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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 10, 2021 11:04:12 GMT -5
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 12, 2021 8:08:20 GMT -5
He’s had the same gimmick for decades now, he’s just an internet heel these days because he cries about AEW as well as WWE. The “Kevin Dunn Bad” hivemind opinion that’s still rife in 2021 comes directly from early 2000s Jim Cornette shoot interviews. He’s hated all wrestling since about 1989, except for whichever promotion is paying him at the time. He can be fun to listen to, but for every valid criticism he makes, he’ll follow it up with some nonsense that’s just an old man wanting everything like it was when he was growing up. It’s fairly human nature - look at all the times on here that people ask for the titles, brand splits, PPV schedules, PPV names, factions etc to go back to the ones from when they were kids. Cornette just frames it in an entertaining rant. If you’re a fan of a modern wrestling show and you get butthurt easily, avoid his podcasts.
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Post by X-27 on Jul 12, 2021 8:18:24 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever heard him say anything positive about someone who isn't the Midnight Express, Vader or Bret.
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Post by celflessness on Jul 17, 2021 13:52:01 GMT -5
I really like Cornette's podcasts and think a lot of his critiques are valuable. Comparing and contrasting modern spots/angles to how they used to be performed is really interesting to me, and I think modern wrestlers can learn a thing or two from those. Just the nuances that have been lost over time.
While I'm generally 60-40 in agreement with him regarding AEW (I watched for a year. It's fine) the rants do get repetitive, particularly in regards to the wrestlers he's completely written off. So I wish he'd review AEW less and focus more on the classic wrestling he actually likes. Because there's value there. And positivity. It's just surrounded by negativity that will cause the people who could benefit from it to turn off.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Jul 20, 2021 11:36:34 GMT -5
Does it matter? No, not really. AEW is on fire, so Cornette’s criticism (some of which is valid) does not appear to be the common sentiment. I love AEW, and I love listening to Corny scream and complain. I take it as entertainment, whether he is being 100% candid or not. I definitely agree with some of it. The truth is that the business has evolved. For better or worse, this is the business now. For better or worse Kenny Olivier is more relevant than Corny. The reason that I prefer AEW to other organizations is because they are using some of that old school magic and treating legends with reverence rather than pigeonholing them into positions that they really just shouldn’t be in. Whatever Cornette may think, what AEW is doing is clearly working - and this is coming from a big Cornette fan.
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Post by The Shiniest Wizard on Jul 20, 2021 12:22:33 GMT -5
To this day I still feel like Cornette knows the character he is and is pushing it hard. I don't think anyone could be THAT negative and be around wrestling as much as he has. I feel like he is pushing this character to the extreme for podcast clicks and whatnot. Which is really unfortunate because I feel like in his pounds and pounds of BS that he spews, there is usually a grain of something useful. If he was able to take that "hate" that he has for modern day pro wrestling and find a way to educate newer people on how to mix that old style with the more modern new style, it could lead to something great. Oh well.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Jul 27, 2021 19:59:15 GMT -5
The only part of all this Cornette stuff I don’t understand is why Cornette doesn’t just do all this in front of a camera. To me, that’s a great wrestling heel and it harkens back to the time Cornette loves. REAL HEAT! He really DOES hate AEW, so grab a team of wrestlers that he does like, have them wrestle an old school style, and be heels! It’s money, why doesn’t he see this?
He’s making money being a gimmick online though and he knows what he’s doing. If this was 10 years ago, I think Cornette would be doing this in front of a camera.
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Post by Randolph J 'Hurricane' Spencer on Jul 27, 2021 21:21:22 GMT -5
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Jul 29, 2021 16:11:34 GMT -5
Cornette is more relevant today then hes ever been. Any time anything happens in the wrestling business, go to twitter and youll see tons of "cant wait for cornette to talk about this"....the fact that so many AEW wrestlers lose their crapand get in war of words with him alone shows how relevant he is. Irrelevant people do not garner the attention he does, good or bad. the people who hate him will run to twitter and say hes "irrelevant" failing to realize theyre talking about him to do so. Its amusing.
People loved when hed go on rants about Dunn and Russo....now that its about wrestlers they like its a problem. Cornette is the most entertaining human in wrestling and has been for a long time. he makes a ton of money from sitting in his house and speaking his mind. dude is living the life.
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Post by Odafin Tutuola on Jul 29, 2021 17:23:57 GMT -5
Cornette is more relevant today then hes ever been. Any time anything happens in the wrestling business, go to twitter and youll see tons of "cant wait for cornette to talk about this"....the fact that so many AEW wrestlers lose their crap and get in war of words with him alone shows how relevant he is. Irrelevant people do not garner the attention he does, good or bad. the people who hate him will run to twitter and say hes "irrelevant" failing to realize theyre talking about him to do so. Its amusing. People loved when hed go on rants about Dunn and Russo....now that its about wrestlers they like its a problem. Cornette is the most entertaining human in wrestling and has been for a long time. he makes a ton of money from sitting in his house and speaking his mind. dude is living the life. I agree with that. Some AEW superstars and fans David Meltzer can't take any of his criticism well. |
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Post by KRAYZIE BONE on Jul 29, 2021 17:28:27 GMT -5
Cornette is more relevant today then hes ever been. Any time anything happens in the wrestling business, go to twitter and youll see tons of "cant wait for cornette to talk about this"....the fact that so many AEW wrestlers lose their crap and get in war of words with him alone shows how relevant he is. Irrelevant people do not garner the attention he does, good or bad. the people who hate him will run to twitter and say hes "irrelevant" failing to realize theyre talking about him to do so. Its amusing. People loved when hed go on rants about Dunn and Russo....now that its about wrestlers they like its a problem. Cornette is the most entertaining human in wrestling and has been for a long time. he makes a ton of money from sitting in his house and speaking his mind. dude is living the life. I agree with that. Some AEW superstars and fans David Meltzer can't take any of his criticism well. They know his opinions matter and hold alot of weight. So they let it get to them. |
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Post by Kill Em' All on Jul 29, 2021 17:35:44 GMT -5
Him, Russo and Dave Meltzer I could really could give f**k what they say
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Post by Kill Em' All on Jul 29, 2021 17:36:19 GMT -5
For proof of how out of touch he is, just watch his version of booking the Invasion angle. That was garbage |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2021 18:35:05 GMT -5
Him, Russo and Dave Meltzer I could really could give f**k what they say I get a kick out of Russo, because his ideas are so bad it becomes like a weird parody. I don't take any of it remotely seriously, but it's good for a laugh. I used to really like listening to Meltzer, but he's flown the cuckoo's nest the last 6 months and I can't tolerate him anymore. |
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Post by K5 on Jul 29, 2021 20:44:32 GMT -5
Cornette is more relevant today then hes ever been. Any time anything happens in the wrestling business, go to twitter and youll see tons of "cant wait for cornette to talk about this"....the fact that so many AEW wrestlers lose their crap and get in war of words with him alone shows how relevant he is. Irrelevant people do not garner the attention he does, good or bad. the people who hate him will run to twitter and say hes "irrelevant" failing to realize theyre talking about him to do so. Its amusing. People loved when hed go on rants about Dunn and Russo....now that its about wrestlers they like its a problem. Cornette is the most entertaining human in wrestling and has been for a long time. he makes a ton of money from sitting in his house and speaking his mind. dude is living the life. relevant to pro wrestling pop culture, irrelevant to the matters of modern wrestling and it’s fans. |
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Post by Sizzle on Jul 29, 2021 20:48:33 GMT -5
The short answer is no.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on Jul 29, 2021 22:50:53 GMT -5
I’ll tell you one thing, he’s going to have a field day with the main event. Bonus points for the Domino’s Pizza ad pull fiasco.
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Post by rkmo: Autonomous Meat Shield on Jul 30, 2021 1:45:22 GMT -5
I’ll tell you one thing, he’s going to have a field day with the main event. Bonus points for the Domino’s Pizza ad pull fiasco. Like he needed it. |
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Post by PJ on Jul 30, 2021 5:34:57 GMT -5
Well I don’t listen to any podcasts or read any dirt sheets so so I don’t know what they are. But I will say this at the end of the day even if they are the same as mine I don’t care what they are. The only criticism and opinions I care about are mine. Just like the only ones you should care about are yours.
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Jul 30, 2021 15:34:39 GMT -5
Well I don’t listen to any podcasts or read any dirt sheets so so I don’t know what they are. But I will say this at the end of the day even if they are the same as mine I don’t care what they are. The only criticism and opinions I care about are mine. Just like the only ones you should care about are yours. And you can hear others opinion and maybe take something from that, otherwise why are we all on a forum? haha right? But yea, obviously you feel the way you do for a reason but at the same time, I don’t mind hearing somebody else’s opinion and sometimes I’ll relate or learn something. |
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