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Post by rKoNomad316 on Apr 19, 2022 15:34:34 GMT -5
The box art is just half of it, it’s actually seeing the figure in the box that makes it. And I’m not a MOC.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Apr 19, 2022 15:38:11 GMT -5
Yeah I don’t care. Box ends up in the trash anyway.
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Post by Jack Specific on Apr 19, 2022 15:38:51 GMT -5
Ridiculous, might as well keep the box and sell the figure inside if you collect moc It's funny that you mention that. My grandaughter got some of those Disney Mini Brands and knowing I like Star Wars and Marvel, she gave me a Star Wars Mini brands Millennium Falcon "Toybox" but there is nothing in it but some cardboard. It's just a tiny box with no figure in it. I still love it though because she gave it to me.
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Post by stc13 on Apr 19, 2022 15:42:57 GMT -5
I'm all for minimizing plastics, but this doesn't seem like the best solution. I'd imagine that there are solutions - even a minimal window - that are better than the full on box design. This is an open invitation for swaps and other issues.
There's also some irony in touting your zero plastic design when selling a product that is quite literally a hunk of plastic.
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Post by Thunder Chunky on Apr 19, 2022 15:45:32 GMT -5
Don't really care honestly. The only boxes I keep are the Ultimates anyways.
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Post by Zincdust on Apr 19, 2022 15:58:42 GMT -5
There's also some irony in touting your zero plastic design when selling a product that is quite literally a hunk of plastic. The obvious solution to this is to also make the action figures themselves out of cardboard.
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Post by AlexWestCollects on Apr 19, 2022 16:06:23 GMT -5
I don’t like it to say the least. Esp as someone who always checks paint apps instores. I feel like it’s only a matter of time the industry follows suit.
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Post by newgenandy on Apr 19, 2022 16:16:02 GMT -5
There's also some irony in touting your zero plastic design when selling a product that is quite literally a hunk of plastic. The obvious solution to this is to also make the action figures themselves out of cardboard. I mean they made cardboard accessories in that line of figures with action features a few years back
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Post by Ruthless Attitude on Apr 19, 2022 16:16:56 GMT -5
I support removing plastic waste from the environment but I think there are better design solutions. This is a dream for figswappers, who are outrageous enough with the things they cram in boxes and return to stores. I once saw a Jannah (Star Wars) rammed into a Naomi Elite box. There needs to be a way to check for quality in-store without breaking the seal. Maybe the figures can be tied down to the box. Or maybe they can incorporate a flip-open door to view the figure. Like this:
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Post by coldblooded on Apr 19, 2022 16:21:50 GMT -5
Mattel uses TONS of plastic in their packaging. Sometimes breaking a figure out of the bubble because it just wont come out. Im all for the removal of that bubble, but you still need to see the figure Is hasbro going to ramp up the quality control? Cause not every figure is perfect. I see hasbro giving even less s about quality control. Knowing potential customer cant see the paint apps in the box theyll just laugh at us and we'll continue to buy like the sheep we are.
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Post by Vamp55 on Apr 19, 2022 16:23:27 GMT -5
Few options out there.
1) Completely closed box - this seems very unlikely to me 2) 80% (or more) cardboard with open window no plastic - transformers have already moved to this on some of their figures - seems like this is where the industry is going 3) Move to plant based plastics - seems like this is something most companies have/will explore - this option probably comes down to cost!
If they go completely closed box, I’m out as a collector, and I’ll just go backwards and focus on Hasbro’s. If they go with option 2, they’ll need to be very creative and ensure the box art draws my attention in and the figure is almost secondary (sound stupid I know). If the plant based plastic is doable, and doesn’t ruin overtime, this seems like the simplest solution.
I think it’s pretty funny that you companies that make figures out of PLASTIC are trying to show they are environmentally friendly, by removing a very small amount of plastic from the box…
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Post by hbkjason on Apr 19, 2022 16:38:48 GMT -5
I'm a moc collector and I hate it I've already cancelled quite a few Star Wars preorders because of this b
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Post by IceDragon on Apr 19, 2022 16:44:19 GMT -5
I'm not a MOC collector and I buy 99% of my figures online so I only get to see the paint apps on used/secondary market figures so this doesn't affect me at all but that being said, I can see how this could change MOC collecting for many.
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Post by coldblooded on Apr 19, 2022 16:46:49 GMT -5
I see alot of people using the same argument that the companies are using plastic in the figures.
They can still do that.
Why?
Because your figures are staying inside your house, while the old platsic packaging is being thrown away.
It the trash that plastic is hurting. Because it takes WAY TO GOT DANG long to decompose plastic.
The plastic in your toy is not whats affecting the environment, unless you just casually throw them away.
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Post by crush on Apr 19, 2022 16:51:29 GMT -5
No issues with it from me. I would say the best thing to keep thieving and scamming to a minimum is to construct the boxes in such a away that it's nearly impossible to re-seal them. Tear-away tabs and etc. perhaps? Essentially something that would require the box to be wrecked in order to get the figure out.
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Post by Davey on Apr 19, 2022 16:59:17 GMT -5
I see alot of people using the same argument that the companies are using plastic in the figures. They can still do that. Why? Because your figures are staying inside your house, while the old platsic packaging is being thrown away. It the trash that plastic is hurting. Because it takes WAY TO GOT DANG long to decompose plastic. The plastic in your toy is not whats affecting the environment, unless you just casually throw them away. Agree. Plastic packaging takes 500-1000 years to decompose and that’s only in the right conditions. Toy collectibles are fairly sustainable if they’re kept. Cheaper throw away toys on the other hand like happy meal toys or kinder surprise toys are terrible. I think it’s the least Toy companies can do to get rid of plastic packaging, but they do need to be innovative so that scammers can’t just replace toys and return.
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Post by Biff Slamkovich™ on Apr 19, 2022 17:11:43 GMT -5
I get it, but this is a terrible idea and just makes things for repackers to get away with their scummy behavior.
I imagine that at some point down the road there is going to be pushback from retailers due to all of the products being returned with different items inside.
Just imagine being a customer buying a Marvel toy for a child, only to find something completely different inside the box. You'd likely go right back to the store to demand a refund or exchange. Retailers will be forced to accommodate but will eventually provide negative feedback to toy companies that that doesn't work for mass retail toys.
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Post by Davey on Apr 19, 2022 17:24:27 GMT -5
I get it, but this is a terrible idea and just makes things for repackers to get away with their scummy behavior. I imagine that at some point down the road there is going to be pushback from retailers due to all of the products being returned with different items inside. Just imagine being a customer buying a Marvel toy for a child, only to find something completely different inside the box. You'd likely go right back to the store to demand a refund or exchange. Retailers will be forced to accommodate but will eventually provide negative feedback to toy companies that that doesn't work for mass retail toys. Tear strips would be a good answer.
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Post by kanepilk on Apr 19, 2022 17:28:39 GMT -5
I'm not fully sure I'm getting the argument that people who swap out the figures and return them are going to benefit/increase.
If the packaging is really easy to open, then you'll be able to check in-store before buying it, what's in the box. If the packaging is really hard to open, then you'll know it was already opened by the time you see it on the shelf and will know it's been tampered with.
Personally, I'm not mad about fully-closed cardboard boxes. I do agree with others that the internal packaging that holds the figure in place could be changed to cardboard, and I'd agree with that. I still think the 'window' on the box should remain, though. But that's just my opinion.
I'm a loose collector so although I don't really care about packaging that much - I can see the issue of so much plastic being binned all the time.
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Post by stormbreaker on Apr 19, 2022 17:35:33 GMT -5
Maybe they’ll come up with a see-through cardboard.
I’m all for helping the environment to thrive, but if you can’t see the figure you’re about to purchase… And it’s a Spidey figure that has a complicated paint scheme…
Well, let’s see how this all plays out.
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