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Post by Boy Wonder on Oct 3, 2017 20:52:41 GMT -5
I'm watching a lot of old school stuff too and would definitely like a Graham, Backlund, Ladd and Patera. But I'm probably going to be getting a lot of Jakks figures now, which seems like a big step backwards. Backlund got scanned last year. Guessing his figure got canned after him and Darren disappeared from TV. Still a perfect candidate for the HOF line. Graham has been signed for close to 2 years without a peep about any merch. I figured we'd see something by SDCC that year, but boy was I wrong. Graham is going to lose his contract before Mattel jumps on the chance and they'll have blown their opportunity.
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Post by Mr Ezekiel Jackson If Ya Nasty on Oct 3, 2017 21:52:54 GMT -5
I'm watching a lot of old school stuff too and would definitely like a Graham, Backlund, Ladd and Patera. But I'm probably going to be getting a lot of Jakks figures now, which seems like a big step backwards. Backlund got scanned last year. Guessing his figure got canned after him and Darren disappeared from TV. Still a perfect candidate for the HOF line. Graham has been signed for close to 2 years without a peep about any merch. I figured we'd see something by SDCC that year, but boy was I wrong. Graham is going to lose his contract before Mattel jumps on the chance and they'll have blown their opportunity. Superstar's issue is that he runs down WWE every couple of months for various things. Fun for the anti-WWE crowd. Not so much for the people cutting him a check every month. I would love a Superstar Graham figure but sadly knows it will only be made when he's no longer has internet access. With all of the current various subsets in so many different stores, a standalone legend line would clog an already crowded market that is drying up due to kids not being into non-electrical toys. No matter what superstar lineups and plans we come up with, it all breaks down to retailers feeling it is worth the money. We're lucky that they still feel it is worth it. But another poor holiday season might change that. Especially if TRU goes under.
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Post by erikg on Oct 4, 2017 3:17:28 GMT -5
Backlund got scanned last year. Guessing his figure got canned after him and Darren disappeared from TV. Still a perfect candidate for the HOF line. Graham has been signed for close to 2 years without a peep about any merch. I figured we'd see something by SDCC that year, but boy was I wrong. Graham is going to lose his contract before Mattel jumps on the chance and they'll have blown their opportunity. Superstar's issue is that he runs down WWE every couple of months for various things. Fun for the anti-WWE crowd. Not so much for the people cutting him a check every month. I would love a Superstar Graham figure but sadly knows it will only be made when he's no longer has internet access. With all of the current various subsets in so many different stores, a standalone legend line would clog an already crowded market that is drying up due to kids not being into non-electrical toys. No matter what superstar lineups and plans we come up with, it all breaks down to retailers feeling it is worth the money. We're lucky that they still feel it is worth it. But another poor holiday season might change that. Especially if TRU goes under. I thought WWE Mattel was the best selling line last year.
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Post by hitmancmedge on Oct 4, 2017 5:03:57 GMT -5
Superstar's issue is that he runs down WWE every couple of months for various things. Fun for the anti-WWE crowd. Not so much for the people cutting him a check every month. I would love a Superstar Graham figure but sadly knows it will only be made when he's no longer has internet access. With all of the current various subsets in so many different stores, a standalone legend line would clog an already crowded market that is drying up due to kids not being into non-electrical toys. No matter what superstar lineups and plans we come up with, it all breaks down to retailers feeling it is worth the money. We're lucky that they still feel it is worth it. But another poor holiday season might change that. Especially if TRU goes under. I thought WWE Mattel was the best selling line last year. They were, and I'm sure they have had a very good year so far too.
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Post by PJ on Oct 4, 2017 6:51:58 GMT -5
I like this idea in theory - but a similar thing was tried before with the Matty Legends (Andre, DDP, Bundy etc.)... and bill said NO-ONE bought them (so much so, that they had to move Miss Elizabeth to a regular Flashback instead). Maybe things have changed and there'd be more interest - but I think the higher prices and shipping might put a lot of people off... I remember, I bought those but the lineup was really, really weak. They should hold out some bigger names -- like Hollywood Hogan, more Savage, Warriors, etc to help prop up the sub. I know this won't happen as the line is slowly dying but I would love it. -- I actually look forward to the day when you can "print on demand" different figure parts. With 3D printer capabilities getting cheaper and better, toy companies will move to this print-on-demand and maybe then we could get a Valentine, or Dino Bravo. I don't think the Lineups was the problem. They didn't promote it. If they are going to sell products on a collector's site then maybe they should have put a little pamphlet in the basics and Elite boxes or printed it on the boxes to purchase them on MattyCollector.com. I am willing to bet 70-80% of their targeted market had no idea that those figures or Matty collector existed.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Oct 4, 2017 7:04:22 GMT -5
PJ I agree man, it had nothing to do with the choices, but most people on the internet have made up their minds that it was the choices. Idk how anyone can say any set from Legends 1-6 was weak at all. All great choices and great looking figures. It’s always been distribution with Mattel.
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Post by SteveHulk on Oct 4, 2017 8:58:04 GMT -5
It makes me want them even more, look how long we've had to wait for Piper for example? ...I get there are still superstars missing, Roddy Piper, Steiner Brothers but like I said I am happy to wait for these. Piper was actually released in the original Entrance Greats line in 2010 - and as an Elite in the Legends 2-pack (with Bob Orton) the following year. And he's had a Basic/Superstar Entrances ("t-shirt") figure too...
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Post by Mr Ezekiel Jackson If Ya Nasty on Oct 4, 2017 12:08:28 GMT -5
Superstar's issue is that he runs down WWE every couple of months for various things. Fun for the anti-WWE crowd. Not so much for the people cutting him a check every month. I would love a Superstar Graham figure but sadly knows it will only be made when he's no longer has internet access. With all of the current various subsets in so many different stores, a standalone legend line would clog an already crowded market that is drying up due to kids not being into non-electrical toys. No matter what superstar lineups and plans we come up with, it all breaks down to retailers feeling it is worth the money. We're lucky that they still feel it is worth it. But another poor holiday season might change that. Especially if TRU goes under. I thought WWE Mattel was the best selling line last year. Compared to previous, overall numbers were down. You can do strong sells but still have disappointing numbers. WWE Network is a top 5 leading content distribution provider in the US but hasn't reached their goal numbers as planned. Same thing. The retail market both online and brick & mortar lives on making profits, not breaking even. Just because Mattel made money doesn't means they did also.
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Post by JKLMD2002 on Oct 7, 2017 16:42:49 GMT -5
I wish Ringside would consider some Golden Era or 70s Flashbacks for an exclusive. Maybe that small a distribution number would be a better fit for some of these guys.
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Post by qdogg on Oct 7, 2017 17:01:48 GMT -5
If they did a test run with the Hardy Boys,Angle, Goldberg, a new sculpt of HBK from his Rockers days or DX days and Razor Ramon in gold or Surfer Sting in all pink that would be sweet.
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Post by erikg on Oct 7, 2017 18:44:01 GMT -5
I wish Ringside would consider some Golden Era or 70s Flashbacks for an exclusive. Maybe that small a distribution number would be a better fit for some of these guys. I have been wondering that for a while now. I mean why do nWo Wolfpack Kevin Nash as an exclusive but Tugboat as a main elite? Wouldn't the reverse make more sense? Nash is going to sell Tugboat is not and hardcore fans are still going to buy Tugboat so why not have made him the exclusive?
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Post by Lego Customs! on Oct 10, 2017 1:24:42 GMT -5
I'm happy with the frequency given the quality. Mattel are heads and head and shoulders above jakks Have to disagree there. Personally I don't think Mattel's sculpts are quite as good as Jakks'. Take Rick Rude for example, I like the Mattel figure but the head looks almost a little cartoony to me, as do a few others. Also cloth clothing is very poor quality by Mattel, it looks so fragile as it's literally just cut to shape leaving the threads exposed which can easily fray and unravel. At least Jakks would hem their clothing. For figures that are double or sometimes even triple the price of Jakks, I really think Mattel must do better or lower their prices a lot.
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Post by Zigzag on Oct 10, 2017 14:44:31 GMT -5
Bill said years ago, any legend not named Savage or Warrior didn't sell. It's the same thing now. 80s legends collectors are a dwindling fan base. "Retro" now is Attitude Era. Wow, then I must be really old...lol. To give you perspective, I was anxiously awaiting, and have since enjoyed the recent WWE Unreleased 1986-1995 DVD set.
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Post by erikg on Oct 11, 2017 2:04:59 GMT -5
Bill said years ago, any legend not named Savage or Warrior didn't sell. It's the same thing now. 80s legends collectors are a dwindling fan base. "Retro" now is Attitude Era. Wow, then I must be really old...lol. To give you perspective, I was anxiously awaiting, and have since enjoyed the recent WWE Unreleased 1986-1995 DVD set. then why did they do berzerker and all those people
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Post by SteveHulk on Oct 11, 2017 12:03:27 GMT -5
Wow, then I must be really old...lol. To give you perspective, I was anxiously awaiting, and have since enjoyed the recent WWE Unreleased 1986-1995 DVD set. then why did they do berzerker and all those people ...this was back in 2010/11 though (before the Legends/Flashbacks figures found their feet). I guess mixing guys like The Berzerker into a series with current-roster figures helps too.
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Post by LA Times on Oct 12, 2017 9:41:52 GMT -5
Superstar's issue is that he runs down WWE every couple of months for various things. Fun for the anti-WWE crowd. Not so much for the people cutting him a check every month. I would love a Superstar Graham figure but sadly knows it will only be made when he's no longer has internet access. With all of the current various subsets in so many different stores, a standalone legend line would clog an already crowded market that is drying up due to kids not being into non-electrical toys. No matter what superstar lineups and plans we come up with, it all breaks down to retailers feeling it is worth the money. We're lucky that they still feel it is worth it. But another poor holiday season might change that. Especially if TRU goes under. I thought WWE Mattel was the best selling line last year. No, Jakks UFC was the best selling toyline
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Post by natureboyfauser on Oct 13, 2017 15:20:06 GMT -5
I agree. Would love to see more Legends!
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Oct 13, 2017 15:50:26 GMT -5
I wish Ringside would consider some Golden Era or 70s Flashbacks for an exclusive. Maybe that small a distribution number would be a better fit for some of these guys. It probably wouldn't. There are a few vocal fans that want obscure/old wrestlers, but it's a severe minority even on here. Many would balk at paying exclusive prices plus shipping on plain-looking toys of figures from well before their fandom. The attitude era is retro now and has an evergreen appeal because the iwc and even WWE themselves idolise it so much. The same is sort of true of the Hogan era too. So even younger fans can get into those eras. But everything from pre-84 has been mostly ignored in terms of company reverence, besides Bruno briefly when they first mended fences with him.
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Post by JKLMD2002 on Oct 16, 2017 23:04:54 GMT -5
I'm not saying too extensive there, but maybe a Backlund, Superstar and Pedro. At the very least enough guys to fight the Samoans :-)
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Post by GreyHaze:Big Bad Booty Daddy on Oct 17, 2017 0:28:35 GMT -5
I wish Ringside would consider some Golden Era or 70s Flashbacks for an exclusive. Maybe that small a distribution number would be a better fit for some of these guys. I have been wondering that for a while now. I mean why do nWo Wolfpack Kevin Nash as an exclusive but Tugboat as a main elite? Wouldn't the reverse make more sense? Nash is going to sell Tugboat is not and hardcore fans are still going to buy Tugboat so why not have made him the exclusive? That's something I've wondered for a while myself. Same with other selections like wolfpac Sting. You'd figure that it's a different attired Sting and it would sell well due to it being a figure that a lot of people wanted. Yet, we get the 25th crow Sting with the same headscan and small torso.
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