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Post by TheXtremisT on May 13, 2022 10:50:54 GMT -5
Jeff is the only wrestler who goes to AEW and they still make his figures! And Billy Gunn and Jake Roberts
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Post by TheXtremisT on May 12, 2022 13:32:28 GMT -5
Yes, and if mattel wanted the line to succeed they wouldn't be pumping out more Jeff Hardy. He has been gone way to long to have an ultimate coming out. Elite would even be a poor choice, but nope. They are doing exactly what they did with the ultimate fiend and bringing it out months after he left. Ermm... what? So you're an expert on this then? Nothing to do with the fact Mattel are trying to recoup the costs they've sunk in when figures go into development months before the figures hit shelves, it's cos they want a line to fail? Got it
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Post by TheXtremisT on May 9, 2022 16:36:16 GMT -5
Here’s an idea. The sole reason a lot of legends arnt signed to a deal is because the deal isn’t right for them. How about instead of a one size fits all legends deal they work out individual deals for each wrestlers. Ultimate Warrior’s deal is gonna be way different than a Bastion Booger deal. If small toy companies can get deals with talent done then there’s….No reason Mattel / WWE can’t. They just don’t care and that’s sad as collectors. I might be in the minority but I’m sick of the same old ppl over and over again and want obscure random wrestlers. I'll be that guy: how do you know the ins and outs of Mattel's deals with legends? How do you know it's "one size fits all" (?), yet then go and name Ultimate Warrior's deal vs Boogers, knowing full well those are going to be by absolutely no means the same type of deal.... We don't know what goes into the offers on the table, the process in getting likenesses signed over, the politics, the reasoning behind some signing and some don't. Unless you have the inside scoop, you're speculating. But I guess it's fun to make up stories and come to conclusions.
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Post by TheXtremisT on May 5, 2022 5:05:57 GMT -5
BAF Vince has shorter legs like Hart/Ellering/Davis? I would assume not.
The Network Spotlight Vince has IRS legs, and you know what Mattel are like with stubbornly reusing parts for certain guys, even when incredibly inaccurate (Jeff tanktop mold prime example).
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Post by TheXtremisT on May 4, 2022 14:27:37 GMT -5
One thing that gets overlooked was when he tagged alot with Edge in late 1998, they were on fire as a team! Their double moves were actually awesome and looked visually impressive.
Their chemistry was excellent. I think it was a combo of Gangrel's veteran skills and Edge's flawless tag-team mind that came up with exciting double team moves, and his ability to have chemistry with pretty much any partner - even early into his career.
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Post by TheXtremisT on May 3, 2022 11:44:08 GMT -5
Even Bischoff has admitted on 83 Weeks the real life strain between Hogan & Nash made this storyline difficult to manage as it was "art imitating life" & not in a good way that benefitted folks Which makes the whole "NWO-spiracy" with Hogan, Steiner and Bagwell joining the Wolfpac and ruling as best buds in the NWO Elite - all the more confusing and out of the blue. I get there's professionalism and doing what's "best for business/money", and regardless of whether it made sense or not from a storyline perspective (there are pros and cons for this, mostly cons) - from a personal POV, Nash began to play nice with Hogan even backstage due to this, and Konnan has gone on record in shoots saying Kev became a total Hogan stooge again after all the months of being anti-Hogan backstage.... Basically Nash and Hogan kissed and made up despite being at each others' throats for months, which made Kev look like he bowed down to Hogan yet again....
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Post by TheXtremisT on May 3, 2022 3:45:48 GMT -5
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Post by TheXtremisT on May 3, 2022 3:42:25 GMT -5
Man you guys have said exactly what I was thinking. I've just finished all Nitros from 1997 and 1998, and just onto Jan 11th 1999 now.
And although I think the visual of Wolfpac Sting is cool AF, from a storyline perspective - makes 0% sense.
I HATED how he's dropped the anti-NWO (in general) sentiment and became a smiling, fun-loving babyface again. After being the crow Sting, just a massive juxtaposition to his character's mystique.
I also said the NWO Wolfpac should just have been the Wolfpac, no NWO. Just the red shirt with the wolf on the front.
Should have had a war over the NWO name and Hollywood/Black & White came out on top, forcing the Wolfpac to remove the NWO name.
But Hogan and co did their best to make the Wolfpac look secondary to the Black & White, not letting them get the upper hand. So that included keeping Hall, Buff, occasionally not having Wolfpac members come out to stop beat downs, MINIMAL confrontations/matches....
Hogan just made them look like the loner group at the high school who were having fun and Black/White were the "cool kids" sitting at the back of the bus....
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Post by TheXtremisT on Apr 19, 2022 8:10:41 GMT -5
IDK 1998 WWF fans were a different breed. Would he have received a big pop had he appeared? Most likely yeah, but I’m not sure how well Flair would have fit the “attitude era” theme with fans shifting attention to younger/newer stars like Austin, Rock, Foley, HHH, Kane, Taker, etc…Flair just seems to stick out like a sore thumb in this group. And this is coming from a huge Flair fan. I could see Flair being successful had he returned in 2000 or early 2001, but I don’t see fans getting super behind him in 1998 or 1999 just based on the fans and characters at the time. I think it could 100% have worked. The WWF were moving towards the younger, more brash and cocky stars in the AE. But Vince was playing the anti-Austin mega heel boss. Austin embodied the AE. Therefore, Vince could have played up being against what the WWF was becoming. What's more anti-attitude than an older, more established and corporate champion? Flair could have played that role perfectly. The fans would be EVEN MORE against Vince shoving Flair down their throats and more pro-Austin. Flair was so versatile he could have carried that feud no problem and not drawn "go away heat".
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Post by TheXtremisT on Apr 13, 2022 10:05:24 GMT -5
There are about 15 different attires/looks for Sean Waltman that warrant a figure first, let ALONE the fact there are about 30+ wrestlers who warrant an UE before he does.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Apr 7, 2022 5:02:12 GMT -5
I strongly disagree that the Attitude Era started the night Austin won the WWF title at WM14. Strongly.
To say that completely disregards the more edgy storylines/actions the previous few months before - DX doing penis jokes, their poking fun at Clinton; Pillman's XXX files, formation and antics of New Age Outlaws, Austin stunning EVERYONE and flipping people off, NOD being a bit edgy, the use of "ass" during promos, Cornette's promos, "Bret screwed Bret", even the ECW invasion in Feb 1997.... And the biggest sign of all - the "Attitude" promo by Vince and the adoption of the scratch logo in late 1997.
So you're just going to ignore all that?
The New Generation era ends just before WM 13 when Raw is War debuts with the Beautiful People theme on March 16th 1997.
Then it was a period where both New Gen and Attitude were present in some ways.
Attitude's true beginning is a little fuzzy. I don't believe you can count it being with "Pillman's got a gun" or even what Goldust was doing. The rest of the shows were pure New Gen for a loooong time after that. Truly, it was poking it's head after Summerslam 1997, but was slowly and truly ushered in in the following weeks. I'd say it was around Sep-Nov 97, but "officially" began after Survivor Series 1997. That's when things truly heated up.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Apr 1, 2022 16:38:36 GMT -5
Guarantee those legs will look nothing like that. And instead will look like the same long and stringy ones we've always got.
Also - why do we get pointless hands every time now?
Flair got pointed finger hands. Why?
New NWO Macho has open palm hands instead of pointed finger ones. Why?
And now this Goldberg has pointed finger hands. Again - why? Just so he can do the "1" finger pose he did on his debut on Nitro? Why have both hands, instead of one and another hand doing something else?
Well I guess I now know how Macho is going to get his pointed finger hands.... Even if they're the wrong glove type....
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Post by TheXtremisT on Mar 27, 2022 17:04:43 GMT -5
One thing worth noting is that it can turn tacky due to the type of rubber/plastic they used.
Mine did and attracts dirt/spam/fluff/dust.
I haven't tried cleaning it yet but imagine it would help a little but maybe not solve it.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Mar 12, 2022 7:41:50 GMT -5
Hogan was much leaner in WCW so the DM/Survivor Series Hogan torso would be wrong. Maybe I would have used the Bulldog/Austin torso. Hogan was leaner from 1993 - 1997. I’m fine with the Sheamus-torso for that time period, but Hulk put back on some major mass from 1998 to the end of his WCW run. Yeah the Iron Sheik torso is perfect for Hogan from 1998 onwards.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Mar 10, 2022 17:20:36 GMT -5
Ordered August 30th, 2021. Expected for August 9th, 2022 That's my birthday lol I ordered Aug 31st and expected Aug 10-12th `22 so that correlates with your timing.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Mar 7, 2022 18:09:36 GMT -5
Also, to be fair, he didn't do the leg kick thing all that much, he only did that against guys who had leg submission finishers like Bret and Tito. But he did do the flip out of the turnbuckle often. Granted I haven't watched much wrestling pre-New Generation, but I've been watching Nitros from 1997 onwards and he almost did it every match.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Mar 7, 2022 8:53:08 GMT -5
Not a massive fan, but I'm also not a hater of his.
I'd say about 50% was good. But the rest was too forced and took me out of suspension of disbelief.
For the era, I guess it worked. But I feel he gets a pass on this selling whilst Dolph Ziggler is labelled as a "Perfect wannabe" or a "good bumper" and HBK was "overselling" at Summerslam 2005.
Watching the first minute of that video and how he had to force the flips from getting whipped into the turnbuckle and sliding into the post, just made me be like "huh?".
The overuse of the "kicking his leg out of his leg" whilst holding the ropes or flipping over the top rope after a strong punch/chop in EVERY match, waters it down. Sure, it's making the opponent look strong, but too much and it becomes overused/meaningless.
I'd say he was smooth about 50% of the time.
Was he innovative at the time period? Hell yes. Was he great in the ring? Hell yes. But I feel he should have not over-forced the bumps and used them in the major matches rather than every match.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Feb 26, 2022 17:23:07 GMT -5
I thought what he said was the orders being shipped later (IE August 2022) WERE the 2nd production run. As in the ones that went up in late August 2021, compared to the ones that went up in July 2021 (1st run). I think that's correct... basically, as long as you've preordered an UE Hogan, you'll get one once the second production run comes out. I'm not sure how many will be made though... there may be enough to put it up for order again. It's such a very strange way of doing an exclusive (almost phasing or splitting the production runs). So much up in the air about this, and no-one seems to know what's going on other than what AFA said. I imagine all will be ok in the end.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Feb 25, 2022 7:01:10 GMT -5
Hall of Fame doesn't automatically mean figures (still pissed we never got Jarrett). But Steiners are guys who could literally get 20 figures each and still wouldn't come close to covering all their awesome looks. True but Jarrett was because he was under a clause from GFW/Impact that had the rights to his merchandising and prevented him from taking other deals. No idea on the specifics but that's the rub, I doubt the Steiners would have that issue.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Feb 25, 2022 6:58:46 GMT -5
I had a rock n sock preorder on Amazon for three months. It hadn't shipped by the time it was supposed to deliver and was cancelled with some note of "no inventory." I feel that is fully possible here too and once it is known there are no more shipping from Amazon, secondary market prices will go up. True - but we know for a fact that these are going to have a second production run (AFA confirmed it). Hopefully, all pre-orders will be fulfilled. I thought what he said was the orders being shipped later (IE August 2022) WERE the 2nd production run. As in the ones that went up in late August 2021, compared to the ones that went up in July 2021 (1st run).
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