@WWERetroStars
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Post by @WWERetroStars on Mar 5, 2022 11:16:25 GMT -5
World news and WWE figure collecting rarely intersect, but I’d be much more worried about the impact external price increases will have on collectors and not a potential bump in the cost of a figure.
A $2 increase in the cost of a figure could/would mean $100 over the course of the year for someone who buys 50 figures, $200 for 100 and so on…
A jump, but not an insane jump.
The waters get cloudy when you take into account the jumps we are seeing and will continue to see across the board. Gas, food, energy costs, they are all headed north QUICK.
In many cases, there will be more pressure on “expendable dollars” than ever before.
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voicesinmyhead
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Mar 5, 2022 11:28:33 GMT -5
Why are they complaining so much then if they are just childrens toys? Why are they on a forum for these figures if they are just for children? It’s contradictory. Don’t buy the figures in the first place if they are just for children. I never said they were just for children. Stop putting words in my mouth. Again, why do you care if people don't know want to buy them anymore? “It's not ridiculing people by pointing out they're children's toys.” Did you not say that? I didn’t say you said they were “just for children.” I said that you were referring to them as just/merely childrens toys. And my issue is not if someone wants to stop collecting. My issue is people threatening to stop collecting because a figure went up $1 or $2. Budget better. Buy a little less. Be a little more picky. Don’t whine and complain as of the threats will make Mattel change their mind. It’s business. If you don’t want to collect then don’t. But stop whining. There are worse things going on then action figure prices increasing.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Mar 5, 2022 11:37:49 GMT -5
I never said they were just for children. Stop putting words in my mouth. Again, why do you care if people don't know want to buy them anymore? “It's not ridiculing people by pointing out they're children's toys.” Did you not say that? I didn’t say you said they were “just for children.” I said that you were referring to them as just/merely childrens toys. And my issue is not if someone wants to stop collecting. My issue is people threatening to stop collecting because a figure went up $1 or $2. Budget better. Buy a little less. Be a little more picky. Don’t whine and complain as of the threats will make Mattel change their mind. It’s business. If you don’t want to collect then don’t. But stop whining. There are worse things going on then action figure prices increasing. They ARE children's toys. It's not a crime to point that out. Speaking with your dollars is the only way companies listen, so yes, it will matter to Mattel if people stop buying them. If people don't think that these are worth $25 (they aren't), that's fine. It shouldn't matter to you if people don't want to spend that on a toy when the cost of necessities like food and gas are sky high right now.
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Post by Back to the Codyverse on Mar 5, 2022 11:37:55 GMT -5
It works for Ultimates too. Before I buy in store, I’ll check the online price of the figure at Walmart and Target(if available) and get them to price match. Haven’t had any issues yet Will they do that even if it's not in stock (able to be ordered) but still shows up on the target app? I combatted it once by showing A Target cashier that I was buying something in store that was listed online but said the store didn’t have it - she said something like “oh okay, well it is the exact toy you are buying so I’ll match it. No problem” and that was that 9/10 times I have no issues at all
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Post by legendsguy on Mar 5, 2022 11:38:42 GMT -5
i cant imagine what ebay prices will be after this. lol. if people are paying close to $30 per elite, the sec. market is gonna triple prob since the cost/shipping will be so high. smh. this is gonna get really interesting.
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voicesinmyhead
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Mar 5, 2022 11:39:58 GMT -5
“It's not ridiculing people by pointing out they're children's toys.” Did you not say that? I didn’t say you said they were “just for children.” I said that you were referring to them as just/merely childrens toys. And my issue is not if someone wants to stop collecting. My issue is people threatening to stop collecting because a figure went up $1 or $2. Budget better. Buy a little less. Be a little more picky. Don’t whine and complain as of the threats will make Mattel change their mind. It’s business. If you don’t want to collect then don’t. But stop whining. There are worse things going on then action figure prices increasing. They ARE children's toys. It's not a crime to point that out. Speaking with your dollars is the only way companies listen, so yes, it will matter to Mattel if people stop buying them. If people don't think that these are worth $25 (they aren't), that's fine. It shouldn't matter to you if people don't want to spend that on a toy when the cost of necessities like food and gas are sky high right now. So I didn’t put words in your mouth…
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Thunder Chunky
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Mar 5, 2022 11:41:32 GMT -5
They ARE children's toys. It's not a crime to point that out. Speaking with your dollars is the only way companies listen, so yes, it will matter to Mattel if people stop buying them. If people don't think that these are worth $25 (they aren't), that's fine. It shouldn't matter to you if people don't want to spend that on a toy when the cost of necessities like food and gas are sky high right now. So I didn’t put words in your mouth… Tell me where I said they were just for children. Point out in my comments where I said that. The fact of the matter is they are children's toys that adults buy also. They're in the toy aisle for a reason. NECA toys aren't in the toy section at Walmart. You still refused to answer the question about why you care so much.
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viper412
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Post by viper412 on Mar 5, 2022 11:47:17 GMT -5
the “more” amount will go up more If people were content with 28 each, maybe at 32 they’re out Right but anyone willing to pay $27 before at Ringside may just be a littler more patient now and pay $25 retail at a Walmart or Target. I understand the Ringside prices will go up even further too, but if you were already paying more than $25 than you shouldn’t be complaining. yea but add gas and time cost to the 25 and you might as well be buying it online for the increased price I mean I’m pretty much out anyways so I’m not gonna be going with either but it sucks for people who are continuing there’s no denying Everyone has a right to complain here, they have a standard whether it’s 21.99 retail now or 27.99 average Ringside now and they’re both going to increase beyond their standard to say 24.99 and 29.99.
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Post by wrestlingfan0815 on Mar 5, 2022 11:58:09 GMT -5
Right but anyone willing to pay $27 before at Ringside may just be a littler more patient now and pay $25 retail at a Walmart or Target. I understand the Ringside prices will go up even further too, but if you were already paying more than $25 than you shouldn’t be complaining. yea but add gas and time cost to the 25 and you might as well be buying it online for the increased price I mean I’m pretty much out anyways so I’m not gonna be going with either but it sucks for people who are continuing there’s no denying Everyone has a right to complain here, they have a standard whether it’s 21.99 retail now or 27.99 average Ringside now and they’re both going to increase beyond their standard to say 24.99 and 29.99. especially with gas prices exceeding $4 a gallon
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Post by ChuckPOORis55 Cody Gang 4 Lyfe on Mar 5, 2022 12:53:30 GMT -5
Some of these reactions are just laughable. First off, we are still feeling the effects of the pandemic and prices will always go up at a time of war. That is just a fact. Prices will only go up further if we get involved. Let’s hope that we don’t get involved. That’s what is most important here. Second, people need to stop blaming Mattel directly. What do you expect them to do? Eat the extra cost? You simply do not understand business then. The cost of materials is increasing, therefore the retail price will increase. Does it suck? Yes. But we can’t blame Mattel or expect them to just lower their profit margins. Prices for all toys are increasing. Marvel legends are up to 22.99-24.99 depending on the retailer. Funkos are up. Everything is up. Whoever is comparing these to Hot Toys is comparing apples to oranges. Hot toys are over $250-300. So, proportionally, $25 for an Elite isn’t bad because they are quality figures in their own right. Lastly, for those complaining about $25, most of you already pay more through Ringside to get them early. Don’t kid yourselves. Will the Ringside prices go up too? Sure. But you were already paying more. This is just corporate boot licking. Companies across the board are seeing record profits yet somehow they need to increase the costs due to materials which in theory should mean they would be doing about the same as they were before if they were actually only increasing costs equal to the increase in materials.
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Post by iamcline on Mar 5, 2022 13:02:28 GMT -5
All valid points but the important thing is we don't have to keep buying at the higher price point and many of us wont. If the quality were better then sure, but other companies are putting out higher quality products for the same (or sometimes less) price. Something is going to give. The bubble will burst at some point and we'll be back to square one. So don’t. But my point is many of you are already buying at a price point that is even higher than the one being mentioned. Also, how is Mattel not pumping out quality figures? Ignoring basics, elites and ultimates are certainly quality figures. They are making some of the best wrestling figures of all time. Are there QC issues? Sure. But that doesn’t mean what they are producing isn’t quality. Every company has QC issues. What company is priding better figures at lower price points? They are around the same price point as Marvel Legends and DC McFarlane. What’s the difference? For those buying at RSC prices and complaining I get what you're saying but I had to stop paying those prices a while back. As much as I love RSC sometimes it's excessive (Sting/Lee/Goon wtf) As for quality, the Elite line is starting to have some QC issues. Ultimate Kane and Rock having head issues is not good for a premium brand but Mattel has stepped up to remedy the problems. Other companies and lines have pinless joints, butterfly joints long before Mattel Elites at or lower than their pricing with more accessories. We're on the same page but it just sucks. I'm pretty active with AEW Unrivaled/Unmatched, WWE Elites, WWE Ultimate but soon it's going to be primarily Ultimate and Supremes for me.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2022 13:24:35 GMT -5
Dude seriously used the (overused and misused) term “gaslighting” in a discussion about wrestling toys. Hahahahaha
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Thunder Chunky
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Mar 5, 2022 13:37:41 GMT -5
Dude seriously used the (overused and misused) term “gaslighting” in a discussion about wrestling toys. Hahahahaha The people that use "gaslighting" have no idea what it even means
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voicesinmyhead
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Mar 5, 2022 14:26:56 GMT -5
Some of these reactions are just laughable. First off, we are still feeling the effects of the pandemic and prices will always go up at a time of war. That is just a fact. Prices will only go up further if we get involved. Let’s hope that we don’t get involved. That’s what is most important here. Second, people need to stop blaming Mattel directly. What do you expect them to do? Eat the extra cost? You simply do not understand business then. The cost of materials is increasing, therefore the retail price will increase. Does it suck? Yes. But we can’t blame Mattel or expect them to just lower their profit margins. Prices for all toys are increasing. Marvel legends are up to 22.99-24.99 depending on the retailer. Funkos are up. Everything is up. Whoever is comparing these to Hot Toys is comparing apples to oranges. Hot toys are over $250-300. So, proportionally, $25 for an Elite isn’t bad because they are quality figures in their own right. Lastly, for those complaining about $25, most of you already pay more through Ringside to get them early. Don’t kid yourselves. Will the Ringside prices go up too? Sure. But you were already paying more. This is just corporate boot licking. Companies across the board are seeing record profits yet somehow they need to increase the costs due to materials which in theory should mean they would be doing about the same as they were before if they were actually only increasing costs equal to the increase in materials. Tell me how Mattel is making record profit. Please do tell.
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Post by screech on Mar 5, 2022 14:40:50 GMT -5
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Post by dynamitekido on Mar 5, 2022 15:08:20 GMT -5
i cant imagine what ebay prices will be after this. lol. if people are paying close to $30 per elite, the sec. market is gonna triple prob since the cost/shipping will be so high. smh. this is gonna get really interesting. I was thinking about this myself. At the very least it’s gonna bring up the price of all of that stuff $5. Plus increased shipping. I think we’re really gonna see how bad (or not) people want to collect this stuff during all of this.
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Post by Ministry of Darkness on Mar 5, 2022 15:54:01 GMT -5
The news is not great but I only buy certain figures so it won't affect me that much compared to collectors who want to have everything though.😔
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Post by newgenandy on Mar 5, 2022 17:03:24 GMT -5
The way I look at it there’s a certain price I’m willing to pay for something
If I can physically afford something, but it’s more than I’m willing to pay I won’t buy it
It’s any companies prerogative to choose how much to charge, it’s a consumers prerogative to choose if there are willing to pay said charge.
The company will usually caveat price increases with a rationale, it’s s consumers choice if they choose to accept that or form their own opinion
Not everything is a conspiracy, not everything is a battle and not everything needs to be an argument.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Mar 5, 2022 18:07:55 GMT -5
If you're not price matching with the Target app you're only hurting yourself. Got a new E91 figure today for $19.99, not one shred of hassle.
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Post by finnbalor1 on Mar 5, 2022 19:06:49 GMT -5
Almost everything I collect(WWE,Funko,AEW,TMNT,Neca,Marvel Legends)have went up in my area last couple months and I definitely have cut back on some things. So Ill keep continuing doing that if everything goes up again,which it seems like gonna happen.
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