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Post by voicesinmyhead on Apr 9, 2023 13:42:48 GMT -5
Everybody went crazy for this when they saw the stage a year ago and everyone begged for it regardless of the figures. Now everyone is crying about this and that and why not this instead of that. If this doesn't get funded then I think you can kiss goodbye all of the wishes and wants of this board. I cant believe I’m saying this, but I agree with you theman. People want and want, but once they see how much it’ll cost they back out. That is exactly what is happening here. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Apr 9, 2023 13:41:06 GMT -5
I'm sure I'm not the first person to say this (sorry, I have not read all 148 prior pages), but I think a lot more people would be all-in if we knew we'd get all the figures rather than hitting milestones. The fact that you might cough up $400 for just the stage and Mysterio, no figures beyond that, probably makes a lot of potential buyers unwilling to commit. I love the idea, and wish I had somewhere to display something like this. But now that Hogan's out, this thing is gonna have a tough time. Again, this is just not how a crowdfund/ Kickstarter type campaign works. More $$$ = More room in the budget = More figures, accessories, etc. You’re not going to get everything for the minimum amount of backers. Sorry. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Apr 8, 2023 18:47:47 GMT -5
At the very minimum, they could extend the Hogan offer and just make him available to everyone (so everyone is guaranteed Hogan and Rey). But switching things around a bit and putting Steiner in there (ie. guaranteed Steiner and Rey) is probably the better way to go. I was thinking this. I feel that a lot of units would sell if everyone knew they were getting at least the stage, Hogan, and Rey. How does this make any sense? We already had the chance to be guaranteed Hogan, Rey and the stage and barely 2,000 people backed it. Those three together isn’t enticing enough for people. For all the people that are waiting until it reaches a certain number are hurting this as well. I don’t understand why you wouldn’t back it first and then cancel if it doesn’t look like it’s reaches your tier versus waiting to back until it reaches the tier. You’re just taking another number away from the total. You won’t get charged yet anyway. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Apr 3, 2023 20:52:51 GMT -5
Whoever thinks there’s value for $400 and all you potentially get is a Rey figure is sadly mistaken. If all the tiers got unlocked yeah it’s a no brainer for value. This crowd fund will die just like WCW did years ago. We would have been better off getting the Raw stage. Please tell me how we would have been better off with the RAW stage. It’s even bigger than the WCW stage and way less toyetic. All the people complaining about the size of the WCW stage would be even more put off by the RAW stage. I doubt it would be any cheaper so the price point issue for some wouldnt be fixed, and the figure options would be even worse. There is no way the RAW stage would get backed especially after this poor showing for the WCW stage. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Apr 3, 2023 20:48:24 GMT -5
Honestly, if I were Bill, Steve, or anyone from Mattel, I would stop with the crowdfunds. We don't deserve them. The amount of complaints, hypocrisy, and flat out bad takes are astonishing. THE VALUE IS THERE. The value is there as long as we reach the stretch goals, but we can't show up as a community to pull this off. This just isn't the community that is willing to pay $400+ for a premium toy. We could barely do $250, and that was a stressful nightmare as well. The value was there for the last crowdfund even without Macho. Just look at the last Marvel HasLab and compare that to either of these WWE crowdfunds. It is literally night and day. I am sick of hearing of Mattel's greed. This is a legitimate piece with five exclusive ultimates. The value is certainly there. The constant complaints and hypocrisy need to stop. If you are not backing it then that's fine. But we don't need your negativity here and we certainly don't need you "wishing it will fail." All I see are just awful takes like: 1. This was a bad time to run the crowdfund - What? How? What better time would there be? They ran the crowd right after tax season and it is not competing with another crowdfund or any type of con. 2. They shouldn't run it alongside the reveals - Why would that matter? Those Ringside Exclusive DM aren't coming out yet and will be available for awhile. You didn't NEED to buy those right away. That was your choice. Plus, all the other reveals such as the Survivor Series 2-pack, won't charge until it is released. This has nothing to do with the current crowdfund. 3. They should just release one package with one price for the stage and all five figures - That is just not how a crowdfund campaign works. 4. We shouldn't back this so they can release the figures separately - How can we guarantee that that will happen. If anything, we are showing Mattel that we aren't interested in 11,000 of this figures so why would they mass produce them? Also, if you follow any other crowdfund campaigns, those figures rarely get released separately if the crowdfund doesn't get backed (i.e Mephisto). 5. Do a crowdfund of just figures - That is simply not premium enough. A crowdfund is needed for something that could not make it to a stores shelves. Why would we need a crowdfund for just figures? 6. They should charge $33 for 12 months - Again, anyone who says this just doesn't understand how this works. Mattel needs the money upfront so they can pay to have the items made. They are not going to wait on your money each month when they would theoretically need over 4 million to create the stage if 11,000 back it. You can't expect Mattel to just lay out the money themselves. 7. (This is the worst one) I don't have enough space/ I would have purchased the RAW stage instead - The amount of people complaining about space/ money, but would back the RAW stage is completely mindboggling. Did you see pictures of the RAW stage?! It is way, WAY larger and way less toyetic. There is no way that you would have room for this if you can't find room for the WCW one. Now I do understand if you're just not a WCW fan. That is fine. But we are never going to get any other entrance stage of that magnitude if this doesn't get backed. This isn't a threat to make someone purchase it, but it is the truth. $400 is a lot of money and yes this is extremely large, but I can promise you that if we show Mattel that we can't handle something this large or this expensive, then we will never get the RAW stage, the Smackdown Fist stage, or any other large entrance stage. I don't even know if they'll do anyone crowdfunds after this nightmare. This isn't to persuade anyone to back the project. I just don't want to hear these ridiculous criticisms or ideas anymore. It is what it is. If you like it and can afford it, then back it. If not, don't back it but leave your negativity to yourself. For anyone "wishing it will fail," might as well wish for any future projects to fail as well. ”We don’t deserve them” is a pretty bad take in itself. I wouldn’t tar all collectors with the same brush. Also, Mattel doing $33 a month payments is indeed unnecessary, but it would have made this a lot easier for a lot of folks if they would have gone with one of the many services that split payments into four. As a whole this community has not shown up for this project. We are showing that we can’t handle an item this expensive or this large. We don’t deserve another chance after this one. Why would Mattel think of doing another stage after the lack of support we have shown for this project? It’s not a bad take when there’s evidence. I’m obviously not talking about every collector when I am someone that backed this project (and the last), but as a whole we just whine, complain, and come up with excuses. Also, it’s not that the $33 is unnecessary. It’s that it’s not possible. That is not how a crowdfund works, or why a company even needs to do it. The company needs the funds up front to be able to cover the cost to produce the product. They aren’t just going to sit in their hands for 12 months until you’ve paid all 12 of your $33 payments. If they did that then we wouldn’t see the items for an extra year. People just don’t understand how these things work, but want to critique and give Mattel their ideas as if it’s even possible. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Apr 3, 2023 18:15:27 GMT -5
Honestly, if I were Bill, Steve, or anyone from Mattel, I would stop with the crowdfunds. We don't deserve them. The amount of complaints, hypocrisy, and flat out bad takes are astonishing. THE VALUE IS THERE. The value is there as long as we reach the stretch goals, but we can't show up as a community to pull this off. This just isn't the community that is willing to pay $400+ for a premium toy. We could barely do $250, and that was a stressful nightmare as well. The value was there for the last crowdfund even without Macho. Just look at the last Marvel HasLab and compare that to either of these WWE crowdfunds. It is literally night and day. I am sick of hearing of Mattel's greed. This is a legitimate piece with five exclusive ultimates. The value is certainly there.
The constant complaints and hypocrisy need to stop. If you are not backing it then that's fine. But we don't need your negativity here and we certainly don't need you "wishing it will fail." All I see are just awful takes like:
1. This was a bad time to run the crowdfund - What? How? What better time would there be? They ran the crowd right after tax season and it is not competing with another crowdfund or any type of con.
2. They shouldn't run it alongside the reveals - Why would that matter? Those Ringside Exclusive DM aren't coming out yet and will be available for awhile. You didn't NEED to buy those right away. That was your choice. Plus, all the other reveals such as the Survivor Series 2-pack, won't charge until it is released. This has nothing to do with the current crowdfund.
3. They should just release one package with one price for the stage and all five figures - That is just not how a crowdfund campaign works.
4. We shouldn't back this so they can release the figures separately - How can we guarantee that that will happen. If anything, we are showing Mattel that we aren't interested in 11,000 of this figures so why would they mass produce them? Also, if you follow any other crowdfund campaigns, those figures rarely get released separately if the crowdfund doesn't get backed (i.e Mephisto).
5. Do a crowdfund of just figures - That is simply not premium enough. A crowdfund is needed for something that could not make it to a stores shelves. Why would we need a crowdfund for just figures?
6. They should charge $33 for 12 months - Again, anyone who says this just doesn't understand how this works. Mattel needs the money upfront so they can pay to have the items made. They are not going to wait on your money each month when they would theoretically need over 4 million to create the stage if 11,000 back it. You can't expect Mattel to just lay out the money themselves.
7. (This is the worst one) I don't have enough space/ I would have purchased the RAW stage instead - The amount of people complaining about space/ money, but would back the RAW stage is completely mindboggling. Did you see pictures of the RAW stage?! It is way, WAY larger and way less toyetic. There is no way that you would have room for this if you can't find room for the WCW one. Now I do understand if you're just not a WCW fan. That is fine. But we are never going to get any other entrance stage of that magnitude if this doesn't get backed. This isn't a threat to make someone purchase it, but it is the truth. $400 is a lot of money and yes this is extremely large, but I can promise you that if we show Mattel that we can't handle something this large or this expensive, then we will never get the RAW stage, the Smackdown Fist stage, or any other large entrance stage. I don't even know if they'll do anyone crowdfunds after this nightmare.
This isn't to persuade anyone to back the project. I just don't want to hear these ridiculous criticisms or ideas anymore. It is what it is. If you like it and can afford it, then back it. If not, don't back it but leave your negativity to yourself. For anyone "wishing it will fail," might as well wish for any future projects to fail as well.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Apr 2, 2023 12:36:31 GMT -5
He’s not under a WWE deal. He‘s not said to be under a WWE deal. Not sure if serious… |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Apr 1, 2023 17:05:09 GMT -5
This is not accurate. If it gets funded by April 7th, then Hogan is unlocked for everyone. If it does not get funded by April 7th, then no one gets Hogan. It is not like how it was with Savage. You’re absolutely right. I was wrong. IF the stage is fully funded by April 7, everyone gets Hulk regardless of when you back. Glad that’s clear now, now what say we get to 5K by April 7 and carry on? I hope we do, because if we don't reach Hogan then I think the whole thing fails. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Apr 1, 2023 16:05:49 GMT -5
If funded by the 7th everyone til may 5th gets a Hogan figure Not exactly. IF fully backed by April 7th (5K backers) and IF you are one of the 5K by that date, you get the Hogan. If it isn’t fully backed, you don’t get the Hogan even if it goes over 5K afterwards. And you do not get the Hogan if you back after the April 7th date. Hence, an early bird - a carrot to get you to back and to help get it over the finish line early. Theoretically it also makes it more likely to get the other figures too since you are already over the back point, meaning additional sales just sweeten. This is not accurate. If it gets funded by April 7th, then Hogan is unlocked for everyone. If it does not get funded by April 7th, then no one gets Hogan. It is not like how it was with Savage. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Mar 31, 2023 22:23:31 GMT -5
How does Flair always make everything about him? Did he even say more than two things about Muta?
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Mar 29, 2023 17:30:15 GMT -5
I just backed it, but I am worried that we will not hit Steiner. I definitely do not think we will get Warrior.
If for whatever reason we don't get Hogan, then I think it fails altogether.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 12, 2023 20:09:31 GMT -5
I think we need to consider the fact that AEW only has 4 major pay per views a year so they need to put on big-time shows and matches more often on weekly television. WWE has a PLE every month so they can use their weekly shows to build to bigger matches and moments on the bigger shows. Both companies have a completely different model on how they run their shows and build to bigger matches.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 5, 2023 18:45:20 GMT -5
Why did you make two separate threads for essentially the same topic? Austin vs Lesnar & Austin vs Reigns are two different matches, storylines etc so why not? It’s most likely not happening anyways but still a good discussion. Both are matches pitched for Austin. You could easily have one thread discussing both options because the overall idea is what was pitched to Austin. You’re doing the same thing with two WM threads. You can ask people for the best and worst WrestleManias in the same thread. There is no reason to flood the page with all of your redundant threads. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Feb 5, 2023 9:45:41 GMT -5
Why did you make two separate threads for essentially the same topic?
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 26, 2023 15:33:45 GMT -5
That’s not true. The last two sets do not have 3 legends. The most recent set is Vader (Legend), Brie (Legend), Rey (Current), and Priest (Current). You could argue that Rey is a legend/ flashback since he’s depicting his appearance from (I believe) 2006, however Rey is a current roster member so he doesn’t need a legends contract. However, last years set is definitely 2 and 2. It was Big E, Dakota Kai, Yokozuna, and Earthquake. Definitely not 3 legends there. Not sure how we can consider something “current” and not a flashback just because that individual is on the roster. By doing that, we’re getting current talent in the legends line - i.e AJ in 17 and Paul in 18. Not sure if that makes sense. That’s how I look at it. I said that an argument could be made that it’s a legend/ flashback figure making it 3 out of 4 legends, but the previous set definitely is not. I was disputing the fact that the last TWO sets were at least 3 out of 4 legends which is definitely not true. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 25, 2023 9:26:15 GMT -5
Not sure why so many think it’s so improbable that’ll be 4 flashbacks. First series were all flashbacks and the last two were 3/4 flashbacks. Seems less likely they’ll have 3 versions of the same wrestler than 4 flashbacks. That’s not true. The last two sets do not have 3 legends. The most recent set is Vader (Legend), Brie (Legend), Rey (Current), and Priest (Current). You could argue that Rey is a legend/ flashback since he’s depicting his appearance from (I believe) 2006, however Rey is a current roster member so he doesn’t need a legends contract. However, last years set is definitely 2 and 2. It was Big E, Dakota Kai, Yokozuna, and Earthquake. Definitely not 3 legends there. |
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 24, 2023 21:38:51 GMT -5
Generally, there are 2 legends and 2 current guys in each wave (at least that was the case for the last two waves). Also, there’s no way that the one wave will have 3 figures from the same rumble. So, unfortunately, I don’t think you’ll get your four choices. I do think that the HBK is a great choice and a definite possibility. Lawler would be a great BAF as well. Maybe Mick Foley from RR2004 instead?
I don’t have any current roster member guesses because they could very well pick from this years rumble and there’s no way of knowing without seeing the rumble first.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Jan 14, 2023 15:17:45 GMT -5
You are sucking the fun out of the Rumble.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Dec 27, 2022 0:52:36 GMT -5
I recently saw pictures of a Bloodline Foam Finger. Was this available online? Or is this only available at a live event?
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Post by voicesinmyhead on Dec 19, 2022 16:30:06 GMT -5
Even if they could, they wouldn't get to it until 2033.
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