few years back, but when Hulk Hogan actually put effort into making an opponent look like a legit threat he did an amazing job and it is something he does not get the credit he deserves for. Yeah guys like him and Volkoff looked so outta place during that era. |
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Post by The Brain on May 15, 2020 15:34:38 GMT -5
Bret Hart vs Razor Ramon 
This feud would begin in late 92 on an episode of Superstars in which both Razor and Flair would attack Bret on the ol' classic interview platform.Mr .Perfect would come to his aid as he was feuding with both heels at the time.It was after this in which Razor was awarded a title shot at the Rumble in January.
Things would get personal real quick as Razor would attack Owen Hart on the first episode of WWF Mania. '' did your daddy teach ya that one mang?'' Heel Razor was great here.
He would go on to brag about it on the first episode of Raw...
The match itself at the Rumble was very good I thought.Both guys blended well together and we got a nice hidden gem in the process.
This would end the feud but they would meet again at the KOTR in a match that was better than this one IMO.
Overall.....Short feud here but enjoyable. I really liked heel Razor during this time period.Shame he didn't have a longer run in that role.Bret as always was on point. |
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Post by MKSavage on May 15, 2020 19:36:35 GMT -5
Nice mini feud, both guys worked well together. However, I still think Bret should have faced Flair at RR93. Let the audience see Bret beating Flair in a main event match to prove that his first win wasn't a fluke. I think it would have helped Bret a little more, going over a bigger name at a marque event. They still could have set up the Flair/Perfect feud, have Razor come down and attack Bret during the match then have Perfect come down and help Bret which would ultimately lead Bret to a victory over Flair. Then during the Rumble, Flair could come down and distract Perfect causing someone to eliminate him thus costing him the title shot at WM9. This would set up the loser leave town match they had anyways on Raw. To still get a match out of Bret and Razor, since Razor interfered in the Royal Rumble match, have Bret and Razor face each other on an episode of Raw, build it up and make it seem important, kind of like a SNME match.
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Post by The Brain on May 15, 2020 20:06:58 GMT -5
Nice mini feud, both guys worked well together. However, I still think Bret should have faced Flair at RR93. Let the audience see Bret beating Flair in a main event match to prove that his first win wasn't a fluke. I think it would have helped Bret a little more, going over a bigger name at a marque event. They still could have set up the Flair/Perfect feud, have Razor come down and attack Bret during the match then have Perfect come down and help Bret which would ultimately lead Bret to a victory over Flair. Then during the Rumble, Flair could come down and distract Perfect causing someone to eliminate him thus costing him the title shot at WM9. This would set up the loser leave town match they had anyways on Raw. To still get a match out of Bret and Razor, since Razor interfered in the Royal Rumble match, have Bret and Razor face each other on an episode of Raw, build it up and make it seem important, kind of like a SNME match. Yeah it's a shame they never got a feud going between the two. All they did was tease it with Flair saying how he'll get the belt back and the attack with Razor on Superstars.
A submission match(sharpshooter vs figure four) at the Rumble for the belt would've been ideal.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2020 22:39:12 GMT -5
Yeah this feud didn’t last long, but I liked it. Razor beating on Owen was a good way to add heat to their match. I don’t remember which episode of superstars it was but I liked when Razor told Bret in that Cuban accent “I slapped your little brother around and when I see your father, I’m gonna slap him around too”. Something like that. Razor as a heel was awesome!
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2020 14:26:33 GMT -5
Can you do Undertaker vs HBK early 2009 that culminated in one of the best wrestlemania matches ever at WM 25?
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Post by The Brain on May 18, 2020 16:41:06 GMT -5
Can you do Undertaker vs HBK early 2009 that culminated in one of the best wrestlemania matches ever at WM 25? You're in luck, I stopped watching in late 08 but I do remember this feud as I did watch the Mania match.I remember checking out a good chunk of the build on YouTube back during that time period so I think I can cook up an entry for this one. |
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