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Post by Yambag Jones on Jun 19, 2020 19:49:35 GMT -5
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Post by rkmo: Autonomous Meat Shield on Jun 19, 2020 20:03:48 GMT -5
Why is he the only one trending on Google right now?
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Post by snowjorden on Jun 19, 2020 20:05:51 GMT -5
The t-shirt company must have something to do with it.. -_-
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jun 19, 2020 20:20:54 GMT -5
Why is he the only one trending on Google right now? I don’t know, maybe because he’s not released yet (interesting move for AEW to wait until he’s out of rehab). The whole UK scene is f*cked.
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Post by rkmo: Autonomous Meat Shield on Jun 19, 2020 20:32:47 GMT -5
Why is he the only one trending on Google right now? I don’t know, maybe because he’s not released yet (interesting move for AEW to wait until he’s out of rehab). The whole UK scene is f*cked. It's just odd, with a couple guys in a promotion with a much larger footprint having things alleged as well, one winning his debut on basic cable. (And I've come across your post elsewhere about Dev and Rid)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2020 20:39:49 GMT -5
I see Gallagher and Riddle trending but not havoc?
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Post by wheeljack83 on Jun 20, 2020 7:53:27 GMT -5
The feeling I almost get from this announcement, and this is just my opinion and speculation, I get the sense that AEW was aware of his issues beforehand and didn't really do anything about it until now.
Keep in mind, he started a drunken fight with Excalibur last November.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2020 7:57:22 GMT -5
Never really liked the guy so I'm not bothered by this. I did somewhat like his team with Sabian but he won't be missed by me, especially since he seems to be a scumbag
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Jun 20, 2020 8:52:42 GMT -5
I haven't read into the allegations against him, but I find AEW's approach to not firing the guy and helping with rehab an interesting move. Did he do something that broke the law?
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Post by figurecollector on Jun 20, 2020 9:04:07 GMT -5
We are not going to deal with speculation and allegations along the lines of battering and physical abuse that could be later rescinded as was the case with Enzo.
Facts are fine, speculation is not in these areas. He is suspended for substance abuse. If he gets convicted of something, then we will determine if the topic is fit for all ages of members.
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Jun 20, 2020 9:07:39 GMT -5
We are not going to deal with speculation and allegations that could be later rescinded as was the case with Enzo. Its not really speculation though if even Tony Khan says he's aware of it
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jun 20, 2020 9:09:24 GMT -5
We are not going to deal with speculation and allegations that could be later rescinded as was the case with Enzo. That's why I only made the thread about Havoc. There are other people who are being called out in AEW, but Jimmy is the only one who the company has commented on. I promise I'm not trying to start sh*t on here, it just feels like a defining moment (PR and ethically) for AEW.
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Post by figurecollector on Jun 20, 2020 9:14:35 GMT -5
We are not going to deal with speculation and allegations that could be later rescinded as was the case with Enzo. That's why I only made the thread about Havoc. There are other people who are being called out in AEW, but Jimmy is the only one who the company has commented on. I promise I'm not trying to start sh*t on here, it just feels like a defining moment (PR and ethically) for AEW. I meant my comments for something I deleted, not the thread being in existence. Speculation about other issues he has concerning other aspects of his life are not. He is suspended which is factual. If other events are proven, as was being discussed in the deleted post, I will have decide if the comments are appropriate.
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Post by wheeljack83 on Jun 20, 2020 10:25:07 GMT -5
If we aren't allowed to talk about #SpeakingOut, Jack Gallagher and Matt Riddle, then this thread should be locked up as well as the Cornette one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2020 11:17:35 GMT -5
Just as a note, someone (not here) claimed this was the case in Florida law and I'm not sure about the exact laws in Florida, but if Jimmy voluntarily enteted himself into rehab aew may actually be legally unable to make any decisions regarding his employment until he has completed rehab.
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Post by Mox on Jun 20, 2020 11:32:47 GMT -5
If we aren't allowed to talk about #SpeakingOut, Jack Gallagher and Matt Riddle, then this thread should be locked up as well as the Cornette one. The other thread shouldn't have been locked. We keep hearing about all the kids that post here as justification for stifling discussion. If it's not 90% grown men posting here then I'm a monkey's uncle.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Jun 20, 2020 12:16:00 GMT -5
If we aren't allowed to talk about #SpeakingOut, Jack Gallagher and Matt Riddle, then this thread should be locked up as well as the Cornette one. The other thread shouldn't have been locked. We keep hearing about all the kids that post here as justification for stifling discussion. If it's not 90% grown men posting here then I'm a monkey's uncle. My favorite part about this place is the "there's not enough threads" posts and then the immediate knee jerk reaction of deleting said NEW thread that are actually worth discussing in favor of a "who do you think will main event WM 6 years from now" thread. Locking the threads isnt the answer. The answer is actually banning the ppl who come into threads only to start problems. It's not like this is a new issue either. It's usually the same few ppl getting things locked.
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Post by wheeljack83 on Jun 20, 2020 12:18:51 GMT -5
If we aren't allowed to talk about #SpeakingOut, Jack Gallagher and Matt Riddle, then this thread should be locked up as well as the Cornette one. The other thread shouldn't have been locked. We keep hearing about all the kids that post here as justification for stifling discussion. If it's not 90% grown men posting here then I'm a monkey's uncle. I agree. I think we were having a civil discussion for the most part Mox. But it's the mods' rules and decisions.
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Post by Mox on Jun 20, 2020 12:22:37 GMT -5
The other thread shouldn't have been locked. We keep hearing about all the kids that post here as justification for stifling discussion. If it's not 90% grown men posting here then I'm a monkey's uncle. My favorite part about this place is the "there's not enough threads" posts and then the immediate knee jerk reaction of deleting said NEW thread that are actually worth discussing in favor of a "who do you think will main event WM 6 years from now" thread. Locking the threads isnt the answer. The answer is actually banning the ppl who come into threads only to start problems. It's not like this is a new issue either. It's usually the same few ppl getting things locked. Totally agree. Locking threads is the reason this forum has died as much as it has. And people need to stop asking for threads to be locked. That's so frickin weird.
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Post by OTC Waxbender on Jun 20, 2020 13:18:20 GMT -5
The other thread shouldn't have been locked. We keep hearing about all the kids that post here as justification for stifling discussion. If it's not 90% grown men posting here then I'm a monkey's uncle. I agree. I think we were having a civil discussion for the most part Mox. But it's the mods' rules and decisions. Exactly. I get their side as well. It's probably easier to just lock threads instead of repeatedly cleaning them up but we also lose a lot of worthy convos in the midst of the obvious trolling. For instance, earlier we had a guy who will remain nameless say that he doesn't believe any victims and he doesn't like the #MeToo movement and now the #SpeakingOut movement bc whatever bs reason. Okay. You don't have to like these things or agree with them but to come into a thread and be discourteous for the sake of a negative reaction sounds pitiful. Like really pitiful.
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