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Post by shenmue on Sept 2, 2008 16:50:35 GMT -5
The 2 PPV's that Lesnar was in must have made alot of money for him to be given a title shot so soon, any info on that?.
Really looking forward to it, i hope Lesnar wins but my head tells me Couture might have too much for him in terms of experience, but we will have to wait untill November 15th to find out.
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Post by PdW2kX on Sept 2, 2008 17:11:05 GMT -5
UFC 100: Mir vs. Lesnar II, Unification Match?
That...would be epic, I think.
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Post by shenmue on Sept 2, 2008 17:19:59 GMT -5
UFC 100: Mir vs. Lesnar II, Unification Match? That...would be epic, I think. It would be but i can't see Mir beating Nog to be honest. Nog vs Couture at UFC 100 is more realistic.
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Post by K5 on Sept 2, 2008 17:27:02 GMT -5
couture will come out on top i think.
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Post by axemurderer on Sept 2, 2008 18:12:09 GMT -5
couture will come out on top i think. good thought. Randy is wayyy too experienced and skillful for Brock to win..im going to say 3rd round Brock will be gassed and he will ultimately be tapped out. and no its not my Brock haterade..I dont think Brock Lesnar is on this level..he should have fought Kongo, then Gonzaga...hell even Werdum...but to give him a title shot already?? against Couture ?? get the out of here...he must have made Dana White a ton of money at the last PPV
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Post by Mr. Old School™ on Sept 2, 2008 18:16:33 GMT -5
UFC 100: Mir vs. Lesnar II, Unification Match? That...would be epic, I think. Man, that would be epic. I didn't think Brock would get a crack at the UFC Heavyweight belt this soon, but I am happy he did. Of course Randy has the upper hand in experience, no question about that, but Brock is a big, strong mean dude. I think it'll be Randy's toughest fight ever. Brock is no slouch and I'm sure after hearing this news, he'll be training harder than ever. He'll be training to win. This is his shot at the belt and the whole reason he got into MMA/UFC. I friggin' hope he wins.
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Post by axemurderer on Sept 2, 2008 18:46:46 GMT -5
so you think its okay that Brock overshot the HW division with people more deserving of the title shot ? be serious for one moment...
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Post by Mr. Orange on Sept 2, 2008 18:54:08 GMT -5
This will be Randy's hardest fight ever. Brock is a huge guy and surprisingly fast for his size. I'm hoping for Randy comes out on top, but Brock winning is likely, and this is coming from a huge Randy fan.
If Brock lands the punch that he did on Herring, it could be lights out for Couture. I can't see Randy out muscleing him like he did Gonzaga, so a clinch attack against the cage could be out the window. Randy's best way to win is to take him down and pound out a TKO. Brock showed that he can go for 15 minutes no problem, but he didn't take any damage during the fight, so it remains to be seen how he can fight hurt. Randy's experience is good, but experience isn't going to win him the fight. If that was the case, Heath Herring would have wrecked him. Lesnar is too big and too fast for Randy to handle.
Winner: Brock Lesnar
I hope I eat my words when the fight happens and see Randy pull out a big win, but I honestly see Brock Lesnar winning this.
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Post by moogie101 on Sept 2, 2008 18:54:49 GMT -5
so you think its okay that Brock overshot the HW division with people more deserving of the title shot ? be serious for one moment... Well Nog & Mir are fighting over A title, regardless of how diluted that now appears. The only guys that Brock has jumped over is Gonzaga, Kongo & Werdum. Gonzaga had his shot & came up short plus lost to Werdum so he's out of contention even though I personally think he'd be a hell of a challenge for Brock. Kongo looked impressive over Crocop but lost all momentumn after losing to Herring who let's remember Lesnar dominated. The only guy he's jumped over is Werdum & he just isn't enough of a name yet unfortunately. Hopefully once the title is sorted out he'll be next in line.
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Post by Graze on Sept 2, 2008 19:05:16 GMT -5
This fight should be epic! And I think Randy will win it
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Post by DWright on Sept 2, 2008 19:05:19 GMT -5
so you think its okay that Brock overshot the HW division with people more deserving of the title shot ? be serious for one moment... Well Nog & Mir are fighting over A title, regardless of how diluted that now appears. The only guys that Brock has jumped over is Gonzaga, Kongo & Werdum. Gonzaga had his shot & came up short plus lost to Werdum so he's out of contention even though I personally think he'd be a hell of a challenge for Brock. Kongo looked impressive over Crocop but lost all momentumn after losing to Herring who let's remember Lesnar dominated. The only guy he's jumped over is Werdum & he just isn't enough of a name yet unfortunately. Hopefully once the title is sorted out he'll be next in line. Agreed. And you're (Axe Murderer) are just obviously a Lesnar hater. I get it, but stop being so biased. The UFC HW division has been very weak. Who else do you put up there, other than Werdum? And why aren't you complaining about Mir getting a title shot? Mir beat Hardonk (...please) and Lesnar (who was making his UFC debut, in his 2nd ever fight) ...how does THAT mean you get a title shot? Lesnar vs Couture is going to draw HUGE buyrates for Dana. It's Randy's return. It's Lesnar's 3rd fight, and it's against each other. That's HUGE. Werdum and Valasquez are really the only 2 that are being left out. Valasquez has beat Brad Morris and Jake O'Brien. Neither are HUGE wins. Werdum has beat Gonzaga and Vera (who since, has dropped to LHW) and will probably get a chance at the title when the situation is settled, that's if he keeps winning.
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Post by jjkotm on Sept 2, 2008 20:30:23 GMT -5
I'm really caught by surprise here. Once Lesnar joined UFC I became a lot more interested in UFC as a whole. And to see him fight Randy is huge. I see Randy winning though. Lesnar has one win in UFC (two overall), and while it wasn't against a walk over by any means, it wasn't against someone like Randy. I see Randy winning in maybe the 3rd or 4th round.
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Post by Blehschmidt on Sept 2, 2008 20:38:52 GMT -5
All over the internet I see people picking Brock Lesnar to win this fight. Brock is too big, Brock is too strong, Brock is this, Brock is that....
Have these people not seen Randy fight?
He made Tim Sylvia look like a bitch, he shrugged off the Gonzaga kick that murdered Cro-Cop. He spanked Tito Ortiz...literally!! Other then the kryptonite known as Chuck Liddell, Randy has been unstoppable.
Brock Lesnar will be tapping in Round 3....mark my words.
To qoute Joe Rogan:
"Randy Couture is My Hero"
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Post by axemurderer on Sept 2, 2008 21:51:55 GMT -5
Lesnar vs Couture is going to draw HUGE buyrates for Dana. thats the only reason why this fight is happening and you know it !! and im definatley not a brock hater..i loved him in WWE and he was one of my favorite wrestlers., and I do want to see him succeed in UFC.... I just dont like the fact that he gets one decent win and hes getting a title shot already..Werdum should be fighting Randy...and Brock should be fighting against Gonzaga..Brock proved nothing by beating Herring who to me looked completely out of shape, and although Brock took him down at will, he did nothing to improve his position or try to WIN the match..... if im the "brock hater" you are obviously the "brock dick sucker" for thinking he deserves this title shot . All over the internet I see people picking Brock Lesnar to win this fight. Brock is too big, Brock is too strong, Brock is this, Brock is that.... Have these people not seen Randy fight? He made Tim Sylvia look like a bitch, he shrugged off the Gonzaga kick that murdered Cro-Cop. He spanked Tito Ortiz...literally!! Other then the kryptonite known as Chuck Liddell, Randy has been unstoppable. Brock Lesnar will be tapping in Round 3....mark my words. To qoute Joe Rogan: "Randy Couture is My Hero" THANK ING GOD someone here has their head on straight...and my same prediction as well.
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Post by DWright on Sept 2, 2008 22:15:02 GMT -5
Lesnar vs Couture is going to draw HUGE buyrates for Dana. thats the only reason why this fight is happening and you know it !! and im definatley not a brock hater..i loved him in WWE and he was one of my favorite wrestlers., and I do want to see him succeed in UFC.... I just dont like the fact that he gets one decent win and hes getting a title shot already..Werdum should be fighting Randy...and Brock should be fighting against Gonzaga..Brock proved nothing by beating Herring who to me looked completely out of shape, and although Brock took him down at will, he did nothing to improve his position or try to WIN the match..... if im the "brock hater" you are obviously the "brock dick sucker" for thinking he deserves this title shot . All over the internet I see people picking Brock Lesnar to win this fight. Brock is too big, Brock is too strong, Brock is this, Brock is that.... Have these people not seen Randy fight? He made Tim Sylvia look like a bitch, he shrugged off the Gonzaga kick that murdered Cro-Cop. He spanked Tito Ortiz...literally!! Other then the kryptonite known as Chuck Liddell, Randy has been unstoppable. Brock Lesnar will be tapping in Round 3....mark my words. To qoute Joe Rogan: "Randy Couture is My Hero" THANK ING GOD someone here has their head on straight...and my same prediction as well. All you do is downplay the fact that Brock absolutely dominated Herring. Herring was "out of shape", Brock wasn't impressive. Herring isn't a quality opponent. I'm surprised you didn't use the "The ref poked him in the eye, that's the only reason he lost" excuse yet. And where did I say he deserved it? I'm not saying he doesn't...but I'm not saying he does either. Your other top HW in the UFC: Fabricio Werdum - He's beat Gabrial Gonzaga (extremely over rated, only beat CC...who looked awful in the UFC) and Brandon Vera (a true LHW) (also scheduled to face Junior dos Santos in October) Gabrial Gonzaga - As said, very over rated. Lost 2 in a row (including his title shot) and has only beat Justin McCully since. Cain Valasquez - Has beat Brad Morris and Jake O'Brien, neither are quality opponents. At least, not quality enough to deserve a title shot. Shane Carwin - Has only beat Christian Wellisch, not exactly a top ranked quality opponent. (also scheduled to face Neil Wain in October) Cheick Kongo - Lost to Heath Herring (who Lesnar destroyed), since beat Dan Evensen. Frank Mir defeated Antoni Hardonk (can) and Brock Lesnar (in his 2nd ever fight, first in the UFC) and received a HW title shot...yet you don't complain about that....why? Because you're biased against Brock.
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Post by axemurderer on Sept 2, 2008 23:12:20 GMT -5
again riding the Brock Nuttrain...u prove my point everytime you open your mouth .. by downplaying every other MMA fighter more worthy than Lesnar....Brock laid on Herring...he threw an occasional punch and a knee..and if you say otherwise, you prove my point even more on how much you suck this guy...
and I dont complain about Mir getting a title shot cause I could give two ****s about an "interim" title..to me its just another fight..Couture is the true champ..if you had Mir vs Couture for the title I would bitch and moan just as much...besides Nog is going to take apart Mir just like Couture will be able to handle Brock Lesnar.
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Post by DWright on Sept 2, 2008 23:33:20 GMT -5
again riding the Brock Nuttrain...u prove my point everytime you open your mouth .. by downplaying every other MMA fighter more worthy than Lesnar....Brock laid on Herring...he threw an occasional punch and a knee..and if you say otherwise, you prove my point even more on how much you suck this guy... and I dont complain about Mir getting a title shot cause I could give two ****s about an "interim" title..to me its just another fight..Couture is the true champ..if you had Mir vs Couture for the title I would bitch and moan just as much...besides Nog is going to take apart Mir just like Couture will be able to handle Brock Lesnar. Are you really this ignorant? WHO did I downplay? Werdum hasn't beat any better competition than Brock. (big deal, he's fought twice) AND he fights soon... Gonzaga lost 2 fights, and has beat no one. Carwin has beat no one and fights soon. Herring just lost to Lesnar. Kongo lost to Herring...and beat no one. Cain Valasquez has beat Jake O'Brien... WHO do you want to fight for the title? Couture + Lesnar = $. The ONLY other fighter that deserves a shot (Werdum) BARELY deserves a shot himself...and has a previous fight. Seriously, stop being so biased and ignorant.
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Post by HHH316 on Sept 2, 2008 23:48:13 GMT -5
I personally didnt see this coming, but I think its great.
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Post by Fury on Sept 3, 2008 4:29:28 GMT -5
This fight is gonna be huge baby and the UFC knows it. The fact is the UFC were very smart to do this fight immediately before Couture's days are numbered for good and it will get monster buys for them.
Again this fight will be epic.
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Post by axemurderer on Sept 3, 2008 9:59:10 GMT -5
Seriously, stop being so biased and ignorant. seriously look in the mirror buddy..you are very biased towards Lesnar who again..PROVED NOTHING in a victory against Herring....all he proved was he can take someone down...well no craphes huge..but DID nothing to try and win the fight.. I dont give a craphow elitist and "in the know" you think you are...Brock doesnt deserve this title shot, and you are still riding on Brock and Biased towards him..that simple. Ignorance spills from your mouth as well little boy. I guess maybe you will be shut up when Brock realizes he is overmatched , and is nowhere NEAR the skill Randy is...and Randy taps him out in the 3rd round.
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