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Post by jcz15 on Jun 16, 2016 20:50:01 GMT -5
I am not against Mattel Re-releasing figures. To be honest and I'm not afraid to say it I was one of those people who got on the Mattel band wagon late and spent maybe a little more than I should have on figures like Mankand, Kevin Nash, and Stone Cold Steve Austin RSE. Besides those figures, I had a list of 3 or 4 figures that I went out and bought and said after that if I can't find the right price on a older figure I wouldn't buy it. So for Mattel to re-release some older figure I'm all in. And even in the first big re-release wave I can get the HBK I passed on then couldn't find a right price for it. I am really looking forward to HOF series 4. The Booker T figure I have always wanted but was one of those figures I could never find a good price for it. Now I feel bad for those people who have those older figures in which I can see prices going down a little due to figures being re-released.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Jun 16, 2016 20:51:05 GMT -5
Nay. I'm not in the game to sell later on, but when the direct re-release figs it seems to cheapen the line to me. Also I like having figs in my collection that are no longer available. Damn back in the days the only time and place to get figs was when you walked in the store. They barely re-released figs back then, so it made it more of a thrill...like damn who should I pick..will they be here next time I come to the store? All part of the thrill that made everyone's collection unique. I'm also feel like it's a wasted opportunity to get them repainted in a different outfit.
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Post by slamtyro on Jun 16, 2016 20:52:14 GMT -5
I support the rerelease concept. Toy collecting should be an enjoyable experience for all collectors instead of a source of profiteering for opportunists. And besides, the rerelease idea (using the same factory mold) isnt something new. MOTU & transformers have done it and people still buy them.
We can all agree to disagree. Bottomline is opinions will differ depending on which camp are u in. Anyway that will not bother Mattel as long as golden goose continues to lay its golden eggs for them.
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Post by Fighter Hayabusa on Jun 16, 2016 21:06:43 GMT -5
Here's what I don't understand. People who love rereleases love em because they don't have those figures. But why didn't they buy them the first time around? Most of these figures could have been found easily with a little bit of hunting or online at RSC by paying a little more. Why cater to the customer who couldve already purchased this figure and passed but now having regrets? Not everyone was a day 1 collector. I didn't start until the end of 2013. I missed out on four years worth of figures at retail until I decided to start collecting. I get that but people collecting Legends/Flashbacks are lifelong wrestling fans. None of the Legends were hard to find. Not a single one. Not even L6 Warrior. Whether you were collecting at the time or not, if you were a wrestling fan and visited the toy section of any Walmart, TRU, target, big lots, etc you would've noticed these figures and passed. People want what they can't have. That is why these figures are desired. Once they hit the shelves again, we'll see how many people pass on them again.
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Post by ellisd on Jun 16, 2016 21:22:57 GMT -5
Its a bit of a let down as far as when it comes to seeing the line up or prototypes. Because is like "Oh, I've already seen all of these". But other than that I don't mind it as long as they stick to stuff that sells. I can understand wanting to rerelease the Warrior, HBK, and Taker thats in Elite 45, as those all go for a lot on the secondary market. This gives collectors a second chance without paying so much and Mattel gets to make some money out of it. Be happy Mattel isn't charging secondary market prices for these rereleases.
I can completely understand being upset if you've spent a lot of money on these figures on ebay or somewhere else. That does suck, but you didn't know they were getting rereleased. But if you hadn't done that and you found out Mattel was rereleasing it you would be excited.
Maybe Mattel should have held out until Elite 50 and considered this an 'anniversary set' or 'best of', 'most wanted' , or something else along those lines.
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Post by elrey82 on Jun 16, 2016 21:57:09 GMT -5
The elite legends re-releases is obviously for those people who missed out. They are still getting the flashbacks made as usual. I honestly think this is cool by them. I personally already have 3 of the 4 figures. If it was the exclusives then yea but to me its not a problem. As long as it dont affect the regular flashbacks. Plus it will be a different packaging so Ill deff get it to keep MOC. ☺
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2016 23:19:41 GMT -5
So wait, the Jericho one isn't a re-release of the Elite 20 one of him? It's a brand new figure? And if so, which era Jericho is it? Anyone know? No Koko in E44 it is true. I'm as disappointed as you as I wanted a Mattel Koko and Frankie. The Elite Legends line is not a relaunch of the Legends line. Undertaker, Michaels, Ultimate Warrior and Kamala are reissues in new packaging (Elite Flashback). Jericho is a new deco and Magnum is new, sorta.. Elite line will continue to have Flashbacks in it. Good ones in my opinion.
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Post by Mark Martin on Jun 16, 2016 23:28:02 GMT -5
YAY
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Post by czw4life on Jun 17, 2016 0:33:50 GMT -5
Give me an elite 12 Kane and ill be happy
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Post by PJ on Jun 17, 2016 1:45:41 GMT -5
Not everyone was a day 1 collector. I didn't start until the end of 2013. I missed out on four years worth of figures at retail until I decided to start collecting. I get that but people collecting Legends/Flashbacks are lifelong wrestling fans. None of the Legends were hard to find. Not a single one. Not even L6 Warrior. Whether you were collecting at the time or not, if you were a wrestling fan and visited the toy section of any Walmart, TRU, target, big lots, etc you would've noticed these figures and passed. People want what they can't have. That is why these figures are desired. Once they hit the shelves again, we'll see how many people pass on them again. Or maybe they were lifelong wrestling fans who didn't collect toys or go into toy stores/toy aisles back then...but now have children and just discovered the WWE lines. Or they were just kids whose parents wouldn't buy them figure back then who now have a job and can buy them themselves. There are plenty of reasons why someone might not have known or collected figures until just recently.
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Post by crush on Jun 17, 2016 2:02:59 GMT -5
As I've said in other threads, I would prefer repaints but I also think the reaction to them from some people is crazy. I can't wrap my head around the idea that this can be seen as a slap in the face to longtime collectors. It reeks of self-entitlement to me, as if saying that anyone who wasn't collecting when a given figure was available doesn't deserve to have it.
As far as figure values, honestly I don't care about that in the least. As far as I'm concerned, the secondary market needs to be taken down a few pegs. Plus considering these figures are going to be in som sort of new-style packing, the Moc versions of the older figures probably won't go down at all. Hell, they'll probably spike since those will basically become first editions of the figures.
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Post by Sean on Jun 17, 2016 2:09:35 GMT -5
I hope they rerelease miss Elizabeth
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Post by crush on Jun 17, 2016 2:12:22 GMT -5
I hate it. I like to know that some figures of mine have gone up in value. While I don't collect for value and honestly can't remember the last time I even sold a figure for a large profit, it just bothers me. I missed out on a NWO macho man but I don't want it released again. If I want it I will have to suck it up and pay on secondary market. I missed Hall too and just spend 45 on one before the price jumps. It's the nature of the hobby. What's the fun in collecting if they make sure every single person has it? I think this argument would has a lot more credence iwhen they're collector pieces that were sold in limited numbers, hence why I hate the SDCC Taker rerelease and never want to see any of the RSC or other exclusives like the Hall and Savage you mentioned in this type of line. However, as many on this board are quick to point out whenever the word "rare" is uttered, a vast majority of Mattel's line is made up of mass-produced toys that make no promise of any kind of limited avaialbility. I don't see any problem with a rerelease of say E19 Shawn Michaels from a standpoint of "offending" collectors who've urchased it previously. Especially since it's being released as a one-off sub-line that's not "taking" an spots in the main lines.
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Post by slamtyro on Jun 17, 2016 3:34:17 GMT -5
I suppose a "good" way of introducing these reissue figures is to have an original attire and a repaint attire of each figure being released at the same time. Not a really difficult task to meet in my opinion (same mold, different paint colours). That way, 2nd time buyers can decide if they want a new colour while 1st time buyers can have the option to buy either or both versions. All can be merry. Lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 3:59:06 GMT -5
I suppose a "good" way of introducing these reissue figures is to have an original attire and a repaint attire of each figure being released at the same time. Not a really difficult task to meet in my opinion (same mold, different paint colours). That way, 2nd time buyers can decide if they want a new colour while 1st time buyers can have the option to buy either or both versions. All can be merry. Lol. The difficult part would be trying to move two of the same figure essentially. Repaints arent needed all the time. Alot of you complaining seem to not realize that theres other collectors in the world besides yourselves.
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Post by slamtyro on Jun 17, 2016 5:17:41 GMT -5
I suppose a "good" way of introducing these reissue figures is to have an original attire and a repaint attire of each figure being released at the same time. Not a really difficult task to meet in my opinion (same mold, different paint colours). That way, 2nd time buyers can decide if they want a new colour while 1st time buyers can have the option to buy either or both versions. All can be merry. Lol. Alot of you complaining seem to not realize that theres other collectors in the world besides yourselves. Yup. That was exactly my point way earlier.
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Post by Old School Collector on Jun 17, 2016 5:32:35 GMT -5
Personally, I think it's a cheap move to rerelease EXACTLY what they've put out years ago ... I don't care about the value, but if youve collected this line since the beginning, it's pretty much a slap in the face.
I do, think that its funny that all of the scalpers that try and corner the market are irate that their gems are drastically falling in price lol
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Post by bdzman26 on Jun 17, 2016 5:52:39 GMT -5
Totally support it 100%. As someone who buys and opens them and as a marketing strategy, it's great. I think percentage of people against it is a small portion, and even a smaller portion of that percentage that would stop buying all together if Mattel keeps with the strategy. Maybe the only figures that should be protected are the RSCE. Those might warrant a re-paint.
Elite 15 Yokozuna and Elite 14 Booker T were an easy $100 bucks 2nd hand. Re-release them in the HOF series and now people that missed them can get them for $20, Mattel see's that profit, MOC collectors still have the original boxing to make it a collectors item. It's a win-win. Only reason I get mad when I see a re-release is because that is a spot that we could have filled with a new figure.
I got a pretty good feeling that this wont stop anyone from buying a figure they want. I cant see myself passing up on a figure in a store thinking, "Well its just going to be re-released so why bother".
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Post by maineventheel on Jun 17, 2016 6:31:29 GMT -5
I'm excited for the rereleases. I really wanted warrior but didn't want to pay 80 bucks for him.
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Post by The American Daydream on Jun 17, 2016 6:59:24 GMT -5
I love re-releases. I have no respect for people who sell old figures for upwards of quadruple the price of the original figures retail price. The worse for them, the better for me
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