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Post by rkmo: Autonomous Meat Shield on Mar 4, 2022 12:09:31 GMT -5
Yeah but whenever a complaint pops up addressing an inaccuracy, a spreadsheet convenience, or even difficulty in buying in store/online:
"They're child's play things lulz"
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Post by tdoggpsu on Mar 4, 2022 12:17:33 GMT -5
There's a certain saturation point where I just lose interest. And $25 might just be it. I collect a pretty wide range - legends, NXT, and some current roster guys. But at this point I have a figure of just about everybody I want on the main roster, I have zero interest in buying NXT 2.0 figures, and almost every legend we get is a repaint. At $20, or even $22, I'll make some stretch purchases and buy a figure I don't love on a whim. That isn't going to happen at $25, even if I can afford the price hike. I was a pretty active Marvel Legends collector, but haven't bought a single figure that wasn't on clearance since the raised the price. The value just isn't there for me. I think Mattel is really overestimating their market. They're focused on short term margins, potentially at the expense of losing a good chunk of overall volume. If hardcore collectors are rethinking, I'd imagine the casual mom buying for her kid is going to have the same reaction. Crazy how so many people talk as if Mattel has a diabolical plot to stash hoards of cash through unnecessary price increases (“focused on short term margins”). It couldn’t POSSIBLY be that they’re seeing increased costs the same as everybody else and are focused on the long term viability of the line and the company!
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Post by tdoggpsu on Mar 4, 2022 12:19:05 GMT -5
whoever is in charge of ing over all of us by raising prices on "materials" for no reason, can seriously get ed. this sh*t makes no sense. why are they doing this? oh that's right, to make up for lost profits during a global pandemic? or is it because china decided they can double the cost of goods and we'll still bend over to pay for it? or is it the classic "well, everyone is making more money now so....inflation"? maybe its "because stuff is sitting in containers in the pacific ocean"? or how about "well everyone got a bunch of free money over 2 years ago sooooo....."? oh, now its "well, Russia invaded Ukraine so...better raise those fuel prices!" funny how I haven't seen or heard anything about those massive west coast port supply chain/container issues in months. plenty of people are working. this whole thing is a ing joke. this country is a joke, this economy is a joke. and there's nothing any of us can do about it except stop buying stuff...which is never going to happen because all these toy/collectible companies already have us addicted and most people will never be able to break it. “These toy/collectible companies already have us addicted and most people will never be able to break it” is your excuse for so many just HAVE to continue buying no matter what?
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Post by NoseBleedcollectibles on Mar 4, 2022 12:29:20 GMT -5
Only collect flashbacks and there’s hardly get any in the elite line, so won’t affect too much
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Post by azraelms on Mar 4, 2022 13:19:56 GMT -5
Yeah, already downgrading the amount I buy too, and will be extremely downgrading again when they go up to $25. I suspect that will close off a number of the sublimes - and Legends could die again because of that. Seem plenty of Legends 13 clogging shelves now, and suspect that partially is due to the higher price, and partially due to the choice of wrestlers. We will see how this goes over the next year.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Mar 4, 2022 13:33:24 GMT -5
In Canada, Elites launched back in 2010 at $22.99, and currently are $29.99. I expect them to go up a few more dollars this summer. Power Rangers Lightning Collection figures just went up in price recently from $29.99 to $32.99, so maybe that's where Elites will end up here as well. Everyone is being affected by the pandemic and this Russia/Ukraine conflict. The pandemic and Ukrainian conflict are excuses to nickel and dime customers and everyone knows it. Corporations are making more money than ever
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Post by hitmancmedge on Mar 4, 2022 13:35:04 GMT -5
In Canada, Elites launched back in 2010 at $22.99, and currently are $29.99. I expect them to go up a few more dollars this summer. Power Rangers Lightning Collection figures just went up in price recently from $29.99 to $32.99, so maybe that's where Elites will end up here as well. Everyone is being affected by the pandemic and this Russia/Ukraine conflict. The pandemic and Ukrainian conflict are excuses to nickel and dime customers and everyone knows it. Corporations are making more money than ever My company literally had record profits in 2021 and every quarter had a record quarter.
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Mar 4, 2022 13:36:43 GMT -5
The pandemic and Ukrainian conflict are excuses to nickel and dime customers and everyone knows it. Corporations are making more money than ever My company literally had record profits in 2021 and every quarter had a record quarter. Exactly, profits are soaring and wages have been stagnant since WWE went HD
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Post by newgenandy on Mar 4, 2022 14:03:19 GMT -5
We (UK) already pay £19.99 - approx. $26.60 USD... They've already started to go up in one major UK retailer, now £25, so around $32. With the quality getting worse with some figures then this could mean I become very selective with what I buy. Yeah, that's crazy. I think it's only Smyths though with the PPV Elites... the standard Elites are still £19.99. We need to not buy them at £24.99, or this will soon become the norm... the PPV Elites are nearly always reduced anyway (...Dakota and Yoko are already down to £19.99). The ppv elites are £20 in entertainer - smyths used to be so much cheaper than the entertainer
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Post by DZ: WF Legacy on Mar 4, 2022 16:29:25 GMT -5
Happening across the board. Two price hikes in such a short time is going to hurt all brands, especially ones that are already struggling. I don't know how Basics will go on without a price-point change.
It's a pretty safe prediction that by the end of this decade, action figures at large will be collector-based lines aimed at adults who have the spare income for it. I think toys will certainly still exist, though the division on what is targeting single-digit-kids-only will be clearer. It's just not cost-effective anymore to do detailed 6" figures at a price most people are willing to pay at whim at the grocery store for their child. Birthday and Christmas gifts are one thing, but inexpensive toys you randomly pick up while shopping for other goods have that impulsive role in retail, which is why they want them so much and have that edict for Mattel and other manufacturers. As time goes on, that probably also means a tighter selection of what makes it to retail and what remains online-only, which means if it's an online-only future for certain lines, even MORE expensive prices since manufacturing at a lower volume = higher cost to the consumer.
Hard to believe that Elites and Legends began at $15, and that was considered to be a bit expensive at the time since it was more than CS...
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Post by stc13 on Mar 4, 2022 16:34:06 GMT -5
There's a certain saturation point where I just lose interest. And $25 might just be it. I collect a pretty wide range - legends, NXT, and some current roster guys. But at this point I have a figure of just about everybody I want on the main roster, I have zero interest in buying NXT 2.0 figures, and almost every legend we get is a repaint. At $20, or even $22, I'll make some stretch purchases and buy a figure I don't love on a whim. That isn't going to happen at $25, even if I can afford the price hike. I was a pretty active Marvel Legends collector, but haven't bought a single figure that wasn't on clearance since the raised the price. The value just isn't there for me. I think Mattel is really overestimating their market. They're focused on short term margins, potentially at the expense of losing a good chunk of overall volume. If hardcore collectors are rethinking, I'd imagine the casual mom buying for her kid is going to have the same reaction. Crazy how so many people talk as if Mattel has a diabolical plot to stash hoards of cash through unnecessary price increases (“focused on short term margins”). It couldn’t POSSIBLY be that they’re seeing increased costs the same as everybody else and are focused on the long term viability of the line and the company! They're certainly seeing increased costs, as all industries are. Their choice is to eat those costs, take a smaller profit margin and hope to maintain the volume of sales, adjust their budget and maintain the same price point, or to pass costs to the consumer in order to preserve their target margins and probably see a decrease in sales. That's a decision that companies make every day. It's a choice. It doesn't mean their choice will turn out the be the correct one. Toys are a luxury item, and two price hikes within 12 months will definitely have an impact on sales volume that could be greater than the revenue they would lose by taking a smaller profit margin.
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Post by rastlinfigures on Mar 4, 2022 16:34:28 GMT -5
If they get that high in the U.S., I may have to consider limiting what types of figures I collect - maybe only Legends, or at least Legends and only first time in the line figures.
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Post by JC Motors on Mar 4, 2022 17:02:36 GMT -5
I work at Dollar Tree we had to raise our prices to $1.25
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Post by iamcline on Mar 4, 2022 17:11:58 GMT -5
At $25 I'm out on Elites/AEW. The amount of figures I buy monthly wouldn't be justifiable at that price point. Ya'll think RSC prices are high on some items now, just wait. It hits EVERYONE.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Mar 4, 2022 17:30:06 GMT -5
It’s just a crazy time right now. Everything is getting expensive.
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Post by LA Times on Mar 4, 2022 17:33:13 GMT -5
I work at Dollar Tree we had to raise our prices to $1.25 They should change their name to Buck and a Quarter Tree.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2022 17:40:59 GMT -5
Yeah but whenever a complaint pops up addressing an inaccuracy, a spreadsheet convenience, or even difficulty in buying in store/online: "They're child's play things lulz" Exactly the point. Paying $25 for a toy that is mostly directed towards children is asinine. These aren’t Hot Toys, or NECA… these are kids toys. Hence why most believe they aren’t worth the $25-30+ price point.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Mar 4, 2022 18:06:27 GMT -5
Some of these reactions are just laughable.
First off, we are still feeling the effects of the pandemic and prices will always go up at a time of war. That is just a fact. Prices will only go up further if we get involved. Let’s hope that we don’t get involved. That’s what is most important here.
Second, people need to stop blaming Mattel directly. What do you expect them to do? Eat the extra cost? You simply do not understand business then. The cost of materials is increasing, therefore the retail price will increase. Does it suck? Yes. But we can’t blame Mattel or expect them to just lower their profit margins.
Prices for all toys are increasing. Marvel legends are up to 22.99-24.99 depending on the retailer. Funkos are up. Everything is up. Whoever is comparing these to Hot Toys is comparing apples to oranges. Hot toys are over $250-300. So, proportionally, $25 for an Elite isn’t bad because they are quality figures in their own right.
Lastly, for those complaining about $25, most of you already pay more through Ringside to get them early. Don’t kid yourselves. Will the Ringside prices go up too? Sure. But you were already paying more.
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Mar 4, 2022 18:31:43 GMT -5
I’ve been pretty much done and this just reaffirms that. Between all the repaints and just meh figures coming out as it is I can’t justify paying more.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Mar 4, 2022 18:48:00 GMT -5
Why is ceasing collecting the solution here? Why not just limit your purchases. Why not buy one less figure than you would have? Some of you are very dramatic.
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