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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Mar 30, 2023 7:31:34 GMT -5
I bet you’re fun at parties… what’s stupid is hoping it fails when you aren’t interested in it but others are. That’s like me telling you that I hope your birthday plans fail. Something, I assume, you’d be looking forward to but it has no baring on me. If you don’t like it and it’s not for you, then that’s fine - don’t buy it. But I’ll tell you this, if this doesn’t fund then that Raw stage has an even BIGGER mountain to climb if it’s ever proposed. If this funds, the mold for the stage base itself is made - thus helping out the future of the raw stage potentially being crowdfunded. What's stupid about hoping it fails? OK here goes.. If this product fails then hopefully mattel will learn a valuable lesson - WWE IS THEIR MAIN LINE. Let's count how many ultimate edition WWE figures there are on the market today.... Now let's count how many WCW ultimate edition are on the market today.... Oooh. There seems to be 10 times the amount of wwe figures. Why is that you ask? Oh.. maybe because wwe sells way better? It's a stupid time to do this set, the figures all suck, and it's a lazy effort. You don't build Sun man mountain before you make castle grayskull. Making the raw ring should have followed with the raw stage. Finally, and I mean this..I am alot of fun at parties. WCW is part of the WWE line. There's plenty of WCW figures that sell and we're highly desired by fans. If I'm not mistaken the overall sentiment was over the roof over the Nitro stage in comparison to the Attitude Era stage. Sure, the choices of figures for this crowdfund and attires weren't the best, but at this point it is what it is. We're getting something people have wanted since the beginning of this line. If this isn't for you that's fine, but hating and wishing for it to fail doesn't help for future projects. We need positivity. I didn't care for the New Gen set and still don't care for that era, but I funded it. I also didn't speak negatively because I didn't get my desired stage at the time (Nitro). Not everything is going to appeal to everyone, but I'm sure whatever you collect people respect. Would you have liked it if people bashed the Attitude Era stage if you were backing it and they weren't? I'm all for criticism, but just hating is weird.
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Post by Rocket_Fuel_Merchant on Mar 30, 2023 7:56:37 GMT -5
What's stupid about hoping it fails? OK here goes.. If this product fails then hopefully mattel will learn a valuable lesson - WWE IS THEIR MAIN LINE. Let's count how many ultimate edition WWE figures there are on the market today.... Now let's count how many WCW ultimate edition are on the market today.... Oooh. There seems to be 10 times the amount of wwe figures. Why is that you ask? Oh.. maybe because wwe sells way better? It's a stupid time to do this set, the figures all suck, and it's a lazy effort. You don't build Sun man mountain before you make castle grayskull. Making the raw ring should have followed with the raw stage. Finally, and I mean this..I am alot of fun at parties. Unfortunately for you, whats stupid in this whole situation is your opinion...There is a huge number of people that grew up through the New Gen Era and straight into the Monday Night Wars, WCW was a huge part of that. Sure, there are more WWE figures out there, but a good number of those guys spent plenty of time in WCW as well...additionally, contracts limit things. You don't think Mattel would be cranking out WCW Surfer and Crow Stingers if they had the license? You don't think people would be gobbling them up like they were going out of style? You think people are not out of bounds excited for the Steiners in their WCW looks?... IF, you are right and a RAW Stage would sell much better, than from a business standpoint, the crowdfunding is the RIGHT way to do the Nitro stage...its no risk for Mattel...if it doesn't fund, they don't waste the money manufacturing them. the Raw Stage will sell next time, or maybe even at retail. Additionally, the figures don't suck. DDP and Steiner are out of bounds when it comes to demand. I would have picked someone other than Rey, and used a different Hogan, but they both move units, and so does the Warrior (thats the figure I want most anyway). You're free to have your own (stupid) reasons for not being interested in it. I don't care that you're not backing it, whether its a money thing, or youre just not interested in WCW, or whatever it is...but to actively want it to fail does nothing but hurt the hobby, and that is garbage
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Post by Flair Forever on Mar 30, 2023 12:49:20 GMT -5
I bet you’re fun at parties… what’s stupid is hoping it fails when you aren’t interested in it but others are. That’s like me telling you that I hope your birthday plans fail. Something, I assume, you’d be looking forward to but it has no baring on me. If you don’t like it and it’s not for you, then that’s fine - don’t buy it. But I’ll tell you this, if this doesn’t fund then that Raw stage has an even BIGGER mountain to climb if it’s ever proposed. If this funds, the mold for the stage base itself is made - thus helping out the future of the raw stage potentially being crowdfunded. What's stupid about hoping it fails? OK here goes.. If this product fails then hopefully mattel will learn a valuable lesson - WWE IS THEIR MAIN LINE. Let's count how many ultimate edition WWE figures there are on the market today.... Now let's count how many WCW ultimate edition are on the market today.... Oooh. There seems to be 10 times the amount of wwe figures. Why is that you ask? Oh.. maybe because wwe sells way better? It's a stupid time to do this set, the figures all suck, and it's a lazy effort. You don't build Sun man mountain before you make castle grayskull. Making the raw ring should have followed with the raw stage. Finally, and I mean this..I am alot of fun at parties. WCW went out of business 22 years ago..... and yet people are still buying WCW merch to this day. The Monday Night Wars were a time in wrestling that was EPIC...... Which current WWE stars do you think will still be generating new merch sales 22 years from now? Who will be the "Legends" of 2045? Otis? Omos? Baron Corbin? Bobby Lashley? I don't think modern-day fans are going to remember 2023 WWE as fondly as many of us recall 1995-1998 WCW, DDP, Scott Steiner, Rey Mysterio.... and yes, WCW Hogan too....
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Post by jumpinjefffarmer on Mar 30, 2023 14:35:35 GMT -5
What's stupid about hoping it fails? OK here goes.. If this product fails then hopefully mattel will learn a valuable lesson - WWE IS THEIR MAIN LINE. Let's count how many ultimate edition WWE figures there are on the market today.... Now let's count how many WCW ultimate edition are on the market today.... Oooh. There seems to be 10 times the amount of wwe figures. Why is that you ask? Oh.. maybe because wwe sells way better? It's a stupid time to do this set, the figures all suck, and it's a lazy effort. You don't build Sun man mountain before you make castle grayskull. Making the raw ring should have followed with the raw stage. Finally, and I mean this..I am alot of fun at parties. Unfortunately for you, whats stupid in this whole situation is your opinion...There is a huge number of people that grew up through the New Gen Era and straight into the Monday Night Wars, WCW was a huge part of that. Sure, there are more WWE figures out there, but a good number of those guys spent plenty of time in WCW as well...additionally, contracts limit things. You don't think Mattel would be cranking out WCW Surfer and Crow Stingers if they had the license? You don't think people would be gobbling them up like they were going out of style? You think people are not out of bounds excited for the Steiners in their WCW looks?... IF, you are right and a RAW Stage would sell much better, than from a business standpoint, the crowdfunding is the RIGHT way to do the Nitro stage...its no risk for Mattel...if it doesn't fund, they don't waste the money manufacturing them. the Raw Stage will sell next time, or maybe even at retail. Additionally, the figures don't suck. DDP and Steiner are out of bounds when it comes to demand. I would have picked someone other than Rey, and used a different Hogan, but they both move units, and so does the Warrior (thats the figure I want most anyway). You're free to have your own (stupid) reasons for not being interested in it. I don't care that you're not backing it, whether its a money thing, or youre just not interested in WCW, or whatever it is...but to actively want it to fail does nothing but hurt the hobby, and that is garbage Lol I couldn't care less what you think of my opinion. Because you are...nobody!
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Post by Rocket_Fuel_Merchant on Mar 30, 2023 14:52:48 GMT -5
Unfortunately for you, whats stupid in this whole situation is your opinion...There is a huge number of people that grew up through the New Gen Era and straight into the Monday Night Wars, WCW was a huge part of that. Sure, there are more WWE figures out there, but a good number of those guys spent plenty of time in WCW as well...additionally, contracts limit things. You don't think Mattel would be cranking out WCW Surfer and Crow Stingers if they had the license? You don't think people would be gobbling them up like they were going out of style? You think people are not out of bounds excited for the Steiners in their WCW looks?... IF, you are right and a RAW Stage would sell much better, than from a business standpoint, the crowdfunding is the RIGHT way to do the Nitro stage...its no risk for Mattel...if it doesn't fund, they don't waste the money manufacturing them. the Raw Stage will sell next time, or maybe even at retail. Additionally, the figures don't suck. DDP and Steiner are out of bounds when it comes to demand. I would have picked someone other than Rey, and used a different Hogan, but they both move units, and so does the Warrior (thats the figure I want most anyway). You're free to have your own (stupid) reasons for not being interested in it. I don't care that you're not backing it, whether its a money thing, or youre just not interested in WCW, or whatever it is...but to actively want it to fail does nothing but hurt the hobby, and that is garbage Lol I couldn't care less what you think of my opinion. Because you are...nobody! doesn't stop your opinion from being garbage 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by kgchampion on Mar 30, 2023 15:42:15 GMT -5
I hope it fails. Because its wcw. The company was ahead for a couple of years with some aged wwf stars at the helm. Yes there was the Monday night wars but ultimately (no he just dit'nt) wwe wooped their candy asses for years and years before and after the Monday night wars. Why make something this large and colossal when their isn't even a raw stage yet? It's like making a motu origins Sun man castle but not making castle grayskull. If I had the raw stage this might be tempting, but I don't. And I have the raw ring. And none of the tiers were wcw ring skirts and matt/buckles/ropes so now the raw ring sits incomplete with no attitude stage and the wcw stage sits incomplete with no wcw ring. It's.......just........stupid. You'll probably find the WCW Nitro arena is much more cheaper to make compared to the Raw Is War stage due to its size. The titantron was huge and in scale would be big and would cost alot more than $400 that the Nitro stage is worth. I don’t think that’s true. If you look at the Raw is War stage that Mattel had on display, it was mostly repeating pieces. It was almost entirely made up of scaffolding. The WCW looks like it requires far more unique tooling and individual molds and has a ton of LEDs. I think despite the Raw is War stage’s size, it would be much cheaper to build the tooling for. The only way it would be more expensive is if they put in an LED screen for the Titan Tron. But I honestly don’t ever see Mattel making a stage that comes with an LED screen.
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Post by jumpinjefffarmer on Mar 30, 2023 15:43:05 GMT -5
Lol I couldn't care less what you think of my opinion. Because you are...nobody! doesn't stop your opinion from being garbage 🤷🏻♂️ I think yours is garbage. But it's an open board. My opinion doesn't have to match yours. Why don't you get that?
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Post by Ministry of Darkness on Mar 30, 2023 16:47:12 GMT -5
You'll probably find the WCW Nitro arena is much more cheaper to make compared to the Raw Is War stage due to its size. The titantron was huge and in scale would be big and would cost alot more than $400 that the Nitro stage is worth. I don’t think that’s true. If you look at the Raw is War stage that Mattel had on display, it was mostly repeating pieces. It was almost entirely made up of scaffolding. The WCW looks like it requires far more unique tooling and individual molds and has a ton of LEDs. I think despite the Raw is War stage’s size, it would be much cheaper to build the tooling for. The only way it would be more expensive is if they put in an LED screen for the Titan Tron. But I honestly don’t ever see Mattel making a stage that comes with an LED screen. Hmmm. You do have a good point. Let's hope Mattel can add a tablet to the titantron from entrance video's. 😝
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Post by The Madness on Mar 30, 2023 17:05:29 GMT -5
I hope it fails. Because its wcw. The company was ahead for a couple of years with some aged wwf stars at the helm. Yes there was the Monday night wars but ultimately (no he just dit'nt) wwe wooped their candy asses for years and years before and after the Monday night wars. Why make something this large and colossal when their isn't even a raw stage yet? It's like making a motu origins Sun man castle but not making castle grayskull. If I had the raw stage this might be tempting, but I don't. And I have the raw ring. And none of the tiers were wcw ring skirts and matt/buckles/ropes so now the raw ring sits incomplete with no attitude stage and the wcw stage sits incomplete with no wcw ring. It's.......just........stupid. I’ve been on this board a LOT for 18+ years and this is easily the worst take I’ve EVER seen on it. I don’t even know where to begin with everything that’s wrong with this.
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Mar 30, 2023 17:06:54 GMT -5
I hope it fails. Because its wcw. The company was ahead for a couple of years with some aged wwf stars at the helm. Yes there was the Monday night wars but ultimately (no he just dit'nt) wwe wooped their candy asses for years and years before and after the Monday night wars. Why make something this large and colossal when their isn't even a raw stage yet? It's like making a motu origins Sun man castle but not making castle grayskull. If I had the raw stage this might be tempting, but I don't. And I have the raw ring. And none of the tiers were wcw ring skirts and matt/buckles/ropes so now the raw ring sits incomplete with no attitude stage and the wcw stage sits incomplete with no wcw ring. It's.......just........stupid. I’ve been on this board a LOT for 18+ years and this is easily the worst take I’ve EVER seen on it. I don’t even know where to begin with everything that’s wrong with this. As Brother Love, I can finally say that there is one person I don’t love. And that’s you, jumpinjefffarmer. Jumpinjeff can jump right on out of here for takes like that 🤡
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Post by Biff Slamkovich™ on Mar 30, 2023 17:08:38 GMT -5
I’ve been on this board a LOT for 18+ years and this is easily the worst take I’ve EVER seen on it. I don’t even know where to begin with everything that’s wrong with this. As Brother Love, I can finally say that there is one person I don’t love. And that’s you, jumpinjefffarmer. Jumpinjeff can jump right on out of here for takes like that 🤡 There's heat, and then there's jumpinjefffarmer heat.
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Post by Jim Cornette’s Wendy’s Order🍔 on Mar 30, 2023 17:16:04 GMT -5
As Brother Love, I can finally say that there is one person I don’t love. And that’s you, jumpinjefffarmer. Jumpinjeff can jump right on out of here for takes like that 🤡 There's heat, and then there's jumpinjefffarmer heat. And we all thought x-pac had “go away” heat 😳
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Post by WCWThunderRosa on Mar 30, 2023 17:48:19 GMT -5
I bet you’re fun at parties… what’s stupid is hoping it fails when you aren’t interested in it but others are. That’s like me telling you that I hope your birthday plans fail. Something, I assume, you’d be looking forward to but it has no baring on me. If you don’t like it and it’s not for you, then that’s fine - don’t buy it. But I’ll tell you this, if this doesn’t fund then that Raw stage has an even BIGGER mountain to climb if it’s ever proposed. If this funds, the mold for the stage base itself is made - thus helping out the future of the raw stage potentially being crowdfunded. What's stupid about hoping it fails? OK here goes.. If this product fails then hopefully mattel will learn a valuable lesson - WWE IS THEIR MAIN LINE. Let's count how many ultimate edition WWE figures there are on the market today.... Now let's count how many WCW ultimate edition are on the market today.... Oooh. There seems to be 10 times the amount of wwe figures. Why is that you ask? Oh.. maybe because wwe sells way better? It's a stupid time to do this set, the figures all suck, and it's a lazy effort. You don't build Sun man mountain before you make castle grayskull. Making the raw ring should have followed with the raw stage. Finally, and I mean this..I am alot of fun at parties. I’m not even gonna waste time debating or debunking this this is the stupidest post in the history of the board
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Post by jumpinjefffarmer on Mar 30, 2023 19:13:34 GMT -5
I hope it fails. Because its wcw. The company was ahead for a couple of years with some aged wwf stars at the helm. Yes there was the Monday night wars but ultimately (no he just dit'nt) wwe wooped their candy asses for years and years before and after the Monday night wars. Why make something this large and colossal when their isn't even a raw stage yet? It's like making a motu origins Sun man castle but not making castle grayskull. If I had the raw stage this might be tempting, but I don't. And I have the raw ring. And none of the tiers were wcw ring skirts and matt/buckles/ropes so now the raw ring sits incomplete with no attitude stage and the wcw stage sits incomplete with no wcw ring. It's.......just........stupid. I’ve been on this board a LOT for 18+ years and this is easily the worst take I’ve EVER seen on it. I don’t even know where to begin with everything that’s wrong with this. Entrance with no ring.....ring with no entrance. Don't worry, it'll sink in eventually bud
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Post by jumpinjefffarmer on Mar 30, 2023 19:17:40 GMT -5
I’ve been on this board a LOT for 18+ years and this is easily the worst take I’ve EVER seen on it. I don’t even know where to begin with everything that’s wrong with this. As Brother Love, I can finally say that there is one person I don’t love. And that’s you, jumpinjefffarmer. Jumpinjeff can jump right on out of here for takes like that 🤡 You see...its you guys who cause all the trouble on this board. You can't respect people opinions. Every time somebody says something that you fem-bots don't agree with you jump in with this whole "he can get out of here". You are getting your wcw set. My opinion is it sucks. Build a bridge...and get over it. And brother love sucks too
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Post by The Madness on Mar 30, 2023 19:48:48 GMT -5
I’ve been on this board a LOT for 18+ years and this is easily the worst take I’ve EVER seen on it. I don’t even know where to begin with everything that’s wrong with this. Also. 18 years ? Jesus christ man. That's the saddest thing I have heard this year. You don't say stuff like that out loud. Yes, I’ve spent every second of those 18 years doing nothing but reading this board. I didn’t get married, start my own comicon, become an event promoter, be honored by multiple nonprofits, have a hand in finding a few lost silent films, and personally raise over $200,000 for homeless children. Nope, just looking at this board. My life has been nothing compared to jumpinjefffarmer. LMFAO.
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Post by coldblooded on Mar 30, 2023 19:58:40 GMT -5
Not liking it, and wishing it fails are 2 different things.
Not liking it, is your opinion. That's cool.
Wishing it fails is not an opinion and makes you look stupid.
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Post by Mongo Bears on Mar 30, 2023 20:03:58 GMT -5
Uh huh Ok Whats up Shut up
Uh huh Ok What’s up Shut up
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Post by Hound on Mar 30, 2023 20:48:42 GMT -5
I have no attachment towards WCW so this doesnt really interest me but it def looks very cool. Hope next year its a HIAC with the updated ring
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Post by dizcoduck on Mar 31, 2023 0:22:42 GMT -5
The stage itself looks great. I'm not that excited about it though and the figures are a real let down. I don't need figures of those I already have just because they're Ultimates now. The figures of Rey, DDP, Warrior are unwanted for me. The Steiner attire is not 1 I really need, but I get it. The more desirable attires are going to be more accessible and more mass produced available in different lines.
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