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Post by koreygunz on May 31, 2013 16:26:47 GMT -5
Sgt. Slaughter as WWF Champion Kerry Von Erich as IC Champ Marty Jannetty/123 Kid/Bob Holly as Tag Team Champs
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Post by koreygunz on May 31, 2013 16:22:00 GMT -5
AH- well that sheds light on it. I thought the reception aired after the PPV (similar to how its presented on the DVD). I didnt know the reception wasnt aired until after the event. That would make sense then why Sid was there, probably as a replacement for Warrior.
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Post by koreygunz on May 31, 2013 15:21:32 GMT -5
If they were setting up Warrior/Macho vs Jake/Taker, why have Sid save Macho at the wedding ceremony? Where would he fit in? Maybe it would have just been a way to build Sid as a face and he would have had a feud with someone else outside of the Warrior/Jake tiff before turning heel to face Hogan at Mania. Maybe a Sid/Slaughter feud? Warrior was fired at that point. Vince fired him as soon as he came back through the curtain. so it's feasable he threw Sid in there as a quick replacement. Warrior feuded with Taker all summer. then he was betrayed by Jake (with Taker),setting those 2 up against Warrior. then they crashed Macho's wedding reception. it would make more sense to have Warrior come out and run off Jake and Taker,due to the ongoing feud with them,than have Sid come out of nowhere to do it. but,since Warrior was gone, they needed a quick replacement. LOGICALLY,it should've been Hogan who came out and saved Liz and Randy. SummerSlam wrapped up his feud with Slaughter,and he was about to embark on a feud with Undertaker throughout the fall (and Flair,who would assist Taker in the Hogan feud while Jake went off with Sid and Randy). So was the reception angle live? I was always under the impression it was pre-taped, especially with the use of the cobra and the different camera angles used and such. If it was pre-taped, the firing of Warrior would have no bearing on the segment
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Post by koreygunz on May 31, 2013 15:05:34 GMT -5
maybe it would've been Macho & Warrior vs Jake & Undertaker? I could see it working that way,with combination of Jake and Taker vs Warrior throughout the fall while they did the Macho Man reinstatement storyline. the only reason Taker went face was because Jake decided to leave when his contract was up in early 1992,and since they were a team at the time it made sense to feed Jake to the hot Undertaker. plus,even as a heel Taker was popular,while Jake was reviled for the King Cobra incident and slapping women around. Taker was ALWAYS gonna be the face in that feud,no matter what! If they were setting up Warrior/Macho vs Jake/Taker, why have Sid save Macho at the wedding ceremony? Where would he fit in? Maybe it would have just been a way to build Sid as a face and he would have had a feud with someone else outside of the Warrior/Jake tiff before turning heel to face Hogan at Mania. Maybe a Sid/Slaughter feud?
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Post by koreygunz on May 31, 2013 9:57:10 GMT -5
Its been documented that before Warrior was fired at SS91 he was slated to have a feud with Jake Roberts. Had Warrior been around, how would this have effected the direction of WWF going into the fall and winter of 1991? Would Undertaker still have turned face? Who would Macho Man have feuded with and how/when would he have been brought back?
And heres a question Ive wondered. If Warrior/Jake feud was to take place, was the Macho Man Wedding Crashing angle already in place as well? That angle at SS91 seemed to easily set up Macho Man/Jake and Taker/Sid feuds, but how would Warrior have fit in since he was set to feud with Jake after SS? Would they have rushed through the Jake/Warrior feud? Maybe someone like Papa Shango would have been brought in earlier to add to the Jake and Taker stable to feud with Warrior in the mean time?
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Post by koreygunz on May 31, 2013 9:31:11 GMT -5
Were Money Inc. nervous about wrestling LOD or did they not think the Warriors were ready? originally,the plan for SummerSlam 1992 was to have WWF Tag Team Champions Money,Inc. defend against Legion of Doom, with LOD going over and winning back the titles ( a storyline that was being built since after WrestleMania VIII). LOD was made to drop the Belts in the first place due to a failed drug test by Hawk. by SummerSlam,though,there were still issues. I've heard that it was due to contract issues between Vince and LOD. I've also heard it was drugs,again. but for whatever reason,Vince changed course and decided he didn't want to put the Tag Straps back on Hawk and animal,so that's why he had Money,Inc. lose hem to The Natural Disasters shortly before SummerSlam. so they could still have the planned match (and finish) to the LOD vs money,Inc. match and not worry about giving the Belts back to LOD.that being said,it was in hindsight the right choice as Hawk disappeared and went on a drug and booze fueled bender right afterwards,and then quit the company. but the Natural Disasters were never going to be "the" team. they were just used as placeholders til the LOD situation resolved itself. This is also why the NDs were terrible faces. They never would have been turned IMO if they hadnt needed a team to take the straps after they decided they werent going with LOD. At the time, the tag division was loaded with solid heel teams but not many faces. The Rockers ghad been broken up, and after the LOD, the next most over face team was probably High Energy, who obviously werent getting the titles.
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Post by koreygunz on May 31, 2013 9:23:12 GMT -5
^ I think its because hes the kind of wrestler that translates really well into action figure form. Large muscled body, expressive face scans, colorful attires, and he rarely wore the same thing twice so you have a huge inventory of attires to choose from. Plus, regardless of how you feel about him persnally, he was a HUGE star in the late 80s and early 90s, which is a golden era of WWF/E for a lot of collectors including myself.
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Post by koreygunz on May 29, 2013 8:53:59 GMT -5
I think Punk will be a no show at the PPV, which will be great heel heat (a guy noy showing up at a PPV in his hometown) Personally I thought they should have had Curtis Axel in the Highlight Reel in the first place and give him his first real feud with Jericho. Have Heyman offer Jericho a spot on his client list (as he alluded to Jericho being a "heyman guy" in his promo anyway), Jericho declines, Axel doesnt like that Jericho turned down Heyman, Axel beats up Jericho, and now you have a feud.
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Post by koreygunz on May 28, 2013 21:44:53 GMT -5
Keep in mind that Vince brought Warrior back TWICE after the SummerSlam 91 hold up. If Vince thought you could make money he could look past anything, and it goes to show that Warrior was seen as a proven commodity even up until 1996 in the WWE's eyes. I think the only reason the negative DVD was made was to satisfy Vince's ego stemming from the fact that warrior is one of the very few stars to not make amends with the WWE after leaving on bad terms. Hogan, Bret, etc have all mended the fence with Vince and the company in the past but Warrior never has, and apparently never will, which is his perogotive. It still doesnt take away from the fact that in the late 80s-early 90s, he was a huge star.
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Post by koreygunz on May 23, 2013 10:05:40 GMT -5
IIRC, Mattel had said that each of the Flashbacks were in an attire from a Wrestlemania, and the WM 3 version was in the pipeline for Defining Moments before the line was canceled. Savage wore the orange (L5) at Wrestlemania 2 and 4, and pink at 3 and 4 (again). His Wrestlemania 5 attire already has a basic, and since he was "Macho King" at WM 6, I can't see Mattel going with that since they released a much simpler version of the King attire as an exclusive. We already have his WM 7 attire as a DM figure, and he didn't wrestle at WM 9. That pretty much leaves the options as WM 3 pink or WM 8 gold. I think the WM 6 version is too much of a long shot, and I can't see them releasing a WM 9 commentator version. Its make or break for me. If he's in his Neon Cowboy getup, then he will be mine! But WM 3 would be kinda lame and I wouldn't even consider buying. We already have this attire! But only as a basic figure without the entrance gear. I think most hardcore Legends collectors still want to see a better Elite version. FWIW, a neon cowboy attire that isn't specific to one match is my top want for Savage. He also wore a black and silver attire at WM10 which chould be an option
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Post by koreygunz on May 23, 2013 9:20:10 GMT -5
Is it confirmed that he is in his WM3 attire? In the ad on RSC he is pictured in his hat/jacket attire, so could we possibly hold out hope me might get that look instead? Maybe a WM8 or WM10 attire?
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Post by koreygunz on May 23, 2013 9:17:13 GMT -5
AS for sure. Not only for the look of the tights, but you get the trademark python and snake bag as opposed to the cobra, which he only used in his final heel run in the fall of 91.
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Post by koreygunz on May 19, 2013 15:12:01 GMT -5
Last Man Standing Match for the WWE Championship John Cena (c) vs. Ryback
Number 1 Contender for the World Heavyweight Championship "I Quit" Match Alberto Del Rio vs. Jack Swagger
Steel Cage Match Triple H vs. Brock Lesnar
Strap Match Sheamus vs. Mark Henry
Extreme Rules Match Randy Orton vs. Big Show
Chris Jericho vs. Fandango
WWE United States Championship Kofi Kingston (c) vs. Dean Ambrose
Tornado Match for the WWE Tag Team Championship Team Hell No (c) vs. The Shield's Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns
Extreme Rules Pre-Show Match: The Miz vs. Cody Rhodes
Will CM Punk Appear? Yes or No
If I win id like E21 HTM
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Post by koreygunz on May 16, 2013 18:32:36 GMT -5
Was an elite Antonio Cesaro confirmed for a future elite series? I was thinking I saw somewhere he would be in E23
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Post by koreygunz on May 16, 2013 8:48:29 GMT -5
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Post by koreygunz on May 10, 2013 20:07:56 GMT -5
Its pretty well accepted that Bret Hart's WCW run was a dud. However, as I thought about what could have been differently, I think its harder to book Bret in WCW than you might think. I thought about some of the possibilities and the problems that might be presented with them.
1. Feud with Hollywood Hogan for the title It would seem easy enough to bring Bret in as a face a feud with the top heel, Hogan. However, the problem here is the steam it would have taken away from Sting at the time. Yes, WCW botched Sting's return at Starrcade and thereafter anyway, but to my point, if booked correctly, Sting would have been the champion going into 1998 and been the man to really put a chink in the armore of the nWo. Regardless of the fact that I think Starrcade 97 should have been the beginning of the dissolution of the nWo with Sting as the antagonist, they could have run the Sting/Hogan feud out further with Hogan eventually regaining the strap and then moving on to a fued with Bret. But what would Bret have done for those 3-6 months? Do you push his debut back?
2. Feud with the nWo/Ending the nWo Another idea Ive heard is that Bret (perhaps along with a reimagined Hart Foundation) should have been the one to finally go to war and end the nWo. But I dont think people would have bought that. Bret was not a guy you sold as a guy who could take on five guys at a time or was a "superhuman" like Hogan or Cena, or even Sting. Even with Foundation back up, I dont think it would have went over well to have Bret be the guy to finally end the nWo for good. Besides, guys like Sting and especially Goldberg were more made for that role.
3. Heel Turn Been there, done that. Bret did not work as a heel in WCW. And why would he? He had just been screwed over by the competition, had all the sympathy in the world going for him, and you turn him heel? Not only that, but then you try to make him the leader of the new nWo, with guys who made their names in the same company that he was screwed in and pushed out of? Makes no sense. Outside of the WWF, Bret Hart as a heel simply doesnt work IMO.
So how would you have booked Bret Hart in WCW? My idea would kind of be a combo of scenarios. Bring him in as a face, the nWo tries to recruit him (as they did early on). Ater a few months of teases, Bret makes his choice to be on Team WCW. He then becomes the nWo number one target. Attacks, interference, etc. MAYBE you bring in Bulldog and Anvil as his back up, maybe along with guys like Benoit. Hogan gets the title along the way and they feud over the title with Bret ultimately winning it for his first WCW Title reign. This is the direction I think they were initially going with him but were not patient enough nor smart enough to pull it of. From there he fueds with a gallery of heels before losing the title to someone like Sting or Goldberg.
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Post by koreygunz on May 8, 2013 16:14:53 GMT -5
April O'Neil (with cameraman Arnett) in her signature yellow
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Post by koreygunz on May 5, 2013 15:10:44 GMT -5
If so, what do you think?
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Post by koreygunz on May 3, 2013 15:27:35 GMT -5
I really wished Kane had kept the half shaved hair and goatee look he had the night he unmasked. I never really understood why they changed it to the bald head/clan shaven look so quickly.
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Post by koreygunz on May 3, 2013 9:40:14 GMT -5
I think the answer is Owen Hart because, in my opinion, the KOTR win did the most for his career than any other winner. Even after his heel turn, Owen was really just looked at as "Bret's little brother." After dropping the WWF Title, Bret had been placed in mid card feuds, really, with the likes of Jerry Lawler and Doink (due to Hogan leaving, but thats another topic). When Owen turned heel at SvrS in 93, I think most people just saw him as the next logical guy for Bret to feud with, but was still a mid carder at best. And most definitely no one thought he would beat Bret at WM10. That win at Mania was the start of Owen's rise, but after Bret regained the title that same night, Owen winning KOTR placed him as a formidable opponent for Bret in the fans eyes. He proved he could get it done in the ring, he had a good running mate in the Anvil, and it really opened up his heel personality and character by being the "King of Harts" and not just "The Rocket." Though he still had the whiny little brother aspect to him, the KOTR gave legitimacy to his persona as well.
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