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Post by SteveHulk on May 12, 2023 1:55:08 GMT -5
Imagine if Cardona somehow got hold of one of the 2 Nitro stages made... I think the internet would explode. 😄
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Post by SteveHulk on May 12, 2023 0:10:35 GMT -5
The Cody figure is annoying just because it cost extra and the tights aren't even close. If it was 30-35 maybe it would be an easier pill to swallow, I guess. I always thought Series 10 was a complete throwaway set as far as honorable mentions. I can't speak for the Rock, but the U10 Cena is great. I'd argue it's far superior to the UE5 one thanks to the attire choice and butterfly joints (which in Cena's case are actually quite beneficial for his poses and etc.) Personally, I much prefer the UE5 attire... blue jorts is iconic Cena to me. I've always thought the UE10 Cena is kind of bland... out of all the great/colourful attires Cena's had, they go for black jorts with a black shirt? |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 11, 2023 23:52:38 GMT -5
...Mankind
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Post by SteveHulk on May 11, 2023 23:51:15 GMT -5
UE7 Hollywood Hogan
UE13 Hulk Hogan
UE9 Ric Flair
UE6 Rock
UE11 Kane
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Post by SteveHulk on May 11, 2023 5:09:29 GMT -5
It was scheduled for a Walmart release for Survivor Series in 2019. They canned the whole line. It was Braun/Miz, Trips/Goldberg and Heenan/Monsoon.13 years - and only 1 Gorilla Monsoon figure (that had a limited release)... He'd be perfect for a future BAF. |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 11, 2023 1:51:16 GMT -5
I'm going to have to make my first RSC order ever for these -- so good. The Richter and Hogan feel like a huge step back (I also hate pre-Hasbro figure selection) I don't know... I'm kind of digging them. I'm down for any time period though, up to the mid 00's. Wish we could get 4 Retro sets per year(!). |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 11, 2023 1:48:44 GMT -5
I am in UK and got my shipping notification  Finger's crossed we don't get charged (by customs) for them... |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 10, 2023 21:24:56 GMT -5
I do think they will try again with the Nitro stage down the road. If they fix international shipping and pick better figures they’ll have no problem getting 5000 backers. Heck with what they offered they almost got there already. I don't know... they seem reluctant to change (or even address) the international issue - it wasn't just for this set... it's the Mattel Creations site as a whole since they started to included prices in GBP (rather than USD) and also add their own duties/taxes 🙄. They're over-charging on everything. Plus, if they try again with the set, it will probably be in a couple of years... and by then, it'll be even more expensive. |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 10, 2023 19:45:13 GMT -5
Just got my shipping notification! ...me too! |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 10, 2023 19:43:55 GMT -5
I should have posted this earlier... Given the failure of the Nitro stage, I want to see if we can show Steve that there is still support for the RAW stage. I think a lot of us wanted the RAW stage anyway.  |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 10, 2023 19:32:38 GMT -5
...all you guys in the US, anyway 😉 International Shipping: - There’s no convincing international buyers to buy this who think that they’re being overcharged or that the cost of shipping added to price put it out of their range.
- Mattel isn’t going to change it.
Can we put this discussion to rest? It is what it is. No hard feelings. Y’all can sit this one out if y’all wanna. The fact of the matter is that Americans don’t need foreign help on this. We can easily fund it on our own. So let’s also stop thinking “Welp, we ain’t got the support of the Brits on this so let’s call it a day.” |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 9, 2023 5:58:56 GMT -5
has it ever been addressed what happened to his 3rd head? No - and I wonder which head is missing: ...the best there is ...the best there was ...or the best there ever will be? 🤭 |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 9, 2023 4:02:08 GMT -5
I've said before - that RAW stage is ridiculously big. And from what I've read, it sounds as if the price would actually be nearer $600. So either the size or price - or both - would rule out the majority of collectors... I don't think it would stand a chance of being funded.
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Post by SteveHulk on May 9, 2023 0:02:50 GMT -5
They have still never nailed Bret Hart, Hall/Razor, or Lex Luger. There have only been about 2 good Andre heads as well. Each guy listed has had improvements made but they never quite nailed them in my opinion. This. Also, it should have been the Raw is War stage. I have heard all of the back and forth about how the Raw stage was boring, would be massive, could cost more, etc. But you know what? It would have been funded. That is where your fans are at. Nitro was more niche with today’s collectors and that was too high of a price point with underwhelming offerings. Instead it felt like Mattel wanted to either A) Do what THEY wanted to do or B) Made a strategic error by thinking collectors would be pressured into buying the Nitro stage in the hopes of getting the Raw stage next. It was pretty much double-dipping and now nobody wins. Personally, I don't think it would have been funded either: it's ridiculously big(!) and without would have probably cost $600+. Not to mention, you'd have the same international issues as the Nitro stage had. |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 8, 2023 23:44:29 GMT -5
I actually don't mind "influencers" getting sent things by Mattel... a lot of the time, their videos and reviews are very well made and informative and must take quite a bit of time and effort to make. I enjoy the ones I watch, anyway.
Having said that though, it does seem a bit strange that Mattel are sending reviewers a figure that is long sold-out and unavailable(?). But really... who cares? It's up to Mattel.
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Post by SteveHulk on May 8, 2023 23:03:20 GMT -5
And why release a 5-pack when there are a LOT of avenues for them to release figures individually right now. Between main lines, store exclusives, and Mattel Creations, they already have a ton of slots for figures. And a decade into the line, there are only so many super-desirable figures left (or even remakes, for that matter). The entire point of crowd funded projects is to explore bigger, more expensive collector-oriented pieces that wouldn't fit at existing retailers. I don't get why people keep trying to force a square peg into a round hole to scale these projects to their personal collecting interests or budget. Why would I want to pay around $350 shipped for "crowd funded" figures when those same figures could easily slot into other lines at regular retail cost? Or be forced to buy 5 figures when you only want a portion of what’s being offered. Imagine if they bundled the crowdfund figs into a Best of WCW set the amount of complaints we’d hear.I actually think it would do pretty well(!). Sure, there'd be complaints that they're not available individually - but $200-$250 is a far more reasonable and affordable price. Not to mention, a lot of people were either backing a $400 item - or hoping to back it - primarily for the figures offered... I can't see many Warrior collectors turning a set like this down, even if they had little to no interest in the other figures. Likewise, if you're only interested in, say 3 of the 5 figures, you'd probably back the set to get them and just sell (or keep) the other 2 figures. |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 8, 2023 22:53:45 GMT -5
What are we funding? There’s nothing about a 5 pack of figures that’s too high risk and too expensive that they need the consumer to fund it themselves before moving forward with production. They can just make it and sell it on Mattel Creations or do an open preorder. And why release a 5-pack when there are a LOT of avenues for them to release figures individually right now. Between main lines, store exclusives, and Mattel Creations, they already have a ton of slots for figures. And a decade into the line, there are only so many super-desirable figures left (or even remakes, for that matter). The entire point of crowd funded projects is to explore bigger, more expensive collector-oriented pieces that wouldn't fit at existing retailers. I don't get why people keep trying to force a square peg into a round hole to scale these projects to their personal collecting interests or budget. Why would I want to pay around $350 shipped for "crowd funded" figures when those same figures could easily slot into other lines at regular retail cost? The thing is, a lot of people like large/themed/boxsets of figures - and something like 5 UE figures in a large box for $200-$250 would NEVER be offered at retail. And as proven with the MC exclusive figures - and the discussions over the New Gen and Nitro Stage - the interest is definitely there for figures and figure sets... the New Gen set was probably funded because of the Macho figure and desire to get Doink. Likewise, there seemed to be far more talk and interest over the Nitro figures, than the actual stage itself. With the failure of the Nitro stage - and probable failure of a Raw stage (which is even bigger and more expensive), the market just isn't there for these types of things. So why not try a figure set? Personally, I think something like an UE NWO figure set, offered for around $200-$250 would have done much better than the Nitro stage: exclusive/tanned Hollywood Hogan, Nash in all-red, Hall, Syxx, and exclusive Eric Bischoff (instead of with the Nitro ring). All in a sexy NWO box (maybe a window-flap box?) - with further figures available/added at various tiers. |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 8, 2023 5:41:06 GMT -5
Am I the only one that backed it thats not completely unhinged & distraught that it didnt pass through? I mean...its a toy. A really cool toy Id love to have....but Jesus some of you need to seek professional help. Nah, it's $400 I didn't really need to spend.... and I wasn't entirely sure how I was going to display it anyway. Plus, I sort of figured like 3 weeks ago that it probably wasn't going to get funded.... It would have been real nice to have - but I've moved on. I'm legit a bit surprised/disturbed that some people are still going on and on about this and hounding Steve - still suggesting solutions - asking for an extension - scolding Steve for not marketing it better, STILL reminding us about the International prices - - - guys, the fans spoke with their wallets - they didn't want it. Mattel is moving on - the Nitro stage, and those figures will be buried, at least for a couple years. Accept it. I'm also legit surprised that there are admitted Non-backers STILL going on and on about this.... what is your obsession with this item that you didn't want? What else am I going to do... talk to the Mrs? Play with the kids? 🤭 Seriously though, although I didn't actually want the stage itself, I still find stuff like this really interesting... the different figures offered, the marketing, the changes, seeing how well or poorly it would do etc. And I like seeing all the different opinions/views/ideas of other people interested in the campaign too... whether they backed it or not. And I'm not gonna lie, I was kind of hoping if enough noise was made, then something might have been done about the international issue... I'd have probably ended up backing it then, hoping we got Rey, Steiner and at least DDP... (Warrior really grew on me too). |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 7, 2023 23:04:55 GMT -5
Out of the options, Eddie no doubt. I'm one of the few that really like Cody though, apart from the strange coloured tights - at least the jacket can mostly cover them up though... Eddie will still look massive with his shirt on. Diesel. Zero effort put into that figure. Especially compared to what you got with Macho and Doink. Plain boring attire which was already done as an elite, only 1 extra head and hands, and only a vest as an accessory. Easily the least “ultimate” Ultimate Edition figure. This is the correct answer. They could have at least included an extra head (even one of the previous Diesel heads to save on new tooling) and an extra pair of hands. And the figure really should have come with the winged eagle title belt too... |
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Post by SteveHulk on May 7, 2023 22:45:11 GMT -5
I don’t see why there was a deadline to begin with, I know it helps with getting ppl to back it sooner, but maybe they should have added an extra week just to get what they could then back the rest themselves. You can’t tell me mattel is that money hungry they need that money right then, put it on mattel creations and they would definitely sell within a year when people realize it’s limited to 1k. An honest question -- what do you think could have changed in 1 week? Even if they did more advertising, I think it was pretty clear that only around 4,000 people wanted this, unless they changed international shipping
Exactly. And actually, that number was probably closer to 3000 people - as there were at least 3 "250 jumps" where (we presume) stores bought them in quantity to sell on. At the end of the day, I think these types of items (stages and the like) only appeal to a small section of collectors... they're just too big and/or expensive for most people. |
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