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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 24, 2020 14:23:10 GMT -5
They did get over a million their first 3 weeks and if it wasn’t for the pandemic, Blood and Guts would have. If Omega and the Bucks won too much you’d be complaining that they always win because they’re executives of the company. I don’t have a problem with job guys getting some offense as a complete one sided match is boring. Plus maybe these guys will be more than jobbers in the future. Spike Dudley is a bodybuilder compared to Marko Stunt. So I agree with that. The women’s matches have mostly been sloppy. They should hire Dave Finlay. I don’t know if a sports-based product would appeal to the masses so maybe that’s why they changed their mind about that? One thing I don’t like about AEW is they have too many “outlaw mud show” wrestlers and that could be one reason a lot of fans have left after the first 3 shows. I stated that AEW fails to gain over 1 million viewers EACH week. I understand that they were over 1 million for the first few weeks but that is not consistent and their numbers have drastically dropped since. The numbers would have went up if the product was successful, or if people were interested. As for jobbers, if you want Omega to have a competitive match, then put him in with an actual name. They put him in the ring with a guy we have never seen or heard from again and he got actual offense on a former IWGP Heavyweight champion and the current tag team champion. That is simply bad booking in my opinion. It could have been avoided.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 24, 2020 14:19:46 GMT -5
AEW is the next attempt to “change the wrestling world”... WCW tried it, TNA tried it. AEW is far too much like those 2 promotions. My biggest gripe is not building stars and bring in released WWE talent to build a promotion around. Brodie Lee is great, but belongs nowhere near a championship match already. You have all of these “homegrown” talents doing squat. The top 2 championship matches tonight feature ex-WWE talent. Not to mention the expectations that 2-3 more ex-WWE guys may be debuting tonight. Fingers crossed that the ladder match winner will be a step in a new direction for AEW. WCW did change the wrestling world. Without them, the Attitude Era never would have happened. WWE would be alot different if WCW never existed. I 100% agree with this statement.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 24, 2020 14:19:07 GMT -5
AEW has changed the game. First, they become the number 2 Professional Sports Wrestling Entertainment company in the World overnight. Second, they "forced" WWE to step up their game. Third, they're just getting started, and it looks like it will only get better from here. Here's my take on the 10 points. 1. Kenny Omega should have been the inaugural AEW World Champion. Brandi should have been the inaugural AEW Women's World Champion. The Young Bucks should have been the inaugural AEW World Tag Team Champions. They all could have had a 1, 2 or 3 month reign, and then moved forward from there. Cody being the inaugural AEW TNT Champion is the only one they got right. It's their company, and if Dusty Rhodes, Triple H, and Jeff Jarrett did it, they Elite certainly deserved to do it themselves, at least as the first set of Champions. 2. Jobbers are jobbers to a certain extent. The jobbers from the past are not the same as the jobbers of today. Yes they take the loss and enhance the Stars, but they don't have to look like complete jokes. That's saved for the Monsters in squash matches. 3. Marko Stunt is today's 1-2-3 Kid. Wait until he becomes today's Syxx and today's X-Pac, then tell us how you feel. 4. If Kenny Omega wasn't booked to be the 1st AEW World Champion, then Chris Jericho is the perfect choice to be Le Champion. If the Elite built the company from the ground up, then Jericho carried it up to the next level. When Tony Kahn becomes AEW Champion, then we'll revisit this. 5. The AEW TNT Championship Title is a better name than the AEW Television Championship Title. Using "Television" would not have been original. I think the TNT Championship should only be defended on Dynamite, but not necessarily on a weekly basis. AEW should create the AEW YouTube Championship Title next, exclusively for AEW Dark. 6. You're saying that the AEW Women's division lacks Star power. You also said the Men's Main Event scene is full of former WWE talent. Well, what exactly do you want?? Homegrown AEW Men's division with former WWE Divas?? 7. The Win - Loss record is just a nice little featured stat. It doesn't matter what it is, but it is cool to see. When a winner finally loses, and / or when a loser finally wins, it will add that much more to the story being portrayed. 8. The Rankings are useful, but could have been used better. I had an idea a few years back of a ranking system for the WWE based on fan votes right after a pay per view. On the first TV show after a pay per view, the top vote getter would face the 8th highest vote getter. The rest would be 2nd vs. 7th, 3rd vs. 6th, and 4th vs. 5th. The following week, the winner of the 1st vs. 8th match faces the winner of the 4th vs. 5th match, and you get the rest. This gives the fans what they "want", and make booking easier, as for as World, Women's World, and World Tag Team Championship Title matches go. The Championship Title matches should only take place on the pay per views, and now with the TNT Championship, they can. 9. The Tag Team division issue might be the only issue I fully agree with. Kenny Omega should have been the 1st AEW Champion, and Adam Page should have won the AEW Dynamite Diamond Ring. Omega and Page should not have even been in th Tag Team division. Make shift Tag Teams is one thing The Young Bucks should have kept away from AEW. It is what it is. 10. As far as sports feel, you can only do so much to give legitimacy to a scripted show. If they fixed the ranking system, changed it to a seeding system, and basically creating monthly tournaments, you'd get the feel you're looking for. Bonus. When you complain about the referees, you have reached the lowest point you could reach for. And that's the bottom line, if you smell, cause Stone Cold and what The Rock said so, is cooking. First, it is not difficult to become the #2 company in the US when your only other competition for that spot is Impact and ROH. Impact destroyed its own reputation years ago, and AEW poached all of ROH's talent and draws and left them high and dry. Also I wouldn't be so quick to say that AEW is the #2 company is the WORLD. NJPW is way bigger in Japan than AEW is here. That is a fact. Second, I don't believe that they have forced WWE to step up their game because they haven't. Their product has not gotten any better since AEW first aired in October. NXT is still great and was great before, but the main product is still hot garbage. Third, AEW's product has not been improving with time. With more time they have shown more flaws. As for my ten points, we agree on more than you think. You said you really only agree with my ninth point, but you started out with agreeing with what I said about Omega and the Bucks. And you also stated the rankings could be used better. What we are far apart on is Mark Stunt, the women's division, and the win-loss record. To say that Marko Stunt is the next 1-2-3 Kid is the biggest insult to Sean Waltman I have ever heard. That is painful to the ears. In regards to the women's division, you do not need ex-WWE wrestlers for starpower and talent. They have been on air since October. None of their female wrestlers are "over" or becoming stars. You do not need years to make a star. If you believe they need more time than you do not understand how to make a star. Lastly, the slogan of AEW is that wins and loses matter. You said, and I quote, "The Win - Loss record is just a nice little featured stat. It doesn't matter what it is." That is completely counter-productive of their entire product.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 23, 2020 22:10:06 GMT -5
He didn’t mean early in terms of its placement in the card. He meant it’s too early to book the match between Lee and Mox. I agree this match needed more of a build and it’s too early for Lee to lose. Maybe. I mean, that’s objective given we don’t know what’s in the pipeline in AEW. *Subjective
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 23, 2020 22:03:08 GMT -5
Damn good match, Brodie booked well in defeat, but i wouldn't have booked this match this early. To be fair, the 10-man match is their biggest match. Elite vs Inner Circle has been the longest ongoing feud in the company since tv started. He didn’t mean early in terms of its placement in the card. He meant it’s too early to book the match between Lee and Mox. I agree this match needed more of a build and it’s too early for Lee to lose.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 23, 2020 21:54:36 GMT -5
Why is the title match not last? Big mistake not having the title be the main attraction already. Maybe the next match (pre-taped) is bigger & better... Nothing should be bigger than your world title.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 23, 2020 21:52:43 GMT -5
Why is the title match not last? Big mistake not having the title be the main attraction already.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 23, 2020 20:12:04 GMT -5
Kayfabe in its strongest form has obviously been done away with but you can still avoid small things like this. This picture literally takes ALL of the steam out of the feud/ match. Agreed. Take the picture, enjoy the moment... but why does it have to be posted on social media. Imagine a kayfabe picture posted instead... Tyson holding the title, Cody and Hoyt (I can’t remember his current name) looking aggressive at one another. Very Austin/Michaels-esque. Absolutely! That’s exactly what it should be.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 23, 2020 20:05:24 GMT -5
This picture is literally why wrestling/ kayfabe is dead in the water. Lance Archer is supposed to be this unforgivable monster heel and he’s posing for a picture with cody... what the hell. Plus that title is god awful ugly. Kayfabe's been dead for decades. Kayfabe in its strongest form has obviously been done away with but you can still avoid small things like this. This picture literally takes ALL of the steam out of the feud/ match.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 23, 2020 19:58:01 GMT -5
This picture is literally why wrestling/ kayfabe is dead in the water. Lance Archer is supposed to be this unforgivable monster heel and he’s posing for a picture with cody... what the hell. Plus that title is god awful ugly.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 23, 2020 14:11:30 GMT -5
First and foremost, this is simply my personal opinion and I am not here to start any arguments or fights. I am not here to bash AEW or say that WWE is better. I am a fan of wrestling. Period. I enjoy all wrestling and I am not looking for any company to go out of business or for people to lose their jobs.
What bothers me most about AEW is that they claimed that they would change the game. They claimed they would do things the "right" way and would consistently knock WWE for doing "wrong" things. I have watched every single episode of AEW Dynamite and do not see how they have "changed the game." AEW has failed to gain over 1 million viewers each week and the wrestling on the show is no different/ better than wrestling on NXT or NJPW. There are things that I fully enjoyed such as Jericho's title run, and the Cody v. MJF feud, but there are many things that have been bothering me as of late (again this is my opinion, and I am not trying to start fights).
Here are some things that bother me: 1) The usage of Kenny Omega & the Young Bucks - Kenny was the most sought-after free agent before signing with AEW. He had phenomenal matches in NJPW and proved that he was a draw. He has since lost numerous 1-1 matches to top stars, and has been thrown into a makeshift tag-team. The Young Bucks lose way more than they should and it is frustrating when JR says that they are the best tag team but have NEVER won the AEW titles. He should not be able to say that yet. Also, they should have never lost to Private Party in the first round of the tournament. That win for Private Party has done nothing for them since and looking back it was a bad booking decision. They also lost to a new team of Omega/Page with all of their experience.
2) The usage of "Jobbers" - I think we can all agree that jobbers and enhancement talent play an important role in this business. Their job is solely to get another talent over. For some reason, AEW doesn't understand how this role works, and thinks that every single match needs to play out 50/50. For example, on the most recent Dynamite, Moxley gave #10 way, WAY too much offense when Mox is supposed to look good leading into his title defense tonight. Also, Omega gave some nobody a ridiculous amount of offense when we have never seen that guy again. If they want to argue and say that they are trying to build other stars, then that should lead to something.
3) Mark Stunt - Is there really more that needs to be said here? I heard Bubba Ray compare him to Spike Dudley recently and I could not be more taken back by the fact that someone like Bubba thought this.
4) AEW title - To date, the AEW title has only been held by past WWE guys. I understand that the company isn't even a year old yet, but it is still interesting to me.
5) TNT title - The name alone kills me, but the fact that Lance Archer (a guy who only signed recently) is in the finals is another issue to me. AEW is signing too many guys at a rate that no one can keep up with. A lot of their original signings such as Kip Sabian, Darby Allen, and Shawn Spears are being relegated to AEW Dark while Archer gets pushed to the moon.
6) The women's division - AEW's women's division is lacking of starpower and talent. The matches are bad and the Brandi Rhodes storyline was potentially a career-killer for all involved.
7) The win-loss record - I believe that the win-loss record is doing more harm than good. There are almost NO people with .500 percentages. You are either a winner, or a loser. Those that are losing, have almost no hope of recovering. For example, the last time checked, Shawn Spears had a 0-7 or 0-8 record. How do you save a guy, or make a guy look like a threat with that record? There is a reason that you do not keep track of every single win or loss. You can rebuild a guy with a few wins on TV and make him look like he has turned things around, however if you show that his record is 3-9 then it takes that all away. I know that everyone hates the Jinder Mahal title reign, but WWE was able to pull that off because they were able to make him look like a winner again. If they showed a record for Mahal, it would be even worse.
8) The rankings - AEW has shown time and time again that the rankings are pointless. How is Brodie Lee the next title contender when he has only beaten jobbers? Why have a fatal four way match to determine the number one contender for the women's title when you have a number one contender in your rankings? Essentially, the #4 ranked person could pin the #3 ranked person and get a title shot over the #1 ranked person? That doesn't make any sense.
9) The tag division - One of the things that is supposed to make AEW stand above the other promotions is their tag division. To date, the only two pairs of Tag champions are SCU and Omega/Page. I understand that the company is still new and we don't want shor title reigns, but how does a makeshift team of Omega/Page hold the titles before the Young Bucks and Pentagon & Fenix? Also, how can you take things seriously when you have Marko Stunt/ Jungle Boy almost beating Pentagon/ Fenix and when you have that Michael Nakazawa tag match a few weeks ago? Omega and Page were not even the #1 ranked tag team when they challenged for the titles. They won a fatal four way (which I talked about before).
10) Sports feel - These issues, complaints, problems, whatever you want to call them, are in no particular order. However, this one is my biggest gripe with AEW. AEW claimed time and time again that they would have a "sports feel" to their promotion. I would beg to differ after numerous evidence and examples from the episodes I have watched (and again I have watched EVERY episode). I know many people have been complaining about Matt Hardy and the silliness there, but that is not the only example. One of my biggest problems with NJPW is the fact that there are almost no DQ's and that you can introduce weapons whenever you want. That has become the case in AEW as well. There have been many matches where a table, or some other weapon, has been used and the ref doesn't call for a DQ. How can you willingly use a table during a match and not consider that an unfair advantage?
** The referees - This is not a huge issue, but I cannot stand that obsession they have with Aubrey Edwards. She is not the first female ref and she will not be the last. Also, the refs are almost always looking at people when they are doing bad things and never call a DQ.
These are not small things to me and have really been taking away from my enjoyment of AEW. Do not claim to change the world of wrestling, only to make similar mistakes as your competition. No one is perfect, but you should be doing the things you set out to do.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 22, 2020 14:22:07 GMT -5
Not even thinking about purchasing these until I receive my Series 1 order. No reason to throw my money away for figures coming in April 2021.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 19, 2020 11:19:01 GMT -5
daniel bryan is a gimmicky fake wrestler? okay bro. 😂👌 So you’re saying it’s a lie that WWE has no desire for actual wrestlers? How is Lesnar a gimmicky fake wrestler? He is a former NCAA champion and former UFC heavyweight champion. How do you get more real than that in pro wrestling?
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 19, 2020 8:39:20 GMT -5
So if someone finds out they have a terminal illness and they will only live a couple days/ weeks/ months, are people not allowed to hope and wish that they will make it through because it is unrealistic? Dude you obviously have some problems beyond what is going on here. I am sorry if something bad happened in your life that does not allow you to just say the phrase "I hope he is ok." I doubt any of us saying that are sitting here thinking his chances are good. I am saying I hope he makes it because I sincerely WISH that for the guy, but I know that he probably and unfortunately didn't make it. But there is still NOTHING wrong with saying that I wish or hope that he did make it. Also, who am I giving false hope to? I am not talking to his family. And if his family is actually reading this, then I am sorry that they had to come across your insincere comment at a time like this. ...an illness can be misdiagnosed, therefore, is not the same as being swept out to sea and missing for two days... False equivalence. Do you know what that means? Of course you don't. What part of your thick, useless brain is not getting this? There is no hoping he is okay after two days. There was no hoping he was okay after a day. An hour after? Maybe. But at the point the news reached us, it was no longer a rescue mission, but a recovery search. Those are facts based on statistical data, you child. And statistical data doesn't care about your feelings. Also, my comments are anything but insincere. They're certainly more sincere than any of the empty platitudes you all have spouted off here to a man you haven't thought of since the moment he left your WWE screen. You just can't fathom that someone doesn't join in on your empty, meaningless dedications, and kowtow to your line of "thinking". Also, since you're not talking to his family, what are you doing? Trying to score brownie points? Make yourself look good? Please. And my life is great, so again, as stated, spare me your judgment. You know jack about me. You have a problem with what I said? Fine. That's the extent of it. You think I am only giving well wishes because I think his family is reading this? Wow, you are something else. You seriously have no idea what it is like to just be a good person. I can wish someone well and not be looking for "brownie points." I don't care if anyone reads my posts or not. I want him to be well. End of story. I don't need my peers or his family around to say that. Let's just leave it at that. I really don't need to have an argument on a thread about a guy's horrible situation. That is the focus. Not you.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 19, 2020 7:59:19 GMT -5
Why do you have an issue with people saying that they hope he is ok. They are not saying he is definitely going to make it but it is nice to say they want him to make it. I have never seen someone get mad at people for having hope that someone is alive... Not surprised that the first time I see this is on WFigs message board though... Who is mad? Why am I not surprised that someone would not understand what I am saying on the WFigs forum? Why am I *especially* not surprised that it's you? Hoping for him to be alive given the circumstances is unrealistic. Period. You want to give well wishes? Give it to the family whom is mourning the loss of a husband, a son, a father. Give well wishes to his son, who has to go on living with the fact that his father made sure that HE was safe, sacrificing his own life for his. That young man will need a lifetime of counseling. Give your respects to the departed. As I said-- since you clearly glossed over my post so you can virtue signal and be the first to white knight this thing-- he was by all accounts a wonderful human being. He deserves proper dedications. But to possibly give false hopes to people is unhealthy and unrealistic. You have a problem with that? My DMs are open. It's a crappy situation, and it's only compounded by people like you who live in fantasy land. So if someone finds out they have a terminal illness and they will only live a couple days/ weeks/ months, are people not allowed to hope and wish that they will make it through because it is unrealistic? Dude you obviously have some problems beyond what is going on here. I am sorry if something bad happened in your life that does not allow you to just say the phrase "I hope he is ok." I doubt any of us saying that are sitting here thinking his chances are good. I am saying I hope he makes it because I sincerely WISH that for the guy, but I know that he probably and unfortunately didn't make it. But there is still NOTHING wrong with saying that I wish or hope that he did make it. Also, who am I giving false hope to? I am not talking to his family. And if his family is actually reading this, then I am sorry that they had to come across your insincere comment at a time like this.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 18, 2020 23:08:48 GMT -5
I'm sorry to sound so cold and heartless, but those of you saying that you hope he's found alive--where? How? It's a sad enough situation without these calls for false, fruitless absurdities. There is faith--and then there's irrational hope. You're hoping he washed up on an island? The nearest island is Catalina Beach and is 3 hours from Venice Beach, where he went missing. Can you swim for three hours? In a pool? How about a raging sea? You're hoping he was pushed somewhere else further down the coast? You don't think the FIRST thing he would do is call his family to let them know he's okay? You're hoping he's staying afloat out there, waiting to be rescued? If sharks haven't gotten him, dehydration surely would have, weather dependent, or in the case of the weather's behavior during his search rescue, hypothermia at night. Not to mention, the LONGEST the average person could tread water without a flotation device is 8 hours. That is IF he was still conscious after having been slammed to the seafloor, and drug out to sea--after having been underwater for God knows how long. It is day two, and the rescuers have stopped looking. He was last spotted at 4 PM *Sunday* before a wave crashed down on top of him. It is now heading into early Tuesday morning. Again, not to sound heartless, but he has sadly passed away. This call for superheroic feats that are only what you see in the movies is not helpful, it's not realistic, and it's not healthy. What *I* will hope for is that his body is found so that his family can give him a proper burial. From all accounts, he richly deserves being given his proper respects, and given a rightful resting place. But let's be real here, folks. Why do you have an issue with people saying that they hope he is ok. They are not saying he is definitely going to make it but it is nice to say they want him to make it. I have never seen someone get mad at people for having hope that someone is alive... Not surprised that the first time I see this is on WFigs message board though...
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 17, 2020 15:14:06 GMT -5
Just had a look at the description for one of their masks. "No proven studies that this mask is effective for protections against Covid-19" Why even sell them then? They have to state that because they didn’t ever “test” them. It is a liability issue. If someone wears it and somehow still contracts coronavirus, then they could try to sue and say that the item did not work as promised.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 17, 2020 15:11:42 GMT -5
How do people still misspell Ronda?
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 17, 2020 11:05:40 GMT -5
Way too early for the talents you named. Simple as that. We still don't have a Keith Lee Elite.
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Post by voicesinmyhead on May 15, 2020 21:33:30 GMT -5
Classic Superstars.
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